Experiences - Meth isn't that bad - nor addictive

[Amphetarize]

SWIM is always reading about how super addictive and destructive meth is, but SWIM's really not seeing it personally.

SWIM's smoked meth a few times now and enjoys it immensely. SWIM feels very calm, loses all his anxiety, and becomes very social and energetic.

SWIM doesn't even mind the comedown, SWIM says it feels like a body stone and as long as there is no work needed to be done that day, it's fine.

As for addiction, SWIM only gets cravings during the comedown. He just ignores them or smokes some weed to chill. Once the drug has worn off he feels completely back to normal.

SWIM has a hard rule of never taking it more than once a month.

So how do you get addicted to it? Smoking it weekly? Daily? What does addiction feel like? Is it physical? Mental? SWIM really wants to know the feeling so he can detect the start of an addiction if it happens.

Thanks!

[TommyRowe]

SWIM doesnt feel its that addictive either. SWIM has been smoking it for about a year now. SWIM can count the number of times he has smoked. SWIM has gone on a couple binges, but has quite for several months afterwards.

SWIM admits the hardest part is the comedown. You want it really bad but as you said, smoking weed helps. It also kinda sucks during the actual smoking of it because you always want to take another hit. It sucks to have just a hit and then nothing else. SWIM would rather have none at all...

SWIM is able to stop it though once the baggie is gone and avoid it for a long time.

[tweakette]

Meth isnt physically addicting. But swim would consider herself addicted. She can stop for weeks, and even months, but always will do it. Life is so much more exciting with it. it becomes addictive when you do a long binge, then you need to go to work or school at the end of that binge, and need it just to stay awake and function. Swim sleeps for days straight when she is sober. Swim can barely get up unless she has a little bit there.

[yaba]

Swim was on yaba for two years and on lost end he everything....
Meth can be dangerous...

[Pope Albacore]

SWIM is pretty sure that there is a slew of documentation SWIY can find using Google about meth's addictive qualities. It is addictive and can be very destructive. Although, this can be said of most mind-altering chemicals(not all are addictive).

Basically, moderation is the key to any substance. Through education on these substances and extreme moderation and safety one can enjoy them with a substantial amount of harm reduction. Please be safe and don't speak without knowledge on potentially harmful chemicals.

-Pope Albacore

[TommyRowe]

Studies show Meth is addictive. But how the individual reacts to it varies amonst each individual.

I know people who cant go a day without it. They spend all their time getting money, working hard, finding shit only to go spend it on a fix. SWIM can only do it for a max of three days. Infact SWIM is on day two of a binge now and hasnt even smoked in about 5 hours with half a gram left in the bag.

SWIM was severely addicted to cocaine. However, SWIM has never been addicted to Meth like Coke. Coke is a lot more evil.

[PsychoActivist]

In reference to the part about not minding the comedown - Wait till you do it a few more times and binge with it for 3 or 4 days straight then comedown. I don't know SWIY may be fortunate and not experience bad comedowns I suppose but everytime SWIM came down from a few days use, he always wanted to try to catch a bullet with the back of his throat.

As I said SWIY may be fortunate enough to not have to experience comedowns like that , and for his sake I hope he never has to.

[ghost94]

this is the thing about meth that makes me never do it. everbody is differnt and all this bad stuff doesnt happen to everbody but most people. meth is so good and addictive because it releases soooo much dopamine. you get addicted and then your brain shuts down its pleasure center and you can never have pleasure ever again if you can even get out of the addiction.


just do adderall, like me.

[Coconut]

Originally Posted by ghost94

just do adderall, like me.

You don't abuse Adderall. Nobody here takes illegal drugs or abuses prescription medicines.

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Upholding the rules, catching non-swimmers.

[SmokingBowls420]

Swim doesn't see how someone could get hooked on heroin yet alot of people are addicted to it....Swim figures once swiy starts smoking more than .2 - .3 every other week, it's going to become a problem...once a month shouldn't do any harm if it stays that way....Although it rarely ever does

[ghost94]

Originally Posted by Coconut

You don't abuse Adderall. Nobody here takes illegal drugs or abuses prescription medicines.

exactly. except for people named swim. they're screwed.

[cra$h]

the addiction slips up on you. For swim, it was with (as pathetic as it sounds...) benedrex inhalers, with psuedoamphetamine, or some with levamfetamine, and one other swim can't recall. He'd just steal it. a free rush? Fuck, every day why not? This didn't last long, but for a little while he needed speed to accomplish, just because it's easier, and done better. Amphetamines make life easier, and that's why it's addictive.

[FrenchFries]

Original poster has obviously never done real Ice made in a Mexican super lab.

Pure methamphetamine is highly addictive, and you would be a fool or ignorant to believe other wise.

[SmokingBowls420]

Originally Posted by FrenchFries

Original poster has obviously never done real Ice made in a Mexican super lab.

Pure methamphetamine is highly addictive, and you would be a fool or ignorant to believe other wise.

Even if the shit is cut down to 30% its still addictive. Swim only got the mexi lab shit and it was only 50% pure....that was the worst nightmare swim ever experienced, swim was completely lost.

[Amphetarize]

Swim didn't mean to say it isn't addictive at all, it's just that after all the hype about how bad meth is, after trying it, it isn't near as bad as Swim initially thought. Swim does crave during comedown, that is true. Swim has never binged before and isn't sure if he wants to (terrible comedown? increased addiction?), Swim usually only buys enough to last one session. Sidenote: Swim suspects a big part of the negative feelings is the sleep deprivation, when the high wears off and the body realizes it hasn't slept and you get that lethargy, etc. Swim can imagine that feeling terrible after a 3+ day binge.

[SmokingBowls420]

Originally Posted by Amphetarize

Swim didn't mean to say it isn't addictive at all, it's just that after all the hype about how bad meth is, after trying it, it isn't near as bad as Swim initially thought. Swim does crave during comedown, that is true. Swim has never binged before and isn't sure if he wants to (terrible comedown? increased addiction?), Swim usually only buys enough to last one session. Sidenote: Swim suspects a big part of the negative feelings is the sleep deprivation, when the high wears off and the body realizes it hasn't slept and you get that lethargy, etc. Swim can imagine that feeling terrible after a 3+ day binge.

It's a little more than just being tired...It's being confused, angry, paranoid, the voices, visual hallucinations, and a completle lack of hope.....Swims first sesh was by himself and it was nothing, swim loved it and liked the effects ALOT....However, swim didn't get hooked till his 2nd or 3rd 3day binger. Once swiy begins binging, all bets are off.

[Donmeka]

SWIM has never believed in the one try equals addiction theory but today SWIM saw something interesting.

SWIM got his hands on some capital Amazing crystal(friend says it was pure/close to. Regardless of its purity SWIM and 2 friends who have never tried meth at all smoked a couple hits using the foil method since a pipe was not available(it worked well enough)

SWIM and his friends felt great but the interesting aspect of this was the effect this new chemical experience had on 2 SWIMmers who have never jumped into the crystal ocean. One of them like SWIM was satisfied and SWIM told them the rest shall be saved for tomorrow or another day but the other wanted to do more when SWIM had to leave and through the day SWIM received 5-8 text messages on his cellular phone asking to do more!

SWIMs friends loved their 1st experience but its amazing how one friend of SWIMs was cool and went along his day/night and the other kept trying to reach SWIM to do more. SWIM hasn't even done more and it has been 9hrs. SWIM is lucky to have xanax RXed and the fact that he has only done meth 5 times in a span of 2 years and the longest SWIM stayed awake was 1 night.


NOTE: SWIM does have ADD

[Aminator]

"once a month shouldn't do any harm if it stays that way....Although it rarely ever does"

That's exactly the problem. "It creeps up on you" until it's too late. Someday you either have lots of work to do and use it for a few days in a row to get it all done, or your long time GF splits up and you think "fuck it" and go on your first binge, or ...

Something always happens that makes you drop your tight schedule, it's Murphy's law. And yes, every Junkie in the world thought it would not happen to him/her, because *they* would watch their intake and be smarter than the rest. But once you know how to feel good even on a bad day, it's unlikely you won't rely on it on a REALLY bad day.

If that "once every x weeks" worked, the world would be full of occasional heroin, crack + meth users that all still had their job, house, car and driver's license.
And a lot of people I knew would still be alive, half of the girls were hardly 20 years.

Go figure!

[e4rolls]

Originally Posted by Amphetarize

So how do you get addicted to it? Smoking it weekly? Daily? What does addiction feel like? Is it physical? Mental? SWIM really wants to know the feeling so he can detect the start of an addiction if it happens.

Thanks!

If SWIY would just try meth daily for research purposes, I'm sure SWIY would eventually (6 months to 2 years) have the pleasure of sucking a dick for meth! Just joking!

[SmokeRings]

SWIM supposes that Aminator lumps me in the catagory of

"And yes, every Junkie in the world thought it would not happen to him/her, because *they* would watch their intake and be smarter than the rest."

Because SWIM firmly believes that meth is a mind over matter type situation. Everyone talks about how awful the comedown is, but the main problem with most people is the don't counter it w/downers, they lay in bed, tweaking the fuck out and obsessing on whether or not to just say "fuck it" and get more.

SWIM does believe in addiction and for certain (most really) people, they can't seem to control it and end up "sucking dick for meth" as E4rolls so eloquently put it! lol

SWIM doesn't believe that she isn't invincible, that she very well could be fooling herself into believing she can just be a casual user. SWIM just doesn't let the voices take over, doesn't let the guilt wash over her like a big blanket while coming down. SWIM focuses on positive things, and it makes a HUGE difference. Also proper hydration and hygene is SUPER important. The cleaner you are, the less horrified you will be when looking into the mirror for the first time after you've finally fallen asleep!

SWIM personally has never understood the "picking" thing that a lot of meth users have, so disgusting, I guess I'm a snob, because those kinds of people I want as far away from me as possible. Hardcore users look like they came out of a zombie movie, SWIM is dead set on not becoming one of them.
She's got some serious will power, and also having limited access to it (her friend gets it for her, she doesn't have a straight connect) helps tremendously. She doesn't want to try to skip the middle man at all, the harder it is to get, the less frequent she uses.

SWIM is in a city of over 2 million and is sure if she REALLY started turning into Zombie Meth Head, that she could find it, she actually lives in a very largely Mexican population neighborhood, she KNOWS she could probably get it in a matter of minutes, but would never risk that. No drug to SWIM is worth that risk.


Oh, and SWIM is addicted to masturbation, because she is without a partner, and doesn't know of anyone who smokes it, and she wants to spend an entire weekend holed up smoking and fucking, smoking and fucking. Ok, gotta sign off now, I'm only aggitating myself thinking about my piss-poor non-existant sex life! hahaha Thank god for sex toys! lololol

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I relate with what swiy said, very much actually

[SmokingBowls420]

Swim would think that swiy has probobly gotten red phosphorus meth, since it's not that great in swims opinion (a 0.3 bowl keeps him spun for about an hour and then an hour after that he's just way quiet and reserved)........Swim quit meth for almost a year, smoked some red phosphorus meth and just felt "eh, swims over this drug, it's nothing like it used to be"........until swim had nice fluffy lithium/ammonioa meth (swiy can tell because when the crystal is crushed into powder it's fluffy)....That made him fiend like MAD for more, but swim knows better to say no to the cravings and keep his use under strict control.

Swim definitly notices a big difference in addictiveness/enjoyment of meth when it comes to differently cooked meths.....0.2 grams of red phos meth smoked keeps swiy spun for around an hour and then just high....0.2 grams of lithium/ammoina meth smoked keeps swiy spun for around 2 hours and the comedown is much more gradual and enjoyable.......Swims foaf told him that the meth he used to get would keep him spun 4-6 hours (swim suspects its hydrophosphoric acid, since hes heard that it's the best dope around)

[dadrone]

As with any drug, addiction depends on the user primarily rather than whatever the drug may be...

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by dadrone

As with any drug, addiction depends on the user primarily rather than whatever the drug may be...

Surely amphetamines can be used without doing much harm, but meth and other types of amphetamines are very psychologically addictive for some people and do produce paranoid ideation and other problems associated with sleep loss and lack of eating, when used to excess, which is interfer with daily life. Heavy use also produces changes in the user's character which are not for the better. SWIM did love amphetamines for a period of his life but would no longer consider taking any.

[dadrone]

Originally Posted by enquirewithin

Surely amphetamines can be used without doing much harm, but meth and other types of amphetamines are very psychologically addictive for some people and do produce paranoid ideation and other problems associated with sleep loss and lack of eating, when used to excess, which is interfer with daily life. Heavy use also produces changes in the user's character which are not for the better. SWIM did love amphetamines for a period of his life but would no longer consider taking any.

SWIM did methamphetamine pretty consistently over the course of a year. SWIM knew it was bad shit so he always took it with the mentality that he had to stay in control.

What's odd to SWIM is that... he arguably has an alcohol problem and used to smoke a ridiculous amount of MJ for about 10 years straight. But... with the white drugs, meth and coke, he never really got wrapped around them even though they are supposedly the most addictive ever.

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by dadrone

SWIM did methamphetamine pretty consistently over the course of a year. SWIM knew it was bad shit so he always took it with the mentality that he had to stay in control.

What's odd to SWIM is that... he arguably has an alcohol problem and used to smoke a ridiculous amount of MJ for about 10 years straight. But... with the white drugs, meth and coke, he never really got wrapped around them even though they are supposedly the most addictive ever.

With MJ people know that they can keep on taking it without too much harm but the others...

It's my theory that some people have an affinity for certain drugs. Many people take heroin, the most infamously addictive drug (SWIM included) and don't especially like it, and don't get hooked. Others instantly love it. Some become addicted to amphetamines, many don't.