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Old 04-01-2009, 06:42
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Hi all, this is my first one...

Let's say SWIM has Ambien and Ritalin available and maybe some alcohol.

Any chance of getting high or similar
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Old 04-01-2009, 07:17
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

Absolutely do not mix ambien and alcohol. This combination, even ritalin+alcohol to a degree, is dangerous and the unlucky user is quite likely to do something stupid and uncharacteristic of him/herself.

SWiM, unfortunately, has experience with similar combos, and while he is still alive, he does not remember much of them and was told by friends that he was slightly delusional (wanted to drive - fortunately, his friends didn't let him) and didn't make sense for much of the time. He's lost an entire day's memory from a similar combination. I say similar, because he was too fucked up to even remember what exactly he took, only that there were stimulants, benzos and alcohol involved.

Alcohol and ritalin can be pleasurable (actually, really fucking euphoric), but its important to keep the doses low and not let yourself think you can get away from drinking more than you would ordinarily. In fact, to prevent adverse reactions, it would be most prudent to start quite low with the alcohol - definitely don't take shots and wait for a while between drinks.

But dear fucking lord, do not mix ambien and alcohol or ritalin and ambien. These are the kinds of combinations from which the best thing that can come is total amnesia of the event, or, in the case of ambien and ritalin, cause psychotic breaks.

Do not do this.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:24
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

Swimmy Oded when he took ambien and alcohol together and swimmy is prescribed on heavy dosages of ritalin per day, swimmy got all messed up in the head after eating 10 ambiens because swimmy got the idea to drink a entire bottle of vodka and added some valium to the mix..

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Absolutely do not mix ambien and alcohol. This combination, even ritalin+alcohol to a degree, is dangerous and the unlucky user is quite likely to do something stupid and uncharacteristic of him/herself.

SWiM, unfortunately, has experience with similar combos, and while he is still alive, he does not remember much of them and was told by friends that he was slightly delusional (wanted to drive - fortunately, his friends didn't let him) and didn't make sense for much of the time. He's lost an entire day's memory from a similar combination. I say similar, because he was too fucked up to even remember what exactly he took, only that there were stimulants, benzos and alcohol involved.

Alcohol and ritalin can be pleasurable (actually, really fucking euphoric), but its important to keep the doses low and not let yourself think you can get away from drinking more than you would ordinarily. In fact, to prevent adverse reactions, it would be most prudent to start quite low with the alcohol - definitely don't take shots and wait for a while between drinks.

But dear fucking lord, do not mix ambien and alcohol or ritalin and ambien. These are the kinds of combinations from which the best thing that can come is total amnesia of the event, or, in the case of ambien and ritalin, cause psychotic breaks.

Do not do this.
Swimmy had a total amensia from drinking alcohol with ambien and he ended up in hospital because he eat every pill he got his hands on in the blackout

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According to Swimmy you should just eat the ambien and stay the hell away from the alcohol because that can kill you easy, swimmy has said that ambien causes heavy halluincatons and recmonedes eating maby 3-4 pills the first time because poor swimmy gets blackouts if he eats 2 much of ambien

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  '3-4 pills is both a) probably too much, and b), dangerously vague.

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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

It's not a good idea.

SWIM's sister's 21st birthday was one night, and SWIM decided to have a small glass of wine. After dinner, he remembered that he had to get up early the next morning, so he took 12.5mg of Ambien. Within an hour, his vision continued to fade before he blacked out at 8PM. He woke up at 6AM fully clothed lying on his bathroom floor and had forgotten what had happened. Nobody was around him, so for all he knew, he could have been in serious trouble without anybody being there to help him.

Ambien + alcohol do not mix well. SWIM is on Ambien as he types this (and only Ambien), and he's having trouble typing this and remembering what he needs to say. OP, If you want to get high on Ambien, stay awake.
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

'3-4 pills' is vague and unhelpful as long as we don't know how much is in a pill.

Zolpidem comes in 5 and 10 milligram pills. People seem to vary significantly in the intensity of their reaction to the deliriant effects of zopiclone, and expect some amnesia even from low doses. Try starting with 5 and working up. The maximum recommended dosage for medical use is 10 mg, so exceed with caution.

That said, SWiM's tried ambien, and its not really worth it. Hell, I suppose he might have had the trip of his life, but he certainly didn't remember it in the morning.
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

Ambien's turned so weired....right now SWIM is on it and this webpage has turned into his house. lkzjd is in his balcony. How weird.

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Ambien's turned so weired....right now I"m on it and this webpage has turned into my house. lkzjd is in my balcony. How weird.

Please tell my you did not drink Seriously that can kill you easy..
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Please tell my you did not drink Seriously that can kill you easy..
No SWIM didn't drink any alchol....SWIM is just on Ambien right now, and SWIM is able to tell all of SWIY his weird experiences. SWIM is still conscious, awake, and aware, but the Professor from Gilligan's island is pushing his deskchair right now and when he looks at this website, it reminds him a lot of what his house looks like. Both of them are blue, and both of them are tall, and both of them have many balconies. All SWIYs posts are in a balcony of one of SWIM's sisters.

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See this is the fun part about ambien. SWIM can stay conscious, but reality morphs-- Mary Poppins is pushing his compter away, and these textboxes on this screen look like glass boxes with liquid coming in and out of them. None of this comes from alcohol at all. If SWIM moves ten feet and walks to his mattress, SWIM will be sleeping like a baby, but if SWIM continues to stay up, SWIM may continute to get even crazier hallucinations.

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Old 04-01-2009, 09:54
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No I didn't drink any alchol....I"m just on Ambien right now, and I'm able to tell all of you my weird experiences. I am still conscious, awake, and aware, but the Professor from Gilligan's island is pushing my deskchair right now and when I look at this website, it reminds me a lot of what my house looks like. Both of them are blue, and both of them are tall, and both of them have many balconies. All your posts in a balcony of one of my sisters.
Dont eat more ambien it can make swimmy do all sorts of crazy things he would not even thing about when not using ambien

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No I didn't drink any alchol....I"m just on Ambien right now, and I'm able to tell all of you my weird experiences. I am still conscious, awake, and aware, but the Professor from Gilligan's island is pushing my deskchair right now and when I look at this website, it reminds me a lot of what my house looks like. Both of them are blue, and both of them are tall, and both of them have many balconies. All your posts are in a balcony of one of my sisters.

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See this is the fun part about ambien. I can stay conscious, but reality morphs-- Mary Poppins is pushing my compter away, and these textboxes on this screen look like glass boxes with liquid coming in and out of them. None of this comes from alcohol at all. If I move ten feet and walk to my mattress, I will be sleeping like a baby, but if I continue to stay up, I may continute to get even crazier hallucinations.
Yeah you might, when swimmy used this stuff it turned a plastic bag into a moving head and he saw a spider that was bigger then a cat coming trough a sink

Swimmy remebers how oddly the icons looked on his dekstop they were like bricks in 3d, the text started to bend and letters jumped...

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According to Swimmy it was 10mg
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Cathay - Interesting descriptions, but please SWiM. Edit your posts if possible.
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Cathay - Interesting descriptions, but please SWiM. Edit your posts if possible.
This is a strange world SWIM is typing in. Since SWIM is on Ambien right now, SWIM can go from freeling completely normal like right now to thinking my keystrokes are moving towards a french silk pie-- who knows.

Oh, and since this is a discussion, what would Ambien + Provigil do? SWIM's thought is that the Provigil will fight off the sleepiness of Ambien so that more wild daydreams can continues while SWIM is awake. Epocrates says that the two pills don't interact. Should SWIM try the two together sometime?

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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

Heh...Zolpidem is one hell of a weird drug, isn't it? Swim has only ever taken them for their intended use, but when possible, he tries to stay awake as long as he possibly can, so that he may enjoy the hallucinogenic effects of this powerful hypnotic before it puts him flat on his back for the whole of the evening.

Prescription sleep aids are incredibly powerful, and can be very dangerous substances, especially if their synergic effects are explored. To swim, the potency of the drugs alone is enough...no need to go risking swiy's life tying to get more of an effect out of them.

Regarding Provigil - no, the drugs themselves may not interract, and I don't see any warnings about mixing with sleep aids but to Swim, the idea of mixing a hypnotic with a stimulant just doesn't jive as a good plan. Why should they put warnings about mixing the two out there, anyway? Afterall, if someone were taking both for their intended purposes, they'd never take the two together, right?
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Swim done the alcohol and zolpidem (ambien) thing....
He took 60mg of zolpidem and a few drinks think it was 2-4cans of stella. It was intresting.... Strange hallucinations, memory loss and woke up on a cold living room floor.. Plus he wasn't sure if a made phone calls to people or not..

His best friend took lots of alcohol and something like 50-60mg of zolpidem.
He was looking for swim (his best friend) as there was a party going on with aliens he thought, and he phoned swim later and thanked him for the zolpidem's. In a indiscreet way witch he normally wouldn't do !

He (swims friend) couldn't remember much of it he only remembers very little..
His wife told him and swim that he was in bed but thought there was a party with swim and alains...

Swim never done Ritalin, but mixing ambien (zolpidem) and alcohol can be dangerous and think its better avoided !! Or at least lock all doors, don't cook food, or do any other skilled performance. A sitter would be a good idea and no matter what, don't leaver the house !!!!
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Yikes-- those were some weird posts SWIM made last night while on Ambien.
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

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Yikes-- those were some weird posts SWIM made last night while on Ambien.
I don't see SWIM in those posts. But I'm sure you don't do drugs, SWIY must've just stole you're password.


Ambien sounds like a pretty bad combo with alcohol, and mixing stimulants into the equation only makes it worse. However according to SWIM, methylphenidate and Alcohol is incredibly euphoric. It's worse than alcohol or methylphenidate alone, but it won't cause blackouts, and should be fine with infrequent use.

Black outs aren't fun, and can be dangerous when there are more drugs around when SWIY can't think straight anymore. The last time SWIM took alprazolam, he woke up face down in broken glass with no memory of the previous night.
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

You do have editing capabilities cathay, it would be a good idea to go back and fix the posts.

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you do have the power to edit your posts cathay. It would be a good idea to go back and remove incrimination.

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Oh haha it didn't hit me until now why all of SWIYs were telling SWIM to edit my posts.

Will do...
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

Swim takes Ritalin and Ambien with prescription. Actually, nowadays Ambien is no longer working - it seems useless, so it's only Ritalin.

Not being a party-pooper or advocating drugs, but Ambien is quite safe. It's short-action, has a short half-life... Ok, Swim says: don't do that. But Swim also knows this "don't-mix-alcohol-with-a-CNS-depressant" is common-sense. People should know that, but people should also know they should avoid recreational drugs, right? Just a matter of perspective.

For Swim, alcohol+ritalin is worse than alcohol+ambien. The last combination would make her sleep, while the first one would make her puke - make because the "appetite suppressant" feeling Ritalin gives.
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Re: Mixing Ambien and Ritalin and maybe alcohol

What about similar sleeping pills like lunest/zopiclone mixed with ritalin, but no alcohol??? Is this dangerous?
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