Effects - Super Strain HBWR Seeds!

[fractalhaze]

Has anyone else tried the Super Strain woodrose available from one source? I have and they are 3-4 times better than even the best HBWR I have had in over 10 years of trying different batches. They seem to be about 10 times as potent by weight compared to your average shrooms.
Even just one seed can work some pleasant magic.

[Alfa]

There are various strains of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, but none of them are named as 'super strain' That's all hype and advertisement of the source. Nothing more. Hawaiian Baby Woodrose has nothing to do with any species of Shrooms. Comparing potency makes no sense.

There are species of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose that are richer in alkaloids than others. Most stronger species come from Madagascar or Hawaii.

[fractalhaze]

My thread was not started in roder to ask if the Super Strain was truly in existence, it indeed does exist. I was simply asking if others could sahre their experiences with it, as I am certain they will find everything claimed about it to be true.
Actually, in contrast to what Alfa said, there is only one specie of active HBWR - Argyreia nervosa var. nervosa.
And like he said there are different strains within this, yes there is one called Super Strain, it was named as such by the supplier but not for hype - what they did is take a known strain from the late 1990's which produces 300-400% more LSA than the next best seed found (also an Argyreia nervosa var, nervosa) and keep that strain going on Hawaii for over 10 years. The strain is aBOUT 10 times the avg potency of shrooms by weight, and this is a fact, it is not saying the effect of LSA and mushrooms is identical, it is a comparison of relative potencies, like saying a trip is a "+3 level" regardless of what caused the trip.
The supplier of these seeds is not a fly-by-night or shady ethnobotanical vendor like the majority, but has been working at a major US university and working with other universities all over the world for 12 years to futher the study of ethnobotanicals. They are not a profit-seeking business, and despite reportedly small profits continue to operate as a labor of love. I do know one thing, they never claim anything about their products that cannot be verified by simply trying the product.

[Alfa]

Fractalhaze; trough your few postings on here, you have made it very clear that you are only promoting your own wares.

Comparing Hawaiian baby woodrose with magic mushrooms does not make any sense. They do not give the same effect. Nor is Magic mushrooms one specific drug. You might as well claim that they are 10 times the strength of plants.
Saying they are comparable is hyping up your products in order to increase your sales and surely sounds shady to me.

I have never seen a 'Super Strain' listed as an official strain of Argyreia nervosa var. nervosa. Please backup your claim with proof.

Please avoid further discussion of this source, as it falls under the source discussion rule.

[fractalhaze]

I guess this is for Alfa because no one else will read this thread anyway.

I thought this forum might be ok, and wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt even though I could barely find a single interesting post here and many members seem low on the knowledge scale, to put it gently.

Believe me, if I was a seller of entheogens (which I am not) I would go to a forum that is actually friendly to vendors posting and "promote wares" there, not this forum. I'm sure Alfa would not allow the mention of the names of any other forums either!

You will note that the vendor in question (who Alfa confused me with) does not have a presence on any forums promoting their wares, unlike many other vendors who do do so, so if I was them, why would I begin such promotion by going to the one forum least friendly to such promotion?!

What I was seeking is a legitimate discussion of a product I have ordered from a company I have been happy with, without naming the company in any way. I could care less if the company got a sale from this thread, which surely they wouldn't because at this forum , no one is allowed to name sources, unless they are a most holy "gold member."

It is obvious through his postings that Alfa the moderator rules this little forum with an iron fist and does not allow legitimate discussions of entheogens even when sources are not named.

Let this forum wallow in newbie questions and misinformation, have fun!

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No proof given when asked for, only made attcaks on members, and staff.

[Coconut]

Originally Posted by fractalhaze

Let this forum wallow in newbie questions and misinformation, have fun!

Originally Posted by fractalhaze

I have and they are 3-4 times better than even the best HBWR I have had in over 10 years of trying different batches. They seem to be about 10 times as potent by weight compared to your average shrooms.

Er... lol?

[Anonabyss]

Originally Posted by Coconut

Er... lol?

He was saying that they are 3-4 times as strong as other seeds, and 10 times a strong as mushrooms. Of course, comparing doses of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds to those of "mushrooms" is completely arbitrary and meaningless, but that is what he meant.

Anonabyss added 1 Minutes and 25 Seconds later...

Oh wait, I'm stupid--nevermind any of my comments that don't seem to make sense. Yeah, you understood it you were just commenting on the same thing I was; for some reason I interpreted your statement as suggesting that he was contradicting himself.

[Enfintity]

i know the vendor/strain you're talking about.
theyre really expensive,
seems like a reputable company from all i've read.
no personal experience, though..sorry.

[BA]

Originally Posted by fractalhaze

I guess this is for Alfa because no one else will read this thread anyway.

I thought this forum might be ok, and wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt even though I could barely find a single interesting post here and many members seem low on the knowledge scale, to put it gently.

It is obvious through his postings that Alfa the moderator rules this little forum with an iron fist and does not allow legitimate discussions of entheogens even when sources are not named.

Let this forum wallow in newbie questions and misinformation, have fun!

When he could not supply the proof that Alfa asked for, he went on the attack.

Something done when no proof can be supplied.

[Alfa]

Most of your postings here are related to the products of a specific vendor. Your other posts give out specific information about sales and motives of vendors. Members have been reporting your posts accordingly.

Now if you want exposure for your products, then that is easily possible here without hyping or promoting them, but it seems you are not used to this site yet. Let me know if you want to take a fresh start and go about this in another way.

I do think that pursuing your current course will not last long here.

[informer_]

Swim just found the vendor of the super strain they are alot more expensive but it says there 3 times more potent then average hbws, So swim is going to buy some and will give a trip report once swim has tried them.

[Skygooose]

When you say 3 times as potent does that mean that if I take 3 of the "Super Strain" seeds that it will be like taking 9 top quality HBWRS? Do they also have 3 times the stomach pains? Or did the Super scientist behind the Super Strain eliminate that?