Effects - Feeling Cold after heavy ritalin useage

[Rottenfruit]

Well my fictional Charachter Swimmy in my epic novel has latly been snorting alot of ritalin and more often then not it makes him cold very cold....?

WHy is that?WHy does my poor ficntoal charachter get cold from sniffing ritalin and even meth!

[Laszlo1]

swim has occasionally snorted Adderall in doses of 30-60mgs. Occasionally he'll get a cold sort of electrical feeling and maybe cold sweats, these usually happen around the peak of the experience and minorly on the come up.

Doesn't really seem terribly alarming to swim. Coldness or numbness in the hands and feet could be bad, pointing to circulation problems, but feeling a little cold isn't alarming to him. Just wait til the come down, that'll show you some serious cold =]

[chillinwill]

Red Rock thinks this is due to the vasoconstriction properties that methylphenidate or any other stimulants cause. He used to get this all the time when he was on Adderall and even sometimes now on Vyvanse. He feels the coldness mainly in his feet and hands

[Boca Bitch]

SWIM experiences very unstable body temperatures, where one second he's freezing and the next, burning up.

[HorseBucket]

Swim gets cold hands and feet on it. He has to sleep with his socks on when he takes it cuz his feet go ice cold when hes lying in bed.

[Opiategoddess]

I can't answer per say, but any time swim does a stimulant, swim generally feels on the cold side, it's swims least fav side affect. Swim never feels cold on opiates, swim most usually feels over heated on opiates. So there is something to stims making people colder. Strange i guess

OppiateGoddess

[Jasim]

Swim experiences hot/cold flashes, cold sweats, and perceptions of temperature changes with chronic use of opiates, ssri's and snri's, and a variety of other substances. Amphetamines can cause one's body to heat up, it's likely that coming off of them can cause a depressed body temperature as a over-compensation.
It is also a possibility that when one's body temperature is higher than normal, one feels colder (as in a fever).

Swim has also experienced mainly warm/hot feelings when on opiates, or a lack of sensitivity to cold.

[HorseBucket]

Swim is a naturally hot blooded person and has thick blood because it takes him ages to heat up or cool down. On stimulants thats not the case at all though he's just always cold even when he's inside or its a hot day. Its only his hands and feet though. Not cool either his hands go ice cold. You know when someone comes in on a freezing day and grabs your neck as a joke and u get a shock. That kinda cold.

Swim has no idea why this is but as someone mentioned Ritalin is a vasoconstrictent which would be a reasonable explanation. Stimulants speed up the heart rate so swim would imagine that increased heart rate combined with shrunken blood vessels would cause a dangerous rise in blood pressure. Theres no symptoms of high blood pressure so u can be on the verge of death and not know it. Next time swim has to go to the doctor hes gonna get off his face on Ritalin and see what the doctor says when he takes he checks his blood pressure with that inflatable arm band thing.

EDIT: Opiates are a different story altogether. Swim pays no attention at all to the temperature when on opiates so he doesn't staying out all day when its freezing and doesn't mind sitting in those uncomfortably hot rooms. Sometimes he goes to a friends appartment and they're all sitting in this roasting hot room full of smoke with the windows closed and for the first 10 minutes he just wants to get the fuck outta there but once he joins in on the opiate fun he couldn't be happier to be there.

[porchy]

The same thing happens to SWIM, but not with adderal or ritalin (as he has never tried them) but any type of amphetamine. His hands get really cold, and it is very hard to warm them up again. It happened to him the other day, he took a very very small amount of amphetamine (sulphate) and he didnt feel right all day.

[honourableone]

SWIM has never taken ritalin, or especially high doses of amphetamine, but any amount of amphetamine, even the very small (finger scraped along the inside of a bag others would consider empty) doses SWIM takes for non-recreational reasons can sometimes make him feel cold. This can happen any time just after the peak (if such a word is appropriate for such minute doses).

Traditional means of warming up do not seem as effective as usual either, so SWIM can't offer any perfect advice to make the problem go away... SWIM would be interested if someone who experiences this took their actual temperarature throughout the experience, to see how the cold feeling relates to actual temperature.

[Rottenfruit]

Originally Posted by honourableone

SWIM has never taken ritalin, or especially high doses of amphetamine, but any amount of amphetamine, even the very small (finger scraped along the inside of a bag others would consider empty) doses SWIM takes for non-recreational reasons can sometimes make him feel cold. This can happen any time just after the peak (if such a word is appropriate for such minute doses).

Traditional means of warming up do not seem as effective as usual either, so SWIM can't offer any perfect advice to make the problem go away... SWIM would be interested if someone who experiences this took their actual temperarature throughout the experience, to see how the cold feeling relates to actual temperature.

This guy Swimmy said he did do that and it did not seem to have increased or lowered .....

[honourableone]

Originally Posted by Rottenfruit

This guy Swimmy said he did do that and it did not seem to have increased or lowered .....

That's very interesting, it suggest that all of the possible resons thought up for actually being cold are irrelevant, and something else is to blame (an effect on the thalamus?)... Did Swimmy check the temperature of his hands and feet, as these seem to be more relevant to other Swimmers? Swim does notice coldness in his hands and feet, but the most noticeable thing is a peculiar "internal coldness" that is hard to describe.

Originally Posted by HorseBucket

Next time swim has to go to the doctor hes gonna get off his face on Ritalin and see what the doctor says when he takes he checks his blood pressure with that inflatable arm band thing.

This is a very funny idea, and I'm not sure if your joking or not, but surely that would be more trouble than it's worth? You could be sent off for all sort of checks etc, and they may guess the cause of thehigh blood pressure. I don't know where you live though; SWIM lives in England with a National Health Service, and if he tried this he knows a big mess would come out of it. Sorry for going off on one, whether you were joking or not.

[Jasim]

To clarify what Swim posted earlier and to provide some evidence, amphetamines are thermogenic, that is they cause the body to increase the amount of body heat being generated. http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/abstract/02-0805fjev1

Due to the increased temperature of the body relative to the surrounding environment, one may actually 'feel' colder rather than warmer. This is akin to the effect of feeling colder during a fever.
This sensation combined with vasoconstriction is likely to result in a very cold feeling in the extremities (hands and feet).

[Rottenfruit]

Originally Posted by Jasim

To clarify what Swim posted earlier and to provide some evidence, amphetamines are thermogenic, that is they cause the body to increase the amount of body heat being generated.

Due to the increased temperature of the body relative to the surrounding environment, one may actually 'feel' colder rather than warmer. This is akin to the effect of feeling colder during a fever.
This sensation combined with vasoconstriction is likely to result in a very cold feeling in the extremities (hands and feet).

Guess thats right swimmy feels very cold in his hands and lower part of his foot .....

Rottenfruit added 1 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

Should swimmy increase the tempture of his room?

[Jasim]

Originally Posted by Rottenfruit

Guess thats right swimmy feels very cold in his hands and lower part of his foot .....

Rottenfruit added 1 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

Should swimmy increase the tempture of his room?

Well, if swiys body temp is higher than normal, increasing ambient temp could cause swiys body temp to increase to a dangerous point.

If it's a matter of feeling cold in certain body parts (hands and feet), swiy could try to cover those parts (gloves and warm socks?).

If it were swim, swim would probably conduct an experiment where swim would monitor swims body temp periodically during an experience where swim was staying covered in a warm environment. If swim were confident that swims body temp would not reach 101 Farenheit, then swim would feel comfortable doing whatever was necessary to feel more comfortable during such experiences.

Let us know if any swiys try something similar and how it works out.

[HorseBucket]

Yep gloves and socks are the solution. Swim wears socks when he goes to bed and doesn't get ice feet anymore. During the day he doesn't really care its just at night its a problem cuz its hard to go to sleep with ice feet.

[doggy_hat]

SWIM has problems with feeling cold too. Mostly in his hands, not much of a problem with his feet though. It's really difficult to keep his hands warm too. Gloves work, but he plays guitar and drums which aren't easy to play with gloves. He's tried warming up his hands with a space heater, but they just go cold after a few seconds.

Hopefully when it's summer again his hands won't always feel so damn cold.

[herostyle]

I often seem to get cold after heavy Focalin use too. My hands often become very cold, same as above.

[honourableone]

Originally Posted by herostyle

I often seem to get cold after heavy Focalin use too. My hands often become very cold, same as above.

Careful, you just had a little rules slip up...