Health - LSD : any negative effects?

[nrkus]

I am, together with some friends, thinking about trying LSD one of these days, and I would really need some precise information if anyone would be so kind as to help.


I have never taken any kind of drugs, mainly because I don't like the idea of being dependant and I don't want to harm my health in any way. However, I've recently come across some information about LSD, which I have seen described as having none of these effects. No dependancy, no tolerance, no effects on your health, no danger of overdosebut an experience which sounds very interesting and I wouldn't mind having. Now the main drawbacks I have heard about are the possibilityof a bad trip (which shouldn't be a problem if "set and setting" are right) and a danger of developing psychological problems or a flashback symptom called HPPD. But this apparently only happens very rarely, and after the regurlar consumption of large amounts.


Before trying anything, I would like to be sure that this is true and that I don't risk any psychological damage taking a normal dose (which would be about 150 microgramms if I understand that correctly).


If you now anything about LSD, please answer me. Thank you

[jrock0069]

I have used LSD for years and the only "bad" thing I can think of is when the trip is over. I can pretty much guarantee you that it will be one of the best experiences of your life. I have never known anybody who's taken it and not liked it. LSD is by far my drug of choice, it's just so damn hard to find real shit. So, if you can actually get your hand on real cid, then congratulations and have fun.

[transit]

lsd has contributed enormously to my
life. </span>And having said that, I don’t
think that it is for everybody – though other than for air and water there isn’t
much that I would say is for everybody.</span>


I think that you are wise to be careful and
to research and think carefully in making your decision. </span></span>


Much of the experience is about set and
setting, and for me doing a lot of reading and learning in advanced helped me
to benefit much more from my first experience.
</span>There is lots of great reading material on lsd. </span>Have a look at </span>http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml
as a place to begin to dig deeper. </span></span>

[nrkus]

Thanks for your answers. I just have one more question. I've heard hat hallucigenic mushrooms have exactly the same effect as LSD, but that they are much easier to find. Is that true? I mean in that case, why produce syntethic drugs if the natural stuff is the same? And why go through all the troble to find LSD?

[nrkus]

Oh and also, apparently mushrooms can't cause any kind of "flashback" (or HPPD)

[Hyperreal]

People always state that everyone reacts differently to any given drug, thenforget this claim and go on to argue about the comparative effects of drugs. Some people find mushrooms to have almost exactly the same effect as acid, I, for one, find them to be very different in character. The feeling-tone of a mushroom trip is a lot fuzzier and more alien than with LSD. LSD provides me with a mental stimulation which mushrooms do not, and both the visuals and the abstract thought-patterns are finer, more detailedand more lucid with LSD than with 'shrooms. That's just me, though...


Everything you've said so far about LSD is accurate. You're definitely ready for it.

[jrock0069]

LSD lasts a lot longer than shrooms and a few reasons why people synthesize LSD; It's much easier to transport than shrooms. It costs more and people are always willing to pay rediculous amounts of money for it. Many people find LSD to be a better trip than shrooms (i.e. myself). And LSD played a huge role in an entire generations social movement, which I believe causes a lot of people to want to experiment with it.

I think shrooms provide more of an uncontrollable trip then LSD. I'm always getting bad trips off of shrooms, where as LSD is just the opposite. But LSD does have more of a mind fuck thing going than shrooms, and when you get a bad trip off LSD it's impossible to get out of it, it's just something that you can't controll. The only way to get out of a bad trip is to take your mind completly off of wut's giving you a bad trip. Which is very hard to do.

[searcher]

Negative effects ?


Mental confusion, sweats, teeth grinding/clenched jaw, lack of sleep, "spongy" feeling (tiredness and some slight halucination when "comming down"), paranoia.

Food doesn't taste the same (to me,when under the influence, food tastes like the smell of burned plastic)

[dags]

dont think of flashbacks as a bad thing man

[42itis]

It would be best for a person to take a half of whatever is dosed at first. The amount of micrograms per carrier is rarely common knowledge and may vary within the same batch. Set and setting is extremely important, a person should have a soft, controlled, environment for the peak of the trip. Ideal time of day would be to dose 3 hours before sunset. Approximately 35 minutes after you dose, go to a crowded or busy store to buy some beverages or snacks for your trip, its fun to feel the change of conciousness in public, but spend most of the trip in the soft environ,dont use any alcohol until much later in the trip and then use very little. A person should always have good marijuana on hand and be sure to smoke it 3 to 4 hours after dosing, just a little. After you know your product you may take more, but always in a safe, soft, secure environ. Peace

It's not like you can chop a MicroDot in half anyway. No take a full hit and just enjoy wut acid has to offer. I can't understand these people who take only half a roll, or a quarter of a roll, or a quarter of a blotter. If you don't want to experience the full effects of a drug, then don't do it!!


No you take a full hit, strap yourself in, and enjoy the ride.

[nrkus]

Well thanks, that's settled then. But one last thing, does anyone have some advice about how to actually get the stuff? I mean the big advantage of mushrooms seems to be that you can getthem easily, for instance at coffee shops in holland. LSD's another story...


PS: I live in Europe, if that changes anything, western germany to be precise. Oh and if possible,I would like to avoid ruining myself for it. After all it used to be one of the cheapest drugs around.

[Simurgh]

Originally Posted by nrkus

PS: I live in Europe, if that changes anything, western germany to be precise.

Try a goa party, if you like. Techno clubs should work too.

Originally Posted by nrkus

Oh and if possible, I would like to avoid ruining myself for it.

Prices vary from 5-15€ (party price) for a single blotter. In south germany acid is more expansive than in the north.

Go to a huge ass Rave. People are charging as much as 20 dollars a hit, same as a roll.

[Stingray_313]

Yeah, to look for any psycadelic drugs, concerts/raves/large parties
are the best place. Just the other day, i was in a Dark Star Orchestra
concert (a Grateful Dead Cover band, in case you didnt know) and about
7 individual people came up to me and were like "You look for some
doses man?"... A friend of mine bought from one of these dudes and got
3 hits of plain white blotter for REALLY cheep... sorry i cant list
exactly how cheap, that is against forum policy.



The moral is: Concerts have lots of drugs... especially Greatful Dead ones.



Peace