Side effects - kratom Didn't work.

[xzaviergomez]

He took 6 grams total, 2 of the 15x, 2 of the 15x resin, and two of the full spectrum extract.

He felt nothing other than at one point his nose itched like it did everytime he tried opiates. And at one point feeling pretty tired.

And yet he woke up with a horrible hangover. =/

[honourableone]

Kratom definitely works, but some makes and sources are of very low quality. SWIM thinks that you should research what brands are good if you try kratom again. SWIM also thinks you rushed into your new purchase - it sounds like it's from the same vendor, which may mean quality of other products could be an issue, and some of the things you ordered are notorious for being very weak highs, or at least having very common quality issues (eg opium lettuce), although SWIM has never had anything in your newest order.

With several mescaline cacti being legal, SWIM knows that legal highs have a lot to offer, but research is very important to ensure that money isn't wasted (though it seems as if you have a very high budget)

[xzaviergomez]

I don't know if we're allowed to drop names, but from what I've read, the site is was purchased from was reliable, respected, and reputed for having high quality stuff.

The second purchase, was gotten from !!!, which seems to be the most trusted?

Money isn't really an issue, he just wants to feel something.

[honourableone]

SWIM doesn't think any of the extracts labelled 15x are anywhere near that strong, thing called Premium or Ultra Enhanced are usually better, SWIM thinks (someone else is more likely to know more about grades of kratom that SWIM). Kratom pies are said to always be of acceptable quality, but SWIM has never had (or known where to get) them.

SWIY may have a good vendor, but if products are from different places, causing large inconsistencies between products. Also, some legal herbs will never be that impressive, and will have negligible effects regardless of quality. SWIM regrets that he can't tell SWIY where to get good kratom and that there is a lot of poor quality stuff out there. If SWIY wants easy access to legals what will make him "feel something", he may have access (depending on where he lives) to herbal marijuana. If SWIY is interested SWIM will be happy to give advice on these, and he strongly recomends another attempt at kratom if SWIY can get a product he is more sure about.

SWIM doesn't know what you mean by ****, but if it is hinting at a source it may still be breaking the rules. SWIY was right not to name the source of his first purchase.

[N0ly]

Please read the rules! price and source discussion are not allowed in this forum.

From the few experiences my friend Pink has had with kratom extracts and resins is that they are very fickle sometime you get a good extract and some times you don't.

[Spiral Out]

My dogs experience with extract powders (15 x ) wasnt very satisfying

SWIY has to try different products. My dog has found that Bali leaf is just what the vet ordered