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[lerms]

If someone were to take 4 vicodin M360s would that be enough to feel anything? they are 7.5/750s.

[Herbal Healer 019]

Depends on the persons opiate tolerance. No tolerance= 2 much; with tolerance= depends. Some1 with no or low tolerance would need 10-20mg & 30 would give them nausea prob.

1 would definately need to CWE that in order 2 avoid possible severe kindey and liver damage. The max dose of Acetaminophen/paracetamol (tylenol) is 4000mg & the max dose at once is like 1500mg.

[lerms]

okay so since they are 7.5 of codeine then that would be like 23mgs of codeine? or is it the 750 that is the mg. this person has done vicodin once before and felt nothing. and felt nothing again after 4 m360s.

[gmeziscool2354]

15 mg's (2 pills) of hydrocodone is enough for most non-tolerant users to feel a good buzz lasting several (2-3) hours. if SWIY is not tolerant, swiy should look into potentiation of that dose, because with the right potentiation cocktail 15 mg's can go a long way for a non-tolerant user

if SWIY is toleran, like 20 mgs of oxycodone wouldn't really do much at all, then Swiy should CWE the pills, like herbal healer advised

[lerms]

well someone took 4 7.5/750s and are not tolerant and felt no effect. could it be a natural immunity?

[Herbal Healer 019]

Originally Posted by lerms

okay so since they are 7.5 of codeine then that would be like 23mgs of codeine? or is it the 750 that is the mg. this person has done vicodin once before and felt nothing. and felt nothing again after 4 m360s.

Vicodin's do not contain codeine, they contain hydrocodone. & 7.5/750 means 7.5mg hydrocodone/750mg acetaminophen (tylenol). Maybe SWIy is a poor metabolizer of CYP2D6 liver enzyme inducing drugs such as hydrocodone, thus SWIM wont get much out of opiates. & Im not sure about someone who aint you's tolerance to opiates, so adjust dose according to tolerance as needed without goin overboard.

Also keep in mind, it isn't the hydrocodone that will kill or harm your body, it's the acetaminophen (tylenol), which is probably worse than alcohol on the liver. When taking doses of 30mgs of hydrocodone & 3000mg tylenol, the tylenol should be Cold Water Extracted out (search engine) to avoid liver & kidney damage. B smart, ur health is better than a 4 hour high.

[lerms]

yeah sorry i meant hydrocodone. and okay thats pretty helpfull. i mean this person took 30mg of hydrocodone and felt nothing at all. and they have only done it once before and didnt feel anything...

[gmeziscool2354]

well someone should look up info about potentiation and try some of those techniques. 30 mg's of hydrocodone should be enough for even a tolerant user to feel somethign , or atleast alleviate withdrawals in the case of an addict

[lerms]

actualy SWIM just started to feel a little after 2 hours. what could be the cause of this?

[gmeziscool2354]

i think herbal healer hit the nail on the head in his last post, but also, how much food did SWIY have in his stomach?

sometimes that can play a big roll in how the dose takes effect, and swim has observed this to be very true of hydrocodone syrup, tho has no experience to speak of with pills

[lerms]

SWIM ate like 30 minutes before and was pretty full mus thave been it. SWIM is feeling it a litttle now. but last night SWIM had 2 norcos and then a beer and was feeling great

[RaverHippie]

sounds like a case of a full stomach. CWEs are very quick and easy to perform and are useful to try if one decided to make a habit of this.

[gmeziscool2354]

i believe there is a video in the archives of how to do one, but if not then there is definitly one on youtube