Experiences - BZP not a psychedelic?!?

[HorseBucket]

I think some crazy shit happened to swim last night.Swim never took any notice of BZP cuz swim thought it was just some legal bullshit that did nothing but after hearing enough people recommend it swim bought some of these pills called Diablos and swim was in an idiotic mood so he popped 2 of them despite it saying "dont double drop" on the pack.

Going by what people told swim about it "its crazy shit" he assumed it was some kind of psychedelic and it took at least an hour to kick in but when it did kick in it was just like a full blown mushroom trip. When swim told his friends he was tripping like mad they told him its not even a psychedelic its just a stimulant. That didn't change the fact that he was in a psychedelic trip though. It was a fairly bizarre trip too he kept seeing everyone morph into cartoon characters and when he took a piss in the toilet watching the water turn yellow was real disturbing it was like he could taste the piss.

Anyhow swims real confused about what happened. Swim never did any research on this drug at all so he had false expectations but his false expectations weren't false in his case because it actually did hit him as a psychedelic. If this was purely the placebo effect then I think we all need to rethink our current views of drugs. If swim entered a full blown psychedelic trip induced by expectation alone then he can do the same without taking any drugs at all if he can convince myself enough.

Reputation Comments on this post:

shouldn't self-incriminate! :(

[Mona Lisa]

Please go back and edit out your self-incriminating post!

[HorseBucket]

BZP is legal. Edited for the sake of it though

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by HorseBucket

BZP is legal. Edited for the sake of it though

Not everywhere it isn't and you can't expect mods to find out the location of every poster and then check the laws for that country. You are supposed to use the SWIM method or an alternative for every post you make regardless of your local laws. With the amount of posts you have and the time since your registration I would have thought you would be very aware of that.

BZP, mCPP, TFMPP, meOPP and any other Piperazine has never had any psychedelic effects on my little fishy even in high doses, maybe these Diablo's also contain LSA aswell as Piperazine(s) - which can be psychedelic for many (but not all) users.

EDIT:

Where they Diablo XXX or Diablo light years or something else? The Diablo XXX pills are, apparently, BZP free.

[HorseBucket]

No they're just called DIABLO in flaming letters. Heres everything it says on the pack

Front:
DIABLO

DO NOT DOUBLE DROP!

STRONG AS HELL


Inside:
ACCEPT NO IMITATIONS

Back:
INGREDIENTS: 400mg BZP/TFMPP blend, boosters, vitamins,amino acids and tableting acids

DOSAGE: This pill has some serious kick, DO NOT DOUBLE DROP! Wait at least 2 hours between pills. Take with water or fruit juice. Most effective on an empty stomach. If under 60kg only take half a pill

WARNING: May experience jaw tension, altered perception, insomnia and suppressed appetite. May act as a CNS stimulant. Do not take if pregnant, lactating, have a heart condition, suffer from mental illness or high blood pressure

AVOID EXCESS ALCOHOL

PHONE: ...
EMAIL: ....
POSTAL: .... Auckland, New Zealand (interesting considering this stuffs been banned in NZ)

[leckie]

awrite mate it gives me trips lol good ones at that a go for like 5 days at a time am a hardcore one
bzp is the one
mcpp on its on is mental lol

[HorseBucket]

5 days? Holy shit. Swims gonna try it again some day soon and see how it goes. Bad trips only get swim the odd time when he hasn't done psychedelics in a good while.

[leckie]

aye mate its good stuff. only found out last night there classifying bzp this year in the whole of europe. goin to have to get me a few kilos lol

[KomodoMK]

It's already banned in the UK but still available. Wouldn't buy any of it personally, it's far behind other legal research chemicals and illegals. Little fishy doesn't like the body load and feels the buzz is much more dirtier and less euphoric that MDMA, Amphetamines, Methylmethcathinone or Methylenedioxymethcathinone. mCPP seems to be even worse than BZP or TFMPP.

[leckie]

i know its banned but i said its going to become classifyed meaning completely illegal. what better legals r out there that have a long lasting buzz. i dont compare bzp to mdma its completely different its got a different buzz altogether swim comes up everytime they take a bomb or pill which is good, have also figured out a way to get to sleep no bother. swim hates mcpp lol its crap its evil lol... so what other legals r better then?

[Sven99]

Well, 2 of those pills would be 800mg of BZP/TFMPP, which is a really massive dose, especially if they have a high TFMPP content. My invisible friend has never done more than 100mg of TFMPP in one go, and the time he did it made him feel pretty unpleasant. Also Gods know what 'boosters' means.

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by Sven99

Also Gods know what 'boosters' means.

Boosters are usually small top up doses taken during or towards the tail end of the peak to extend the effects. Generally the time they need to be taken to extend the effects varies between drugs and sometimes the booster dose needs to be equal too or above the original dose to have significant effects, most people find this to be the case with Methylone (bk-MDMA).

[readeadamie]

SWIM thinks that the boosters are amino acids (L-tyrosine and the like). They could be anything though.

[CanadianFool]

SWIM bought pills that are 180mg mix of BZP/TFMPP. Swim smoked cannabis before and while on 1 of the pills and had horrible trips.

SWIM then split the last pill in half and hasn't taken any since.

[SirLancalot]

800mg is a massive dose alright and probably cause the tripping with all the TFMPP, glad swim had fun