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Hey guys, SWIM can only get pure MDMA powder right now, well ether that
or shitty rolls. Which is cool actually, but SWIM hates the fact that it ends so soon. In pills there is binder so i suspect thats why they last longer. Is there any way to make powder last as long as a roll? It just seems the plateu is within 45 min and its over abruptly. Intese plateu none the less. |
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Are you sure you are getting pure MDMA? It shouldn't really make a difference weather it is in pill form or not. If you get a pill that is 100mg pure MDMA and a capsule with 100mg mdma they should last about the same abount of time. Are you snorting the powder or eating it?
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Actually it does make a difference. Pure MDMA is usually in capsules which dissolve very quickly in your stomach. The high is more intense but doesn't last as long, like people who chew or parachute rolls. In pill form it is a little bit time released. Some people add a booster dose. SWIM prefers about 150mg to start then 70-80mg boosters. If you take it at the right time it will hit during the 1st one keeping your level up. Makes sense right? What else helps the roll last longer? There are new drugs out known as nootropics or "smart drugs." Piracetam and Aniracetam (considered more potent and longer lasting than Piracetam) have been know to increase the length of the xtc experience and some say more pleasurable. Research it and see if you likes, it's totally legal to buy. |
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SWIM has the same problem, usually lasts about 3 hours max. Tried 2 hits at the same time, lasted about 4 hours.
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I tend to use other drugs on the comedown. What I find is that
some of the effects of the X last, while some of them don't. The ones that don't last as long can sometimes be compensated for by using something else. |
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im sure its pure, i have thought of maybe eating before the roll.
I will look into Piracetam and Aniracetam. If its cool to ask, where can one obtain these? If they are legal i dont think its asking for a source, but if im wrong just let me know. Thanks |
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I guess its not asking for a source, but I'm also not allowed to advertise for other sites so I can't give you an exact address. What I can do is tell you to go to google, type piracetam and many sites will come up, shop around for a good price and you are set. They are both totally legal since they are just to enhance mental focus like ginko biloba, but better and itz not herbal. Sold in health stores. |
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hey, swim has read about this piracetam before although she has
only really rolled properly once - 3 bikkies over 9 hrs - swim is mostly convinced that she is one of the "tolerant" ones. to help intensify the experience and save swim wasting $ on tripple dropping etc, she thought perhaps taking something beforehand like piracetam mite help? and maybe take 2 bikkies at once to begin with? but swim has a dillema in that she can't seem to find any ozzie websites on piracetem. does anyone know if it actually exists in australia? swim is too afraid to just go into a pharmacy and ask for piracetem in case they start asking why she wants that drug specifically. do u think just ginko biloba supplements could achieve the same thing? why do no ozzies post here god dammit!!?? |
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Ginkgo doesnt really have the same effect.. Although SWIM finds high
doses of Ginkgo to be a good thing in everyday life (or when MDMA'd), whitout being too technical (because I'm not), it kind of makes the blood pathways bigger.. This has the benefit of keeping circulation to extremeties and extremeties warm, as well as giving you a bit of a mental boost. Whether I'm a placebo kiddy or not, Ginkgo is good stuff, although the effect is almost completely diluted if you've eaten recently. ![]() |
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Seriously you will not get in trouble for piracetam, do you get scared to go to the store for asprin or vitamins? Get off the paranoia, you are allowed to have it, no one is going to bust your door down. If you don't find a website in aus. order internationally. If they ask, you want to try it for your concentration, you have a test, heck say, "I just wanna take it" What would you say if they asked why you're buying a bottle of tylenol.
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Re: increasing pure mollys duration
Post deleted.
Last edited by Fantasian; 26-11-2007 at 11:42. |
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Re: increasing pure mollys duration
Sometimes with MDMA a larger dose will be more intense and last less time, rather than more, as compared to a smaller dose. If you have a capsule with crystals I recommend opening it up and dropping the crystals underneath your tongue. I don't know what the chemical reaction that occurs is, but if it's pure MDMA it will dissolve instantly, leaving a cold (sometimes painfully cold) spot where you dropped the crystals. Since you will still have some residue on the inside of the capsule, close it back up and swallow that too. Within 10 minutes you will be feeling it.
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Re: increasing pure molly’s duration
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Piracetam is also a drug that is supposed to enhance memory or concentration or somesuch. |
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Re: increasing pure mollys duration
On a packet of Ampamet (aniracetam) SWIM found the warning "Do not take if you are pregnant, breast-feeding, are under the effect of alcohol and/or amphetamines." How seriously should SWIM take this warning?
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Re: increasing pure mollys duration
Also what is a suggested dosage? What time in relation to taking MDMA should SWIM take the dose of Ampamet?
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Re: increasing pure molly’s duration
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Does anyone have any information on Pira or Anira dosages? Swim was thinking 500mg with his 120mg MDMA? |
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Re: increasing pure mollys duration
SWIF has used from 1000mg of piracetam up to 3000mg combined with 100mg of MDMA.
It's worth noting that while piracetam definately enhances the experience it does make it somewhat more aggressive and differant to just a normal MDMA experience. SWIF also found much much more nausea during the comeup with piracetam included too. SWIF would suggest 1000mg piracetam with an 100mg dose to start. Anything greater than 1500mg the experience is too nauseous and adds a negative side to what should be a magical experience. |
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Re: increasing pure mollys duration
Would Aniracetam really be a good choice to help enhance one's MDMA experience? My pet cat found this while researching it:
After a confirmed test of the anxiolytic efficacy in a mouse model, receptor antagonists haloperidol, mecamylamine, and ketanserin were applied. Haloperidol completely reversed the anxiolytic effects, and mecamylamine and ketanserin nearly completely reversed the effects. This shows that aniracetam's anxiolytic mechanism is facilitated by D2/D3 dopamine, nicotinic acetylcholine, and 5-HT2A receptors. Now, he is not quite sure what that means. But, is it saying that it uses the dopamine and 5-HT2A receptors? If it is, wouldn't that be a bad thing and potentially lessen the effects of the MDMA since it is using more of the dopamine and the MDMA uses quite a bit of dopamine as well? My pet cat can very well be completely wrong, but that just does not sound good to him at all. The nootropic itself sounds like it can be very beneficial, but if it is using up your brains dopamine and 5H-T2A receptors than it sounds like there would be a noticeable difference when not taking it and that it would lower the effects of the MDMA and other drugs. Piracetam on the other hand just sounds good all around. Not as strong as Aniracetam, but from what my cat read it does not use dopamine or anything else that would lower the effects of MDMA and other drugs. Plus, my pet cat has heard quite a few reports of using Piracetam to get more out of MDMA and only one report from Aniracetam. And it wasn't good. Please correct my pet cat wherever he is wrong. |
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