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Old 15-12-2008, 19:21
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help needed badly

swim friend is heavily addicted to h
he has none available at the moment,and is going through the worst withdrawel.hes says every bit of hom is in agony and he just wants a hit.the only thing he has available to him is morphine & kaolin mix for upset stomaches.could that do anything?
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Re: help needed badly

Why doesn't he just take his morphine and get rid of the withdrawals?...
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he hasnt got any the only thing he has is kaolin and morphine it says is contains 0.458 mg of morphine.could this do anything?
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Re: help needed badly

First off. Please stop and make your posts more legible. Use periods, capital letters, etc. You also just said in your first post that he had morphine, now you're saying he hardly has any. It's much easier to help when you post your problems in a detailed, clear format, that also shows you have clearly done some research.

Research part...I hate this...so much. This is possibly my biggest pet peeve ever. Why the hell would you put a drug in your body, PERIOD, let alone every day for months, without the sense to go on google, read about opiates for a freaking HOUR, and learn the BASICS about them? It should be common sense that morphine would help opiate withdrawals. It should be common sense that ANY opiate does that. If swiy's friend really does not understand that and why it works, he really shouldn't be doing heroin(not that anybody shoulllllllld in the first place).



I do not know the medical uses for kaolinite. All I found upon a quick read was that it's some sort of mineral and a complete guess would probably mean it's not going to be very helpful, otherwise I PROBABLY would have heard about it. But go do some research on the effects of that. If it's used for any of the withdrawal symptoms from heroin(nauea, pain, sweating, anxiety, etc.) and appears safe. Go for it.

ANYTHING that binds to the opioid receptors will help withdrawals to some degree. Half a milligram of morphine won't do much though....I wasn't even aware it came in such small amounts...

Kratom is commonly recommended, but gets sorta costly.

And the harsher swiy's friend goes through withdrawals, the faster they'll get over with I guess.

Sorry for snapping. But dude. You have to understand. It pisses me of SOO much when people pretend like they don't need to know info about the drugs they use. Then you get stupid people like this "LSD makes you bleed from your spine," "How do you know?" "It's common sense everybody knows that duh!" "No...it really doesn't....research it," "Na I don't trust the internet you just think you know everything, drugs are common sense blah blah blah imgonnagooverdoseoncokeinayear". Or all swim's friends that think cocaine is COMPLETELY HARMLESS JUST EXPENSIVE! There are a lot of stupid people in the world, and swim needs to do more drugs so he dumbs down to their level and can enjoy life.
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Re: help needed badly

Im thinking that the kaolinite itself contains the morphine, maybe per a small dosage if that's the case see if you can od on kaolinite if you cant try and take as much as it takes to get about 10mg of morphine in your body. Or suck it up for 5 days to get through the worst of it. Still more details about this kaolinite would be very helpfull, and the morphine.

swellin added 14 Minutes and 59 Seconds later...

Ok after a quick search i found some info on the kaolin, not kaolinite which is a clay. So kaolin BP is a medicine for diarrhoea and inflammation of the bowels it contains a very small amount of morphine per dose, so unless you can extract the morphine from the kaolin solution i think you are out of luck, sorry to say that.

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Re: help needed badly

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Im thinking that the kaolinite itself contains the morphine, maybe per a small dosage if that's the case see if you can od on kaolinite if you cant try and take as much as it takes to get about 10mg of morphine in your body. Or suck it up for 5 days to get through the worst of it. Still more details about this kaolinite would be very helpfull, and the morphine.

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Ok after a quick search i found some info on the kaolin, not kaolinite which is a clay. So kaolin BP is a medicine for diarrhoea and inflammation of the bowels it contains a very small amount of morphine per dose, so unless you can extract the morphine from the kaolin solution i think you are out of luck, sorry to say that.
from swims experience the two seperate reasonably well ( or used to )
well.. the clay ( kaolin ) to the bottom ) and the thick liquid at top which contains the morphine. when swim used h swim tried k&m but to be honest it was just not worth swims time. swim thinks you would be better off with a carefully and safely executed cwe of cocodamol.

there is a thread here :

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35354

and here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...aolin+morphine

swim understand that if swiy is clucking it is hard to think and type and post but please check the search engine and also have a good read of the cwe techniques here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55790

swim found this info on otc opiates in uk:

DIOCALM contains 4.74 milligrams per 12 pills......
J.Collis Brownes mixture contains 3 milligrams per 15 millilitres..........
Kaolin and morphine mixture contains .916 milligrams per 10 millitres....

not much really is it?
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