Opinions - Going to psychiatrist

[bikeguy1030]

Ok well im 18 and going to a psychiatrist on tuesday. My mom talked to him (i live with her) and said she think I would benefit from some medecine or some shit. Basically I have anger issues... the smallest shit will really piss me off. I also have some pretty bad social anxiety, some trouble sleeping, and can't concentrate in class. I have also had musclular lower back pain caused by stress for 4 years now and at one point it got so bad I had to go to the hospital.

Im hoping to get a benzo, and not some bullshit ssri, i really think i would benefit from them. Another thing, I LOVE adderall and really do think I may have ADHD (which may be related to my anger issues... idk). Do you think I should tell him this? Or do you think that would just lessen my chances of getting put on a benzo. Then again theres always the chance I'd get both. But i kinda doubt Id get a stimulant with my stress and anger issues, but i may be wrong.

I appreciate any input on this.

Thanks

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[Nemba]

First off, saying you love adderall comes pretty close to, if not is, incriminating yourself, what you obviously meant is that your pet hamster loves adderall.

Secondly, I would consider the possibility that adderall (amphetamine) use is, if not the cause at least a big contributor to anger issues, insomnia, and anxiety problems (which themselves cause insomnia, which then worsens anger, stress and anxiety in quite a horrible cycle) . If your hamster uses it regularly, have him try stopping for a few months and see if his condition improves.

Seeing a psychiatrist can be very helpful, but make sure you get a good one, they can also do more harm than help. If you really think that being spaced out on benzos with an increasing tolerance will help him, I don't really know what to say. As far as I understand, they may be helpful for acute anxiety attacks, but to use them to deal with anger rather than trying to work out why you become angry so easily will most likely only result in benzo dependance for the rest of your life.

[KaLiShNiKoF]

SWIW Should be honest with the doc, not too honest, but enough so he/she gets the point, if your having trouble sleeping, social anxiety, and blasting off at your mother for no good reasons at all, SWIW should probably not try adderall, especially since SWIW enjoys it so much, that is an issue and can later lead to SWIW having a high tolorence and not having the same effects desired, resulting in taking more medicine, depression, etc... so SWIM would advise no adderall, but you should mention it if you feel its right. Also, do some research on seeing a doc, you'll find really good stuff. No bullshit here.
good luck!
keep me posted please!!!

KaLiShNiKoF added 2 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

NEMBA said it best, follow those directions and please be careful.
keep us posted though!!!

[gerrardo]

hi just look outside thebox dont seem needy dont bribe your doc thatswrong

[bikeguy1030]

Originally Posted by Nemba

First off, saying you love adderall comes pretty close to, if not is, incriminating yourself, what you obviously meant is that your pet hamster loves adderall.

Secondly, I would consider the possibility that adderall (amphetamine) use is, if not the cause at least a big contributor to anger issues, insomnia, and anxiety problems (which themselves cause insomnia, which then worsens anger, stress and anxiety in quite a horrible cycle) . If your hamster uses it regularly, have him try stopping for a few months and see if his condition improves.

Seeing a psychiatrist can be very helpful, but make sure you get a good one, they can also do more harm than help. If you really think that being spaced out on benzos with an increasing tolerance will help him, I don't really know what to say. As far as I understand, they may be helpful for acute anxiety attacks, but to use them to deal with anger rather than trying to work out why you become angry so easily will most likely only result in benzo dependance for the rest of your life.

I know why I'm angry... I just can't control it; its the way i am. Just like anxiety...
And I would seriously just take it as prescribed and i doubt he would increase the dosage to the point i get really dependant on them.

As far as adderall, swim used to use it twice a week or so. he did notice at times it could make him more angry when wearing off, but when on it swim is actually more content, happier, and has virtually no anxiety. Swim did build a tolerance doing just 20mg twice a week, and it got so it just really stopped doing that much. It's deffinately something swim would want to take daily but he thinks a script would be nice for occasional use.

bikeguy1030 added 2 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

adderall is deffinately *not* something swim would want to take daily

[KaLiShNiKoF]

Seems like SWIWs main concern is to get a script for adderall, not a good idea at all, i'm sure anyone on this forum would tell you the same with your situation.

[bikeguy1030]

No, his main concern is a benzo script, which he really thinks would benefit him. swim can get adderall now, and i havent taken any in over 3 weeks now.

bikeguy1030 added 2 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

just forget swim said anything about adderall. And i wouldnt tell him that swim has taken it, i would just tell him about my trouble concentrating

[cra$h]

Tell him that swiy has found aderall helpful, and let him know if it's a script or not, they're not going to lock you up. But don't say that you love the feeling it gives, just say it helps a little. By saying you're a psychonaut, the shrink is going to think twice before handing out candies.

[dopeboymajic420]

yea wat swiycrash said is oh too true. swim went to many doctors after beign caight using and selling drugs and all theyll give u is an ssri or buspirone(buspar) which worsened swims anxiety. now however he has a very naive doc who gives swim dextroamphetamine and benzoddiazopienes knowing he stocks them and sells them.... and she knows he faked taking his ssri. docs are quite complicated

[cra$h]

they know more than you think. It's their job. Patterns, stereotypes, all that shit is what they spend 8 years of college for. Watch what's said, and you can out psyche the psych.

[Ilsa]

sounds like the amphetamine comedown makes swiy's anger/irritability worse....so swiy might want to find new methods for coping with concentration issues.

as far as the psych goes...swiy should tread carefully and act as cooperative and indulgent as possible. most psych's (swim has had a few good ones, but by and large they suck, hopefully swiy's won't) need to feel needed and need to feel knowledgeable (as in more knowledgeable than swiy, they get offended otherwise). swiy should avoid any mention of use of any sort and should also avoid asking for anything specifically--that will be labelled drug-seeking. basically swiy should let the doc think he/she is guiding the conversation and making the suggestions. swiy can steer the converstaion by saying the right things--being cooperative and nonconfrontational when making suggestion or describing issues. above all, and this can be difficult, directly contradicting or arguing wtih the doc should be avoided...this just allows them to climb up on the clinician's pedestal and slap swiy with all sorts of crappy labels.

best of luck with it.

[LouisLover]

To answer your QU about getting a benzo. Swim told the truth but emblished a bit. Well it all started out truthfully. Swim was in a love triangle that was driving Swim insane. Swim had swims first panic at 22. Swim thought swim was having a heart attack, went to ER. Got refered to school psych. Swim hit jackpot bc he handed out drugs like candy and loved Swim and would give swim anything swimanythign she asked for.

But then graduated but still luckily had her records. But still had to do sum convicing. Swim gets bars, 90 a month actaully. Swim says this to pdocs, very truthful and calmly. looking in docs eyes. "Swim doesn't know what to do or what goes on with swims body and mind". "Swims heart starts pounding out of her chest and she starts dry heaving" "Swim thinks she is going to die" Its like living ina personal hell". The xanax or your benzo of choice almost immediately just brings me down back to my old self." BUT in your 1st visit act clueless, liek you have nio clue benzos even exist!!! Very important IMO. Or casually mention it

"Swim has scared ppl , bc Swim cant catch her breathe and starts chaking, etc" You get the point. Act kinda confused. DON"T go in saying I need a scipt of xanax bars. Because most likely there goina start u on a low dose, I think there peach ones. Then you can say on your next visit (if they honestly dont work) they do no good or what I did was I said I needed to take 4 or 5 when I had a panic attack or felt anxious. But I also have a plus bc I'm bi-polar and a lot of bi polar ppl are on benzos.

WARNING-NOT A LECTURE- plzzzzz be careful with benzos, swim persoanlly doesn't care for them and either gets rid of her script or uses them sparingly and saves them all up for a big party. BC swim knows benzo junkies for real. Swim never knew ppl could becoem that obsessed with them but ppl can. It's nuts. Swims script has been stolen 3x in 2 years. Sad bc swim does honestly get panic attacks and swim would need her meds if that happens. So I'm jsut warning you that this pill is highly addictive! good luck. And IMO it wouldn't help with anger but it;s your life and swim was just answering your question. Tells me if this helps and remeber try to act clueless. That's what I did because I was clueless. I had never heard of xanax before and got it off the bat.

[e4rolls]

SWIY should also consider that his mother already had a talk with his new psychiatrist and who knows what she said to him exactly.

SWIM's brother-in-law had sever anger issues and would go nuclear over the slightest problem or setback and he went to the doctor and was diagnosed with depression.

He is now currently taking an SSRI which has made a huge difference in his attitude as far as I can tell. He is not exploding with rage anymore and seems so much calmer and easy-going.
He also is prescribed a hypnotic benzo for sleep but as far as I know he does'nt abuse that for anxiety relief.

Depression can cause anger, irritablity, anxiety, insomnia and lack of concentration. So if the psychiatrist feels that you might be suffering from Major Depressive Disorder don't be suprised if you get prescribed an SSRI.

Benzo's are prescribed for acute anxiety (panic disorder, general anxiety disorder) and not as much for social phobia and definately not for anger management.

Don't get caught up in self diagnosis/self medicating because you will do more harm than good, worsening your anger and anxiety issues.

Also speaking from SWIM's experience, don't try to manipulate a psychiatrist because if you get caught you will spend many months trying to gain their trust again.
It sucks to get denied all access to benzodiazepines or stimulant medications for drug seeking behavior.

Hope it goes well, good luck!

[Juko]

dude i am 19. you don't need a benzo script. you'll regret it. swim did the same shit, and am still battling it.

Juko added 2 Minutes and 31 Seconds later...

do you want help? or do you want to get high? the doctor knows what is right. don't me mad if you don't get a benzo. be glad you do not need it. antidepressants work wonders and dont fuck up lives.

[mbarnes0]

Originally Posted by Juko

antidepressants work wonders and dont fuck up lives.

I wouldn't 100% agree with this. Yea certain ones do good things for certain people. My doctor started me on fluoxetine and I hated the way it made me. Even other SSRIs don't really work. I felt in the middle all the time, not sad but not happy. They made me act differently and lots of other weird side effects. They were fucking up my life. The benzos I get actually help me when I have a problem, sure there not necessarily for everyday use but they do work wonders on a panic attack. The problem starts when the abuse starts.

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by Juko

antidepressants work wonders and dont fuck up lives.

I wouldn't say that they don't fuck up lives but they do help many people but they also can cause irreversible changes in the brain chemistry. I don't have the time to bring up the research on that but if you want to look up some of Panthers007 posts on this topic, he has talked about this very idea many times.

[morph-fiene200]

Swims advice for your situation is... If you really have anxiety, try ssri's first, which is what all docs give in the beginning. Swim has been on xanax now for 4 years, for anxiety, and also Effexor helps wonders, but the Xanax only helped in the beginning and after a little while, you won't even feel Xanax's effects, UNTIL you miss a dose. Swim never asked for a specific drug, and was trully seeking help. It took over 7 months of MANY different medication before Swim was Prescribed to a benzo. So Swims advice is to not even start taking a benzo because eventually you will feel you need to take a pill just to go to the store or get out of bed. Try Therapy or SSRI's, dont give up if one medication you try doesn't work there are many different SSRI's. ( and they do work for some people, but obviously there is no recreational effects.) If you have any questions at all just P.M. me good luck

[KaLiShNiKoF]

Yes, just today SWIM had that feeling
SWIM did not want to go to work, the thought was frightening me!
it was almost to the point where SWIM was going to call in sick, even the thought of calling in sick was nerve wrecking, but going to the store and all that stuff is just so difficult unless SWIM knows SWIM has Xanax or that feeling knowing SWIM is going to take it soon and if this is the case, SWIM is so anxious, SWIM can see his shirt move to the beat of the Pulse and SWIMs hands are dripping in nervous sweat..
ahh! SWIM wishes he'd never started, or had known better.

[Jasim]

Originally Posted by bikeguy1030

Ok well im 18 and going to a psychiatrist on tuesday.

Just curious, why does your profile say you're 20?

[KaLiShNiKoF]

SWIM is sure a lot of people don't tell the truth about age here... hah! funny SWIy caught that. nice Catch!