Drug info - CWE info from experience

[hail the poppy]

Well there is alot of people who aren't really people out there who rely on the cwe method for rec use. a surprising amount really. So swim thought some people might like to hear this. There is alot of arguement over water temp. procedure ect. Swim extracts 100 pills 8mg/15mg/300mg start to finish 5 minutes.swim lives in canada so codeine is easy to get as it is not a triplacate prescription. so swim usually doses 14 t4's (840mg)this clears up a myth or two.i've read in other threads that anything over 400mg at one time is useless as the body only metabalizes that much or some bullshit. Not true i get WAY higher on 800 than 400. And same thread said 400mg is lethal for even the opiate tolerant patient. once again NOT true!I do on average 2000 mg a day when dope sick. As for procedure:if crushing t4's swim just rolls a spoon over but the t1's swim wraps 100 in a news papper and attacks it with a claw hammer. Swim then dumps said powder in jar,eye balls aprox 2ml per pill of hot tap water and shake for a few minutes.Swim wets a coffee filter, hangs it in tall glass with rubber band/hair tie and dump contents of jar in filter. Swim them gently removes band and twists the top of filter together so none can come out the top and gently squeeze (being extra carfull not to break filter) forcing the solutin out. End result: the same color of solution as the long procedure of cooling water and letting drain on own.My opinion if you get more aceta. in solution with swim's method it is Very minimal.


Swim offered the idea of the activated charcoal trip to drugs-forum awhile back and i have some info on that but first: to the swimer who is so freakin' irrate over the fact that thay feel they deserve the credit for the introduction. Fill yer boots big guy. Who fuckin cares the point is it was brougjht up and is now being tried tested etc. so who fuckin cares who originally said it first. Weirdo!

Anyhow Swim truly believes that the charcoal does infact absorb the codeine as well. There are two facts that lead me to believe this. One is that my child ate some 4's (2 yrs old) They gave him charcoal on the advice of the poison control centre. He was then fine. never even effected. Second. After passing through the charcoal twenty plus times there is ZERO bitterness. Almost plain water. so make of it what you will

Peace!

[TheNewLeft]

activated charcoal removes some of the codeine no doubt....but not all.

the proof is simply in the experience....it works....definitely. but that being said i estimate the charcoal catches anywhere between 10-20% of the codeine....so i compensate by adding extra pills. considering how cheap codeine is in canada....this isn't really a big deal. also, i'd rather lose some money to a pure codeine experience than gulp down 600mg of caffeine in one sip for 320mg of codeine. it's simply not worth it.

i agree the water does look clear enough to be regular water....but poor some OTC cough syrup or liquid benadryl or even food coloring in there....and you will see the codeine phosphate floating around in there.

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also man....if you live in canada....always buy 222s the generic brand....they're just like tylonal 1s....only with aspirin instead of tylonal and aspirin filters much quicker and much cleaner.

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one more thing....its pretty much established fact that the ceiling for codeine metabolism...is anywhere from 400-450mg.....depending on possible differences in liver enzymes, particularly people with an over-active CYP-2D6 pathway....it might be higher for you....but anything over 500mg is a waste.

[hail the poppy]

thank-you swithenewleft.Sounds like swiyou know a little so swim beleive you. So it's safe to say that swim is very lucky because like swim said, one gets SIGNIFICANTLY higher from 800mg than 400mg. But that raises this question in my head:If the body can only deal with 400mgs at one time then theoreticlly an overdose on codeine is not possible?

[eastsidebra]

Originally Posted by hail the poppy

thank-you swithenewleft.Sounds like swiyou know a little so swim beleive you. So it's safe to say that swim is very lucky because like swim said, one gets SIGNIFICANTLY higher from 800mg than 400mg. But that raises this question in my head:If the body can only deal with 400mgs at one time then theoreticlly an overdose on codeine is not possible?

swim has taken 600mg before and felt not much at all, with zero tolerance as well.