Opinions - Best opiate (w/o injection) gives SWIM the best rush

[istayhigh42o]

Just what the title says
SWIM would def say oxycodone insuf.

istayhigh42o added 3 Minutes and 23 Seconds later...

I meant SWIU the best rush

[TheContrivance]

SWIM agrees and this was SWIMs favorite past time... until SWIM met Heroin.

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[Herbal Healer 019]

SWIM likes buprenorphine 4 recreation. When taken intranasally or intrarectally, buprenorphine gives extreme analgesia (what SWIM would think heroin is like) and a good amount of euphoria, especially when mixed with cannabis. Grapefruit juice and butalbital (barbiturate) go good with buprenorphine as potentiators.

Other than that SWIM would have to go 1st and foremost with poppy pod tea/grounds (morphine, codeine, etc..) which some on DF hav described as being the next best thing to heroin, & the closest thing SWIM could compare it to would be buprenorphine.

Hydro/oxycodone are def. next in line, having never tried anything stronger than hydro/oxycodone, poppy pods & buprenorphine in addition to all the weaker opiates/oids SWIM has tried, these give a good rush.

[chillinwill]

Red Rock would have to say that he has found hydromorphone or oxycodone gave him the best rush without being injected

[istayhigh42o]

Originally Posted by Herbal Healer 019

SWIM likes buprenorphine 4 recreation. When taken intranasally or intrarectally, buprenorphine gives extreme analgesia (what SWIM would think heroin is like) and a good amount of euphoria, especially when mixed with cannabis. Grapefruit juice and butalbital (barbiturate) go good with buprenorphine as potentiators.

Other than that SWIM would have to go 1st and foremost with poppy pod tea/grounds (morphine, codeine, etc..) which some on DF hav described as being the next best thing to heroin, & the closest thing SWIM could compare it to would be buprenorphine.

Hydro/oxycodone are def. next in line, having never tried anything stronger than hydro/oxycodone, poppy pods & buprenorphine in addition to all the weaker opiates/oids SWIM has tried, these give a good rush.

yea swim has always wondered what heroin wud feel like, swim thinks (but is prolly wrong) it would feel like being not sloppy but real nice drunk and real nice high off of weed but idk..swim likes that "skidding" feeling where swims bodys feels like intense euphoria and its constanly bein pulled bak wit the real fuzzy vision and the sum1 nodding feeling..

is that anythink like heroin?^

[Herbal Healer 019]

Heroin is probably nothing at all like cannabis or alcohol. Any opiate SWIM has ever tried never gave a drunk or uncoordinated feeling & the euphoria of opiates only slightly resembles that of cannabis minus the feeling of occasionaly anxiety or paranoia.

With opiates {especially buprenorphine, poppy pods, tramadol (for sum ppl), hydro/oxycodone} & probably heroin, the feeling is accompanied with euphoria (not as intense, mentally, as cannabis, but intense in a physical way and slightly psychologically), analgesia (numbness), and a strong sense of contentness (apathy, completeness, extreme sense of well being).

The only way opiates would resemble alcohol in an uncoordinated sense would be if sum1 was nodding in an out of consciousness while trying to walk around or drive. Opiates do sumwhat resemble cannabis when taken orally, but the analgesia is much more pronounced than with cannabis, which also works well for analgesia orally.

[istayhigh42o]

Originally Posted by Herbal Healer 019

Heroin is probably nothing at all like cannabis or alcohol. Any opiate SWIM has ever tried never gave a drunk or uncoordinated feeling & the euphoria of opiates only slightly resembles that of cannabis minus the feeling of occasionaly anxiety or paranoia.

With opiates {especially buprenorphine, poppy pods, tramadol (for sum ppl), hydro/oxycodone} & probably heroin, the feeling is accompanied with euphoria (not as intense, mentally, as cannabis, but intense in a physical way and slightly psychologically), analgesia (numbness), and a strong sense of contentness (apathy, completeness, extreme sense of well being).

The only way opiates would resemble alcohol in an uncoordinated sense would be if sum1 was nodding in an out of consciousness while trying to walk around or drive. Opiates do sumwhat resemble cannabis when taken orally, but the analgesia is much more pronounced than with cannabis, which also works well for analgesia orally.

SWIM has never really had a "real" opiate rush..because swim smokes weed all day and every time swim does an opiate with weed (always) it just gives me swim a rush that kinda feels like the buzzed feeling of bein drunk then again swim has been snortin theze kadians, and hasnt had an oxy in years so i kinda forgot..but swim wud never inject sumthin 2 swims veins so oxys prolly the best ill get

[tryptamaster]

yea once again ill bring it up but insufflated butrophanol is fuckin amazing. if anyone has expierience with this opiod id love to hear wat u think.

[dark12]

SWIM would think the best somewhat obtainable opiate is fentanyl because of its potency. He is not saying this from experience though.

In SWIM's experience, he likes hydrocodone the most. It gives him more euphoria than oxycodone for some reason.

[Ilsa]

Originally Posted by dark12

SWIM would think the best somewhat obtainable opiate is fentanyl because of its potency. He is not saying this from experience though.

In SWIM's experience, he likes hydrocodone the most. It gives him more euphoria than oxycodone for some reason.

swim's cat likes dilaudid (hydromorphone) or heroin insufflated and kratom tea...the former are warm fuzzy and lazy--nice for just relaxing on occasion, while hte latter is relaxing but slightly stimulatory (in the doses her cat takes) and can be indulged on a saturday afternoon while wandering around the woods/mountains or being social (after tea at home of course, no need to draw attention).

just a word of caution: swim's cat says that fentanyl can be fun, but is very potent, up to 80 times the strength of morphine. it's one of the strongest opioid analgesics available, although sufentanil surpasses it by 5 to 10 times in potency. and swim's cat has also observed and read that codeine, morphine and heroin seem to have more "uppity" energizing effects, as all three are structurally related (heroin is simply diactelymorphine and when taken orally is converted to morphine via first-pass metabolism--this is by-passed with injecting, obviously, but swim's cat's paws are tired)