Ingredients in bofu toad venom

[Qish]

Other than 5meodmt of course, what else is in there?



does anyone know a source of the exact ingredients?

[asystole]

The following compounds were identified in Bufo alvarius venom using paper chromatography:


N,N-dimethyl-5-hydroxytrytamine; bufotenine
N,N-dimethyl-5-methoxytrytamine; O-methylbufotenine; (5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltrypamine; 5-MeO-DMT)
5-methoxytryptophol
5-methoxyindoleacetic acid
5-hydroxytryptophol
5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid
N-methyl-5-methoxytryptamine
N-methyl-5-hydroxytryptamine
bufoviridine; N,N-dimethyl-5-hydroxytrytamine-O-sulfate
5-hydroxytryptamine; 5-HT; serotonin; enteramine; thrombocytin; thrombotonin
N-methyl-serotonin
tryptophan
bufotalindin; hellebrigenin; (a bufogenin - cardioactive sterol)



from http://www.bufoalvarius.org/erspamer.htm

[Eirias]

I would think that N-methyl-5-hydroxytryptamine and N-methyl-serotonin would be the same compound, would they not?

Interesting-- I had no idea that there were so many different compounds in the venom. No trace of n,n-DMT though.<!--
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[Qish]

So whats the word on the experience? anyone here tried the toad yet?

[Mike177]

The main compound in it 5-meo-dmt. i have not done it personally but there are several people on this site with reports of smokeing the dyed venom. SWIM was consider getting one of these toads soon, as he is close to the natural habbitat.

[genaro]

note that many bufo species venom contains bufotenine + cardiotoxic substances (poison!)...so you cannot use any specie to get high.


Bufo marinus, bufo americanus, bufo gargarizans, bufo melanosticus, and bufo bufocontains both some cardiotoxines (!!) and bufotenine (slightly psychoactive but also somewhat toxic) so even if their venomcan have some psychoactive effects, better not use these as they can be reallydangerous (there have been a few death reported with such species).


The toad you have to use is Bufo alvarius(aka colorado river toad)which contains mainly 5-MeO-DMT (a powerful psychedelic) and also some bufotenine...this one is said to be pretty safe, and it's the only specie which can have truly powerful psychedelic effects (other species only contain the bufoteninso theyhave muchweaker effects, and as they also contain cardiotoxines they are much more dangerous than the alvarius toad)...


IMPORTANT :


1) Never use the venom orally, better smoke it, increasing the dose veryslowly(it's much less dangerous than ingesting a quantity of venom, especially if you're using anything else than the alvarius specie)


2) Do not fucking kill the toad !!! You can collect the venom without killing the animal. Methods to "milk" the toad without hurting it are explained here: http://www.bufoalvarius.org/almost.htm#sqeeze


3) Two great websites about psychoactive toads:


http://www.bufoalvarius.org/ (the very best toad info here!)


http://www.erowid.org/animals/toads/toads.shtml

[Qish]

thanks so much guys, you two answered every toad question i had.

[Dexy Mcfukfuk]

Originally Posted by genaro

1) Never use the venom orally

Hhahahaahahhahahahahahahaha.


I dont know what but that shit was funny...Im still actually laughing,
and not just to myself, outloud. The idea of someone taking a
venom and thinkign that eating it is how u get high off of it...Ok im
done.



Ive never tried the toad thing, and i dont know who willing i am too,
i just cant imagine that squeezing the fuckers to get their venom out
i all too pleasant to them.


If they bite you is it fatal?

[genaro]

bite isn't dangerous. Venom is on the skin: it's adefensive venom, not offensive. But I heard a few dogs died of taking the toad in their mouth: they were orally poisoned by large quantities of the venom from the skin of the toad.


Some people have been using the venom orally, but there have been a few reported death from using bufo marinus venom orally (marinus beeing much more toxic than alvarius toad)...


that's why first it's much safer smoking the dried venom (rather than licking the toad, uark!), and also that's why you should only use bufo alvarius (other species are dangerous and much less psychoactive).

[Eirias]

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Yes, it's a defense mechanism against getting eaten,
since the toad has few other natural defenses. Very similar to
how certain butterflies are brightly coloured to get potential
predators to notice then, yet they taste very bad to birds, etc.
I'm not sure if the alvarius venom ever kills the potential predators or at least not
everytime (be it a snake or hawk or some kind of mammal)-- for it may
just intoxicate the predator to the point of letting go. There's
another species of frog or toad that has a super sticky glue-like venom
that doesn't kill the snake or whatever, it just fills its mouth with
glue and then the amphibian escapes. At any rate, it's an
evolutionary defense that has allowed the animal to survive,
surprisingly without it also evolving brightly coloured marking to
"warn" the predators (like the poison dart frogs in Latin
America). This would suggest to me (from an evolutionary
standpoint) that the venom of B. alvarius most often did not kill the
predators but simply allowed for the animals escape most of the
time. Then again, it's probably more likely that this species
never developed bright "warning" colour markings due to it's continued
need to remain camouflaged in the desert.


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