Experiences - best for first use?

[necromonster]

SWIM was wondering what would be the most enjoyable RC to "partake"?
i mostly enjoy a opiate/stimulant effect of any narcotic..... but i have a mild case of OCD, so i truly an immersing myself with tons of trip reports, TEK's and almost anything related to RC's.... i am toally stoked about continuing my own research on the effects of various chems that have any narco effect..... personal enjoyment!!~~~~~~~

[cosmicruler]

No1 can answer this question...whats enjoyable for 1 isnt sooo great for others etc...swim isnt aware of very many available RCs that are opiates...keep reading and learning before even contemplating consumption!!!!

[necromonster]

yea, I'm almost positive that their aren't ANY RC's (phens,Pipers, or Trypts) that are opiates...... but i remember reading somewhere, that some 2-c-?? anolouge, affects some opiod receptors in the brain.

[cosmicruler]

there definately ARE opiate RCs,they are just very hard to come accross,and probaly expensive and classified under analogue acts etc in many countrys!!!!

[PsychoActivist]

SWIM's first RC was 2C-E. He enjoyed it very much. He is well experienced with LSD and other psychedelic drugs so he feels it was a good first for him. However, someone with little or no experience with LSD or similar psychedelic drugs may not handle something of the 2C class very well.

Thats pretty much the only RC SWIM has tried so he is afraid thats all he has to offer on this matter.

[RaverHippie]

There's a long trip report around here of someone injecting straight endorphins which in a roundabout way could be considered an opiate RC. It was an extremely interesting report.

2C-T-2 was very newbie friendly when it came to RC's as I'd imagine 2C-B to be as well. Any of the more popular 2c-X chemicals ought to be fine for an introduction, stay away from the DOx class of chemicals as those will give a complete mindfuck for the first time researcher. Not to say people couldn't handle them, it's just a very cautionary warning from my raver friends who tripped for their very first time on a high dose of DOB wishing it was regular LSD.

[tryptamaster]

yea swim acciently ate doi thinking it was lsd and it is NOT for a begginer. and wat people are saying is right, u jsut have to kinda look for what would suit u best...and ideally one with a short duration is best becuse if u have a panic attack or dnt like it it will pass faster than some....for insrance DOx chemicals that last like almost a whole day.

[necromonster]

wow! thanks for all the input! i will deff. take your guys word for the wholw DOx thing. yea i'm looking for a short but intense trip. i also learned something, (the whole opiate thing) i deff. will search engine rape the concept. se what comes up.

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[Cuberun]

m1 is always a good bet if swiy's just init 2 stimit. swim wishes he could have his first, second and third time on m1 back. it sure done did lost its magic by now and swim has retired from it.

necro you should read up on swim usage btw

[necromonster]

thanks, will look into M1. whats the deal with "swim" if someone were to self-incriminate, then y would the forum suffer. some peopple dony really care if they incriminate themselves. but on a lighter note "I" will start to use swim, it just takes some getting used to. and remembering to actually do it. SRRY MODS....

[Cuberun]

m1 is methylone / bk-MDMA, just in case.

as for swim, http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23365

[KomodoMK]

Methylone is a good starting point, and it is quite pleasing, at least the first few times as cuberun has stated. Little fishy would recommend Methylmethcathinone (referred to as Mephedrone in some circles), it's quite an interesting beta ketone compound and worth checking out, and is also quite easily obtainable in/from Europe.

[Cuberun]

yea, swim even gets excited for swinecro still having the first time ahead of him. mephedrone is also legitimate stuff. it's a coinflip on the two really, although swims preference leans towards methylone.

[Wierd Logic]

Squirrel would say 2C-B is probably the best RC for newbies to RCs, but 2C-B should not be taken lightly and shouldn't be taken by anyone without much experience of other psychedelics. It does fit your requirements of short and intense!

[Cuberun]

Originally Posted by Wierd Logic

Squirrel would say 2C-B is probably the best RC for newbies to RCs, but 2C-B should not be taken lightly and shouldn't be taken by anyone without much experience of other psychedelics. It does fit your requirements of short and intense!

psychedelic rc's swiy mean?