Drug info - Smellier = Stronger?

[porchy]

Is it a fact that the smellier the weed, the stronger the weed? SWIM thinks this is the case and from his experience seems to be true.

[tryptamaster]

swim is gonna have to say...yea. haha normally if u cnt smell it thru one baggie its shit..thru 3 baggies is the dankk.

[porchy]

SWIM has been smoking weed for 7 years or so now, skunk full on for the last 4-5 years. He is getting the idea that he can pretty much only get shit weed. He knows when his weed is good, and knows when it is really shit but thinks his standards have been lowered because his weed hardly ever smells through loosely wrapped cling film and takes that as being average weed. Does everyone else usually get the good stuff? He is sick and tired of low grade commercial bollocks.

[tryptamaster]

swim has gotten mexican dirt shit all the way up to very insance varieties of kush and white widow which smell easily thru 3 ziplocs.

[Desertfox]

Originally Posted by porchy

SWIM has been smoking weed for 7 years or so now, skunk full on for the last 4-5 years. He is getting the idea that he can pretty much only get shit weed. He knows when his weed is good, and knows when it is really shit but thinks his standards have been lowered because his weed hardly ever smells through loosely wrapped cling film and takes that as being average weed. Does everyone else usually get the good stuff? He is sick and tired of low grade commercial bollocks.

It may be that SWIY is around weed so much that SWIY is "use" to the smell so it doesn't smell as pungent but to a non-smoker they'd go daaaaaaaaang thats dank.

[crackcityrocker]

in swims experience it seems like a good indicating factor but not necessarily. hes had some weed that upon first inspection seems like it should be pretty good (in part because of how much it reeks) but only ends up being moderate in quality.

[Euthanatos93420]

Agreed. It's a general indicator but not a guarantee. Swim has smoked some stuff he couldn't even smell and it knocked him into a another dimension. Swim has a poor sense of smell but he can still smell a skunk....what? Open the tuppaware? Holy shit that's the weed? Yeah...

[cannabis-sam]

potency and smell are not related but swims guess would be the strong smelling weed is usually the weed that has been hybridized to display certain qualities like smell, potency etc.

Swim bought a couple of grams of some of the smelliest weed he's ever had, he was driving home on his bike with it in his sock and swears he could smell it through the helmet. It didn't dissapoint three bongs and swim passed out for three hours and has woken up feeling stoned still.

So yeah it's more about content of cannabinoids rather than smell but better strains wth high cannabinoid content are more likely to smell nice.

[Nacho]

There are a lot of better factors you could do to determine quality.


Color of the leaf- (brown is usually crap weed and bright green is good)
Color of trichomes- (they should look like cloudy, amber, mushrooms. when they are clear/cloudy and most are standing up straight, they're to young)
Seeds - a good grower will clone plants, not use seeds (using seeds can cause risk of growing males which pollinate females with seeds resulting in less bud)

Leaves- a good grower trims the leaves pretty well
"orange hairs"- the pistols should be kinda orange but when they get brown, it means they're too aged.

cured- if the weed is cured, certain colors may come out from the breakdown of chlorophyll and nice smells come with it too. up to 6 months of curing before it's too old.

if it's aged correctly, the CannaBerGerol (precursor to THC) will break down into THC when curing (increasing potency).



of course, most people's rule of thumb is: if it smells good and looks frosty, it must be good. SWIM sticks to his rules.

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by Nacho

Color of trichomes- (they should look like cloudy, amber, mushrooms. when they are clear/cloudy and most are standing up straight, they're to young)

Actually, peak concentrations of ∆-9-THC occur in trichomes when they are milky white. By the time the trichomes appear amber, a significant amount of the THC has been converted to CBN/CBD, which account for much of the "stoney" couch-lock feelings of indica-dominant plants.

Leaves- a good grower trims the leaves pretty well

True, although the sugar-leaves of high-quality flowers have significant amounts of CBD in them, which can increase the analgesic, anxiolytic, and sedating properties of cannabis. The presence of sugar-leaves on cured flowers is not always a bad thing, in fact depending on the goal of the user, it may be a good thing, especially if they are seeking pain or anxiety relief.

if it's aged correctly, the CannaBerGerol (precursor to THC) will break down into THC when curing (increasing potency).

Cannabigerol (not cannabergerol) is actually not a precursor to THC, it is a product of its degradation, much like CBN and CBD. It is non-psychoactive. However, you are correct in this statement, except that the precursor you are referring to is THC-COOH, which some people refer to as THC-A.

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I don't know how you know so much but I like it!

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

Actually, peak concentrations of ∆-9-THC occur in trichomes when they are milky white. By the time the trichomes appear amber, a significant amount of the THC has been converted to CBN/CBD, which account for much of the "stoney" couch-lock feelings of indica-dominant plants.
True, although the sugar-leaves of high-quality flowers have significant amounts of CBD in them, which can increase the analgesic, anxiolytic, and sedating properties of cannabis. The presence of sugar-leaves on cured flowers is not always a bad thing, in fact depending on the goal of the user, it may be a good thing, especially if they are seeking pain or anxiety relief.
Cannabigerol (not cannabergerol) is actually not a precursor to THC, it is a product of its degradation, much like CBN and CBD. It is non-psychoactive. However, you are correct in this statement, except that the precursor you are referring to is THC-COOH, which some people refer to as THC-A.

Thanks for correcting. I knew that milky isn't bad but if it's milky, it could still be clear but not that noticeable. There's a middle ground in there and it's weird. It's like trying to find the line between orange and brown on a pistol.

[Rhin]

SWIM says often if it smells good it is strong but not all of the time. Right now SWIM has some amazing shit that smells through a bunch of ziplocs so he had to throw it in a container which it still smells through if not closed perfect. SWIM smoked some in his room and then threw it in a fireproof box and his room smelled for 3 days.

This is what SWIM likes to call the good shit because not only did SWIM get high off 1 bowl but he has open eye hallucinations with the stuff that are very noticable and trippy.

[BudGreen18]

swim has always belived this to be true, but swim had some weed this week that wasnt very smelly, but he says it was pretty potent shit.

[VitaminK22]

This is not entirely true because swim has know people spray chemicals on buds to make them smell strong, but when smoked it just tastes and feels like low grade shit.

[vantranist]

Smell is no indication of potentcy what so ever.

SWIM lives down in So cal where Medical Mj is everwhere, Some of the best smokes out there give off less odor than some shitty stress or something.

You get stinky weed, you get not so stinky weed.

SWIM hassen't seen anything specail from buds that smell more intense. He notes no difference in potency.

[porchy]

Smell is no indication of potentcy what so ever.

SWIM lives down in So cal where Medical Mj is everwhere, Some of the best smokes out there give off less odor than some shitty stress or something.

You get stinky weed, you get not so stinky weed.

SWIM hassen't seen anything specail from buds that smell more intense. He notes no difference in potency.

Seems to be a general indicator for people who don't have access to medical cannabis so you cant just dismiss it immediately.

[Bongalong]

SWIM would say generally as a rule of thumb yes but there are exceptions.

[vantranist]

I seriously doubt it.

[sitNthink]

its not just the strength of the smell, but the type (or essence, if you will) of the smell that will help one determine the quality of their green. However the types of smell are difficult to describe in swim's experience so one would have to have smelt nice weed before to be able to recognise not just a good bit of weed, but a great bit.

[vantranist]

Smell may reflect taste and quality, but it is NOT an indicator for potency.

[Matthijs85]

Originally Posted by vantranist

Smell may reflect taste and quality, but it does NOT an indicator for potency.

I agree to this. Smell is not determined by psychoactive substances (at least not only)

[Lethargy]

SWIM has found that the smell seems determined largely by

A.) genetics
B.) growing process
C.) curing process

Of these, A seems like the most important factor for potency, and often breeders selecting for potency will also select for aroma, so a high correlation exists between the two, but SWIM has heard of (and tried once) strains bred for high potency and stealth growing, thus little to no cannabis smell.

He has had cannabis that smelled and tasted great but hardly had any effects, and several times gotten bud that had little or no smell and tasted like lawn clippings but blew his mind. Often a perfectly good strain will end up in the hands of a novice grower who fails to properly cure the cannabis and thus the buds end up smelling "plant-y" instead of skunky.

On the other hand, many growers who have experience have learned not only how to choose high potency strains but also how to cure them to perfection, so generally speaking, SWIM finds that a more pleasant or stronger smell often (90+%) correlates to better quality cannabis.

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This is a good explanation about smell. Would love to read something about actuall smell genetics too :)

[informer_]

Swim had some potent bud which didnt smell only this morning, but the generel rule in the uk is if it stinks then itrs nice bud.

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in swims experience this is true

[deadmoap]

Swim doesn't think smell is good indicator. Appearance and number of trichomes is more important. Stickiness is a good indicator.

[Rezinus]

In SWIM's experience, strong smelling pot usually is potent but not all the time. SWIM had a medical marijuana card for a year and he went through lots of different types of pot. He can recall one certain strain labeled as "Ingrid" that did not smell very strong at all. But it was oh so potent. After smoking "Ingrid" it put SWIM into slow-motion. His speech and physical functions were slowed considerably.
What was weird though, was that the first time SWIM tried the "Ingrid" it did not have much of an effect on him. SWIM actually returned the remainder and switched it for something else.
A short time later, the dispensary SWIM had purchased the "Ingrid" at had a big sale on this particular strain and he purchased some. This time SWIM had a very different experience with it.
I am pretty sure it was the same batch as well, because it wasn't selling very well which is why I think they had lowered the price to move it quicker.

The Kushes that are around have quite a strong smell and they are very potent as well so I don't think smell is a direct indicator of potency. At least in SWIM's experience.