My experience in Japan

[punkanini]

Over the last Summer, I went to Japan with my best friend. In Shibuya (the area of Tokyo from "Lost in Translation") at night, there are all kinds of street vendors selling all kinds of garbage. Some sell bootleg DVDs, some sell fake Rolex watches, some sell clothes, sunglasses, whatever. I found a few selling "drugs". I was low on cash, but was eager to try something nonetheless.


I bought a small plastic bottle from someone (I believe it was 17 mL). It was labeled 2C-I. The dash was a lightning bolt, and the background was blue. The man said there were two doses in it, and that the experience was something like mushrooms. That's the only English I could squeeze out of him. Quite a gamble, I know.


Anyway, I drank half the stuff at about 10:30 PM that night, and felt zero effects until I went to sleep at around midnight. At 2:30 AM, I was dreaming so vividly that I literally woke myself up. I had a crawling sensation all over my body so strong, that I was dreaming (WHILE AWAKE, what the hell...) that I was standing in a Tokyo subway car. This lasted about twenty minutes. Clearly the stuff worked, but it was so ridiculously intense that I wanted to go back to sleep. I couldn't, no matter how hard I tried.


What I did was... I got up, and went for a walk (at 3 AM) around Tokyo. It was extremely pleasant, as my thoughts were racing at about 1,000 mph. I came to massively vast conclusions about life in general, but exprienced little to no hallucinations. I got back to my hotel room at about 4:30 AM, sweating LITERALLY all over my body. I got completely naked, and fell asleep face-first on mycold bed.


When I got back to the US, I took the rest of the bottle a little while later. The experience lasted about 10 hours -- it consisted of orgasm-like crawling sensations, and color-shifting hallucinations. When I looked out my window at a tree, it became a wall of faces -- each one with a twisted grin. I was grinning the entire time, it was so intense. Every minute or so, my body would have an orgasm-like spasm. I wrote a blog about it, and every once in a while I would worry that I would fall off my chair and start convulsing out of pleasure. Since then, though I would kill for it, I haven't been able to get ahold of the substance.


Has anybody bought a 2C in liquid form before?

Was what I bought (from my description) actually 2C-I?

Reputation Comments on this post:

Interesting trip report, however please edit out the self incrimination.

[TelstarTx5]

<DIV>The first experience definently sounds like lowdose2CIand the secound more typical of a low-medium dose.</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Most probally was 2CI but you'll have to get some from a reliable source to be sure.</DIV>

[punkanini]

awesome, thanks... I can't wait to try it again

[transit]

When searching online for sites that sell
Research Chemicals I have come across lots in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Japan</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>. </span>They often state that they will not sell
outside of </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Japan</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>.</span>




Did you get any sense of what it is about
Japanese cultural attitudes that apparently allows for more freedom in this
area?</span>

[punkanini]

That's very strange, I experienced nothing of the sort. Although Japanese culture is very strange, and they have some VERY odd customs, I never picked up on anything that would suggest that.

[freakybass]

In your experience you seems have bought the 2C-I illegally in the
street. I thought in Japan, you can find, in Shibuya for instance, some
smartshops which sells the RCs over-the-counter ?!

[Dimitri]

Yes, there are several smartshops selling RC's in Tokyo. But theses
small street vendors don't sell it illegally. When Shrooms were legal
in J (till June 2002) there were a lot of theses small vendors in
Shibuya as well as in Shinjuku or other parts. It is really</span>
difficult to find drugs on the street, if not impossible. The dealing
on the street is quite unusual in J, you just get stuff from foreigners
or if you know people. I know that quite for sure, because I tried
really hard to find things. There are just these Street vendors,
cause the want to make a quick buissines without paying the high rents
of a shop. I also doubt that they sell fake rolex' & DVDs. Japan is
not India or Thailand, you would get arrested for those things quite
quickly.

I once bought some 5-meo-DMT, 5-Meo-DIPT, 2c-t2 (2002) but much more was available, like 2c-t7, AMT, 5-Meo-AMT,...

It was just incredibly expensive (10mg 5-meo-dmt = about 25 Euro)


Edited by: Dimitri

[lociel]

I live in Japan.
Shibuya is town of many youngers gathering.
Reserch chems sold in open air is lawful substances in Japan.
However, some Iranians are selling ecstasy, marijuana, and meth, etc... on the street.
Shibuya is polluted town by the drug.
The property inspection is very severe now.


Therefore, a new law was enforced in April.
It is a Tokyo ordinance that ban the drug not banned by the
law in Japan.


Sorry, my bad English.

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Thanks for sharing that info. Arigato!

[motorhead]

dont worry about it. that post sounds like some reallycool haiku.

[punkanini]

Hahhaa. Wow, that's terrible.


I am 100% sure they sell fake Rolexes and DVDs there... although it was FOREIGNERS selling them (Iranians, Israelis, etc.)... but only Japanese people were selling RCs.

[Dimitri]

not sure about the fake stuff, might be...just wondering about it,
cause they have really hard punishments for those kind of bisiness.
Maybe it was just simple watches...? As I said, I don't know for sure.

The rc you bought was higly probably the correct one. The bottle &
the solution is actually logical when you consider the fact that most
people don't know how to dose a powder into 15mg, especially during a
night trip through Shibuya. Just made it easy consumable from the bulk
powder.

[punkanini]

Yeah, good point.





Again -- not to be a dick, but I am 100% sure there were fake Rolexes. They were around 25,000 Yen ($250) a piece, and did say Rolex on them. Only Rolexes though. I know my watches -- I collect them.


The DVDs could havebeen fake or not, I have no idea.


But now that you mention it, I do remember Japan having very strict fake brand name laws there. I remember seeing a large diagram at the airport showing how to point out a fake Louis Vuitton purse. It was ridiculous. I don't understand why they place such high value on material possessions. You'd think a country of significantly more intelligent people would have gotten past that?

[TelstarTx5]

Japan has followed the US ideaology too closely to consider the people as more intelligent then the US, otherwise they wouldn't follow! (like many european countries and unfortunately unlike my home Australia)

[Dimitri]

Originally Posted by punkanini

You'd think a country of significantly more intelligent people would have gotten past that?

Yes...ist strange to see for me too. Maybe the problem is due to the
low individuality (kind of high collectivism). If the common sense is
"to consume" most people follow it.

In my understanding I distinguish between the intelligence & the
"level of concioussness" like Ken Wilber & others discribe it.
Although these two things are somehow connected to each other, it is still
possible to have the attitude of excessive material-focusing with a lot of
knowledge & intelligence. We define intelligence more in terms of
"beeing smart", but smart is definitely not suitable for Japanese. Its
more like a analytical & hard-work-based intelligence in my opinion.





PS: Okay...you will be right with the rolexes!

Edited by: Dimitri

[serpent]

that post from japan didnt sound good,it sounded like theyve passed a new law banning drugs that werent banned there before.that could mean rc's and some of them come from over there.

[adzket]

even if they have baned rc's the far east is absolutly rife with drugs of all kinds so even though they may now be illegal you will still be able to get them it may now just be a bit harder to get most of the sites i have come across to get rc's from have been out in the east some where whether it be japan or china hong kong. if your any where in the far east on holiday you should be able to get drugs as they know back packers and travelers are wanting to get high whilest on there joneys of self descovery oror looking forspiritual enlightenment. in any country if you can find a working girl of rent boy you can find drugs and every major town and city in the world has a red light area.

[Hyperreal]

I don't understand why they place such high value on material possessions. You'd think a country of significantly more intelligent people would have gotten past that?

It seems to me that the Japanese are so highly developed that they have nothing to do but engage in such spectacular frivolities. To quote Oscar Wilde, they "live in age age where unnecessary things are the only necessities"

[punkanini]

Well that's a very depressing thought. That suggests that there's nothing beyond what we know other than physical pleasure. Perhaps it's true, I don't know... but their average IQ is fifteen points higher than ours. You'd expect that to havea good impact on the way they think. I suppose that says something about the absolute nature of man?

[Dimitri]

Well...I really like japanese people. The thing is just, that they have
another personality structure than westeners. Meaning they don't have
other personalities...introverted/extraverted and so on ... is the same
- you find the same patterns. Just the structure is different. For
example there is much more "society" inside a single person, so the
rules and the values of the society as well. Less individual
thing....It made me really thinking about myself, full packed with a
lot of unnecessary things, values that I relate to in daily life, that
I call my own. But a big part of them are useless. If I would include
more of my society into myself and everybody would do that, we would
probably have a better world.

I always looked at the Japanese like a big shoal of fishes, acting as a
united system, moving together and so...reaching incredible goals and
perfection.

[Pinkavvy]

Originally Posted by transit

&lt;p ="Msonormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-CA"&gt;When searching online for sites that sell
Research Chemicals I have come across lots in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1lace&gt;&lt; span lang="EN-CA"&gt;Japan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1lace&gt;&lt;/st1 :country-region&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-CA"&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;* &lt;/span&gt;They often state that they will not sell
outside of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1lace&gt;&lt; span lang="EN-CA"&gt;Japan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1lace&gt;&lt;/st1 :country-region&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-CA"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;




&lt;p ="Msonormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-CA"&gt;Did you get any sense of what it is about
Japanese cultural attitudes that apparently allows for more freedom in this
area?&lt;o&gt;&lt;/o&gt;&lt;/span&gt;

when they can sell it just fine within their country legally, why would they take the risk of getting fucked with by the us dea by selling outside of their country where it's illegal. it's not about atitude it's about law and what's easier and safer for them.

for example, swim used to sell weed to just about anybody and believed it shouldn't be a crime. but after swim received a legal medical right to grow and provide to a few patients who named swim as their medical grower, swim no longer sells to anybody other than those medical patients. is it because swim believes in the law all of a sudden and things other people shouldn't be able to get weed? no. it's because swim has no reason to risk his legal operation for ungreatful people by selling them weed without medical documentation. it's safer and more convenient for swim to stay within the laws rather than push outside the laws and into the spotlight of the dea.

[Hyperreal]

Originally Posted by punkanini

Well that's a very depressing thought.

Really? I always thought it was pretty groovy.


I may go to Tokyo next summer. It sounds like the most insanely futuristic place on the planet. Levitating trains, intelligent clothes, robots, and drugdealers selling 2C-I on street corners! Outstanding!

[Dimitri]

Yeah it definitly is a insane place in any kind of way - definitly a
little trip even without drugs. I would safe them for homesessions

Look out for some smartshops in Shibuya, they have a bigger choice,
some nice rare botanicals (Iboga...) & some good RCs. But you
probably get a shock when you see the price...really heavy!

[punkanini]

THEY HAVE IBOGA THERE?!


Man, oh man... I guess I am doing a year abroad after all.