Effects - Immune to the effects of LSD?

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So 2 of SWIM'S friend each took a couple hits of blotter lsd and both of them are most certainly feeling the full effects. SWIM however has taken (his first time BTW) 5 hits over a 3.5 hour time span and has yet to feel anything..... what's the deal?
Is it possible to be immune or does SWIM simply need to take more?

Also, is there any possibility that a small dxm intake several hours before hand may have rendered the LSD useless for SWIM?

[T.D]

Does SWIY have OCD by any chance? I've been reading psychotherapy by Stanislav Grof, and he suggests that people with strong OCD tendencies can be affected very little/not at all by doses of LSD even up to 10,000 mcg ! I'm not sure how true this statement was or what empirical evidence he had for it now, but it could be a possibility you could look into.

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Originally Posted by T.D

Does SWIY have OCD by any chance? I've been reading psychotherapy by Stanislav Grof, and he suggests that people with strong OCD tendencies can be affected very little/not at all by doses of LSD even up to 10,000 mcg ! I'm not sure how true this statement was or what empirical evidence he had for it now, but it could be a possibility you could look into.

Ha! as a matter of fact SWIM does have mild OCD but not bad enough for medication. SWIM does however have severe ADD.

very interesting, thanks for the reply!

[MindNRA]

A week ago I would say impossible but now I am not so sure. I have a friend who took acid five times. First three it worked fully like a charm. Fourth and fifth were higher then normal dozes which worked barely or none at all. I think the mind has a way of blocking the acid sometimes. I don't know why but its very strange that it worked on my friend first few times and then just stopped. People who did take same batch all tripped hard so its not the substance but the person.

[ScorpioSunshine]

There have been times when Swim has taken it with her friends (all at the same time) and they feel the effects much sooner than she. There have been times when it's taken Swim up to 3 hours to feel the effects, though that was relatively rare considering how many times Swim has used.

[Votorx]

Maybe you are. It surely is possible, SWIM believes he's immune to many uppers such as cocaine, amphetamines and crack.

Its also possible swAm didn't have the right mind set. The mind can put up incredible resistance to intoxicants, whether conciously or not. For instance there have been countless times when swIm was rendered completely sober from very intense intoxications. From weed and alcohol to shrooms, acid and ecstacy swIm has learned many drugs can be rendered useless under the right mind set.

swIm recommends swAm tries LSD again and to make himself forget he took the hit. If possible maybe swAm can get one of his TRUSTED friends to dose him with LSD unexpectadly one day when swAm is able to spend the rest of the day tripping. To do so would guarantee (in swIms opinion) an intense trip. If swAm anticipates the trip, it may never come. Remember. Mind set.

If that doesn't work (and swAm's sure he's taking real LSD) then maybe you are...

[MindNRA]

Votorox, WTF? No. DO NOT, under any circumstances doze anyone OR yourself without notice. That is a guarantee for a bad trip.

Yes, mindset has a lot to do with it so just distract yourself somehow but do not go with, oh sh|t, why are things moving? Oh buddy, thats cause I put some acid on your bread !!! No, just no.

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Thanks for this. Dosing the unsuspecting is rape, pure and simple

[RaverHippie]

I know DXM has some weird/nasty interactions with serotonergic drugs. This could have proven to be a harmful interaction if my memory is correct.

[Votorx]

Originally Posted by MindNRA

Votorox, WTF? No. DO NOT, under any circumstances doze anyone OR yourself without notice. That is a guarantee for a bad trip.

Yes, mindset has a lot to do with it so just distract yourself somehow but do not go with, oh sh|t, why are things moving? Oh buddy, thats cause I put some acid on your bread !!! No, just no.

No need to be so close-minded buddy. What may not work for you isn't guaranteed for everybody else. Of course, if he didn't desire the effects of acid then this would be a very bad idea. As well, if he took it during a time when he would otherwise not take acid (as I suggested he shouldn't) then that would most surely constitute a bad trip.

Otherwise, the idea is simple. If he decided to try it obviously he would be expecting the unexpected and otherworldly effects of a drug, even if he didn't know when. Personally I think the effects of acid are very distinguishable and before he actually begins tripping he would already know something was wrong. Of course all this relies on the judgment of whomever he decides to trust to dose him, but if this person is truly trustworthy then he would choose a time in which the dosee would otherwise have taken acid willingly, in which case the desired affects would accompany a desirable time to trip.

In other words (in case you didn't get it the second time). His friend would have to be trusted to be able to choose 1. A time in which the dosee would have otherwise knowingly and willingly tripped and 2. A time in which the effects of the drug wouldn't put the dosee in danger (like driving). As well I would expect that such a friend would inform the dosee of what he took once the effects began taking place in which case the dosee can thank him for supplying him with the drug he would have taken anyways, understand?


I only suggested it because it works. I cannot stress enough that you choose somone who won't fuck you over and knows you well enough to make such decisions. If you cannot take such precautions for your own well-being then yes, this is a very bad idea you should not attempt it.

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Dosing someone with psychedelics without their explicit consent is unacceptable

[Jatelka]

Vortox: Dosing the unsuspecting is mental RAPE. No excuses, it is not acceptable under ANY circumstances.

Do NOT pass go!

[Votorx]

Originally Posted by Jatelka

Vortox: Dosing the unsuspecting is mental RAPE. No excuses, it is not acceptable under ANY circumstances.

Do NOT pass go!

Huh?? How would it be unsuspecting when he's the one who needs to both initiate and approve of it before his friend doses him? And to do so would clearly be accepted by him...so to whom is this unacceptable?


Under no means am I suggesting someone dose another person whom neither wants to be nor has any prior thought of it. In fact, in no way shape or form have I implied someone do that in any of these posts. If this is a plan in which he wishes to follow through with, clearly he's CHOOSING to be unsuspecting but by no means would it be against his will ... I still fail to see the problem...

Here lets try another example. Lets say you really want a car but you can't get it. You hint at it to people, but never expect anyone to actually buy it for you. One day you come home to a new corvette sitting in your driveway. Is this wrong?

Clearly that and drugs are two very polar examples, but in the end if its what he wants (which would be clear if he were to go through with it) then what is dangerous or wrong about it?

[ScorpioSunshine]

What the other swimmers are trying to convey is probably something like this:

Assume said chemical was methamphetamine as opposed to LSD. One agreed that they would be dosed at an unsuspecting time to test the effects.

Swimmer takes a drink laced with methamphetamine (hypothetical). Oh shit! Swimmer is pumped and thinks he's having a heart attack...or swimmer has consumed lots of caffeine earlier, or taken something else which may have a harmful effect when mixed with said chemical, so on...

Set and setting, if not proper, can have a great impact on one's experience. If swiy is in the proper set and setting, then he knows he is going to be dosed, so what's the point? Just be properly prepared instead of coming up with some
experiment that may prove harmful.

Logically, if all factors are favorable and swiy knows and is technically not being dosed against his will, then doesn't that kind of negate the entire purpose? If not, the alternative is that swiy will be unsuspectingly dosed at some point that may be completely inappropriate.

Swim understands what swiy is trying to convey, but swiy needs to think this through and understand where swimmers are coming from on this.

It's a bad idea, and could cause harm, which is quite the opposite on what swimmer's are trying to do here. Never, ever dose someone when they don't expect it, even if they agree. Bad idea, sorry.