Opinions - Can Heroin change a persons personality?

[Sib]

SWIMS GF would say yes and it's not a good change, so what do SWIMS think?

[ScorpioSunshine]

One's personality could change in the following ways:

One could change while using, as one would be likely to not give a sh*t about anything while enjoying his nod and may become a piece of furniture while high, thus pissing off his gf if she's not into it.


One could then go back to being "normal" after coming down

One could then decide to use again and could eventually form a habit which he may or may not be able to control.

Assuming he could control use, it may not cause too much of a change except when he is using.

Assuming one formed a controlling habit, it could cause his personality and personal/social habits to change in less positive ways.

Where is swiy's use now and what basis does his gf have for her opinion?

Negative changes : obsessing over drugs, stealing, lying, dope sick, anger, withdrawing from people, spending money one cannot afford to spend, etc.

Oh, that's the really short list! Can swiy give a bit more info?

[Randomdanceing]

[QUOTE=ScorpioSunshine;507541]One's personality could change in the following ways:

One could change while using, as one would be likely to not give a sh*t about anything while enjoying his nod and may become a piece of furniture while high, thus pissing off his gf if she's not into it.


I want to become a peice of furniture.

[EyesOfTheWorld]

Heroin, and opiates in general, themselves, do not change one's personality any more than any other drug. It is the desperation of withdrawal that can alter a personality. Basically, chipping will not change a person, except making them temporarily apathetic during the nod, whereas addiction most definitely can and will, as the problems of others will become a minor or nonexistent care to a person who is covered in sweat, puking, shitting, shaking etc etc. When in such condition, one is unlikely to give a fuck about the "petty" problems of loved ones, friends, partners etc. This is not the true personality of the user speaking, it is just the desperation of withdrawal. Monkey will have to quote another member here again (he thinks it was swiyD.T. but could be wrong) in saying that "a man on fire is incapable of thinking of anything but the fact that he is on fire".

[gmeziscool2354]

well becoming a very heavy user on any drug can cause a change in personality. Somebody recons that if one were to go from being a non-user of marijuana to a quarter a day toker ones personality would change. SWIY can't see how occasional use of H can do anything drastic like that, but as we all know, H is a tough drug to use occasionally.

SWIM thinks that H is one of the more addictive street drugs, and users get addicted quite quickly, and since narcotics can change people while they are under their influence, it may be possible for some one to appear different during a period of H binging.

my cousin is very sick and in a lot of pain. she is on 20-40 mg's of oxycodone a day to help with her pains (kidney stones, very painful) she is defintly still the same person, but she is much slower and has less short term memory. My sister doesn't know much about drugs, and thought that there was something really wrong with her when we last hung out. We explained that she was just really doped out

[Spare Chaynge]

swim thinks that once some one uses heroin for a while the body would stop producing its own dopamine and quitting would result in a a lack of dopamine possibly leading to a personality change.

Getting on heroin resulted in a personality change for this swim too.

[CrookedEye]

SWIM's answer would be definitely, especially with any regular use..

[teddybearpicnics]

swim thinks he agrees with scorpio...sadly...just being miserable from dope is a personality change...it's a whole lifestyle revolving your day around it. definitly a differnt person from before swim started using...
.teddy

[rogerrinseout]

Yea swim believes so. Swim thinks that one can become quite confident but at the other end swim became a terrible liar to an ex-girlfriend, lies that he wouldn't have dreamed off trying to pull off before the gear.

[humdroid]

Clistoffa never did heroin. He has many friends who did.
He wants to ask, purely from what he perceives of his friends,
"When on H, is it impossible to view things from other peoples perspective?" kind of like an anti-empathogenic drug?

[ScorpioSunshine]

Originally Posted by humdroid

Clistoffa never did heroin. He has many friends who did.
He wants to ask, purely from what he perceives of his friends,
"When on H, is it impossible to view things from other peoples perspective?" kind of like an anti-empathogenic drug?

Swim doesn't think so. She thinks it depends on the level of use and the person. Swim personally never experienced that. It didn't change swim's empathetic nature at all. Now, swim definitely saw others that fit swiy's description.

Part of it was the nature of who they are (for some of them) and for others it was simply being in the grip of something that consumed them. There wasn't room for anything else. But swim can honestly say that it's not like that for all users, not at all.

Is swiy having a hard time with friends?

[InstantKarma]

Originally Posted by humdroid

Clistoffa never did heroin. He has many friends who did.
He wants to ask, purely from what he perceives of his friends,
"When on H, is it impossible to view things from other peoples perspective?" kind of like an anti-empathogenic drug?

I think so. At least in the sense that it makes people able to lie to anyone and not really feel guilty about it. Swim notices she starts to do this when she starts getting bad with dope again, and sees the same thing happen with her bf.

[Sib]

Thanks for the replys, SWIM asked because he has been having relationship problems that have resulted in SWIM ending a 7 year relationship today but because of being on the gear SWIM has thought long and hard about the breakup so it's not an ill judged decision, well if anything I guess the gear numbs the heartache a little.

[dyingtomorrow]

SWIM would say, it depends.

Heroin fills a certain kind of hole for some people, and makes them ambitious and outgoing and more relaxed. All around better. SWIM feels like the only reason people seem to get worse on heroin, is because when you run out of money but are physically dependent, it is a VERY VERY EXTREMELY frightening and stressful way of living. This is going to make anyone a little darker, but some kinds of people who are already kind of "bad" or, IOW, inclined to take things out on other people in the fullest meaning of the concept (blaming, abusing, stealing, etc.), tend to blame their behavior on the H. SWIM thinks the actual chemical is far less involved in the changes than the persecution, social demonization, stress, financial terror, etc. that surround H use for people who can't afford it.

[InstantKarma]

Originally Posted by dyingtomorrow

SWIM would say, it depends.

SWIM thinks the actual chemical is far less involved in the changes than the persecution, social demonization, stress, financial terror, etc. that surround H use for people who can't afford it.

Swim very very much agrees with this. Many of the changes one sees in people who are heavily addicted stems from the fact that they need to base their whole day around it and cant just get high without all of the other major stressors.

However, swim feels there are some aspects of personalilty that change ssimply because of the chemical. For example, over time (read: not at first) people's creativity seems to wane.

[maletwickenham]

Swim would say it depends as well but does know of people who have changed a lot.
Swim knew a girl that was very well lively and well active and stuff. Swim did not see her for a few years because she moved. Swim then saw her again and talked to her and she is nothing like her old self. She openly offered sex in exchange for money or drugs. Sex acts Swim remember asking her about and her views before was to never do them. she also seems not up for anything, Swim offered to pay for her to go to see a movie or go out some time and she was not up for it and just asked for the money. Swim feels this is just because she is a addict although she has changed.

[Junkhead23]

Of course heroin can change people. Or the desperation for heroin can change people. For instance SWIM had never stole in his life until about 6 months ago when he started IV'ing heroin. Also SWIM was always honest before the heroin. It started by ling to friends and famil about his heroin use. This then spread to lying about other things such as going out (to get money) and it is indeed a slippery slope. SWIM also thinks it depends on those SWIY hang around with. When SWIM started IV'ing he started knocking about with other people who regularly stole and got away with it. This made it seem normal to SWIM over ime which then lead to him doing it. Similar thing with IV'ing SWIM would never have done it if he hadn't seen others doing it and making it seem really normal.

[Spare Chaynge]

Its always hard to say cause and effect, so many factors...

Was it heroin that changed his friends or was it something else... maybe it was the things that made your friends think doing heroin was a good idea combined with heroins effects on the neurotransmitters.

But heroin can definitely be a factor in a personality change.

[yaba]

Swim was inocent(ish) until he discovered heroine at the age of 13... It changed the person he was from then on..

[teddybearpicnics]

Damn, discovering smack at 13? Swim had stolen a vicodin or two from his pops, but that was as far as his drug usage went at that age. Swim was more intrested in getting his first pussy and playing basketball. Is swiy still on it?

[yaba]

Originally Posted by teddybearpicnics

Damn, discovering smack at 13? Swim had stolen a vicodin or two from his pops, but that was as far as his drug usage went at that age. Swim was more intrested in getting his first pussy and playing basketball. Is swiy still on it?

No not for years 13 till 17 and a 7 month spell at the age of 19. And first pussy at 13/14 too ! Swin never had vicodin gant get it over here...

[Methadrone]

Yes swim thinks it definately changes a person's personality and for the worse. Swim only does gear now and again now (thankfully) but if swim has it for 2 to 3 days running swim will get annoyed at the smallest things and this isn't like swim and swims family and freinds notice, hence the reason swim only uses H as a 'treat' now as swim had a terrible habit a couple of years ago.

Swims thinks it's bloody nice though, and that my swiy is zee problem

[m.swinehart81]

Originally Posted by Methadrone

Yes swim thinks it definately changes a person's personality and for the worse. Swim only does gear now and again now (thankfully) but if swim has it for 2 to 3 days running swim will get annoyed at the smallest things and this isn't like swim and swims family and freinds notice, hence the reason swim only uses H as a 'treat' now as swim had a terrible habit a couple of years ago.

Swims thinks it's bloody nice though, and that my swiy is zee problem

Getting cranky after using is called a hangover or dealing with withdrawls. This doesnt mean it has changed your personality. A person that never touches heroin can get cranky sometimes.

In swims opinion, NO, it cannot change your personality. Your the one that changes your personality. Not the drug. People choose to let themselves fall into addiction and they allow it to consume them. If you allow it to happen it will. Its not gonna do it if you dont let it!

People need to learn to take control over their lives and they need to learn to take responsibility for their actions as well!!

[Junkhead23]

Originally Posted by m.swinehart81

Getting cranky after using is called a hangover or dealing with withdrawls. This doesnt mean it has changed your personality. A person that never touches heroin can get cranky sometimes.

In swims opinion, NO, it cannot change your personality. Your the one that changes your personality. Not the drug. People choose to let themselves fall into addiction and they allow it to consume them. If you allow it to happen it will. Its not gonna do it if you dont let it!

People need to learn to take control over their lives and they need to learn to take responsibility for their actions as well!!

Completely agree with this. Heroin doesn't rob old grannys people do. It's like what they say about guns

Guns don't kill people people kill people

[cra$h]

every day people change. Every day there's a new experience, and we adapt accordingly. Heroin, just like any other drug, is an experience, but heroin just seems to be a big one. And the bigger the experience, the bigger the result. This same question could be asked after a good dose of LSD, war, or even alcohol. Now if it's for better or worse ultimately depends on the person, and their current situation and the perspective they percieve it at. Heroin could be that cooldown after a hard day, something to do on the weekend, or your life. Each changes a person, either way.

So to answer your question: Of course it changes people, just like any other big experience.