Combinations - opiates (suboxone) and marijuana

[cobetcknncoio3]

This was a very nice mix. I had never thought of smoking some pot while on Suboxone, but I was pleased with the way it turned out. The two drugs seemed to really compliment each other, and just when I thought I couldn't feel any more perfect than I did while on the Suboxone, I experienced an even greater state of peace and euphoria than I had with either cannabis or Suboxone alone. Although I have never tried smoking pot while on any opiates other than buprenorphine, I would guess that smoking pot on hydrocodone or oxycodone would be pretty similar to what I experienced. All in all, the combination of cannabis/buprenorphine was really good, and the next time I get some Suboxone, if I have any weed, I definitely will repeat this, rather than take the Suboxone alone. The best way to enjoy an opiate, I would say, would be to smoke some cannabis with it. However, someone with less experience with either opiates or marijuana should probably try both of those seperately first, or else the powerful feeling that this combination causes might be too much for them to handle.

[Herbal Healer 019]

Yes indeed, cannabis definately potentiates buprenorphine or any opiate 4 that matter, sometimes the euphoria from the cannabis can over power the opiates in terms of cerebral high (mental buzz) but the body buzz (analgesia) from the opiates seems much more pronounced.

Many ppl say that buprenorphine has little recreational value, but for some it does the job.

Read the rules about self incrimination

[infekt]

whenever swim smokes a little pot on opiates (usually heroin, but also buprenorphine, vicodin, and oxycodone in the past), it potentiates the opiates beautifully. There is a great synergy between cannabis and opiates. It really helps initiate a nod type of high. Add a LITTLE bit of some benzos to the mix, and it is almost perfect.

[cobetcknncoio3]

i totally agree, and it definitely does the job for SWIM. the reason so many people don't like bupe is because they take the whole tablet, and it makes them puke and then pass out. you gotta take a little chip, not the whole thing lol. in SWIM's opinion, if taken in the right dosage, it has great recreational value, and creates a very intense high. i usually take a third of a pill, and not very often, since buprenorphine is such a rare treat for SWIM. but hey, maybe it's an acquired taste, like caviar personally though, SWIM is suprised that there are other people on here who've had buprenorphine, SWIM thought it was a pretty obscure drug. how much of it does SWIY take, and how often, if he doesn't mind SWIM's asking? can SWIY handle anything more than half a pill? and how does he deal with the nausea, other than laying down (which is all SWIM can do to ease it)?

[infekt]

Swim took buprenorphine for 6 months, 8mg a day. It was prescribed for getting and staying off of the smack. Little did swim know about the type of withdrawals he was in for.

Swim has never really gotten a euphoric/recreational effect from buprenorphine, probably because by the time he started taking it his opioid tolerance was way high. However, he did notice a slight enhancement of effects when he smoked cannabis. He can imagine what it may be able to do to a person without much of an opiate tolerance.


and yes it does taste like SHIT!! That's why swim never swallowed shit, he would just spit out the juice once the pill was melted. I've heard that swallowing the remaining shit isn't really all that necessary for maximum effect. Swim never noticed a difference anyway

[teddybearpicnics]

Originally Posted by cobetcknncoio3

i totally agree, and it definitely does the job for SWIM. the reason so many people don't like bupe is because they take the whole tablet, and it makes them puke and then pass out. you gotta take a little chip, not the whole thing lol. in SWIM's opinion, if taken in the right dosage, it has great recreational value, and creates a very intense high. i usually take a third of a pill, and not very often, since buprenorphine is such a rare treat for SWIM. but hey, maybe it's an acquired taste, like caviar personally though, SWIM is suprised that there are other people on here who've had buprenorphine, SWIM thought it was a pretty obscure drug. how much of it does SWIY take, and how often, if he doesn't mind SWIM's asking? can SWIY handle anything more than half a pill? and how does he deal with the nausea, other than laying down (which is all SWIM can do to ease it)?

swim is a heroin addict and is on suboxone for maintenence...so swim is not going to be much help for the questions posted, he just wanted to add that for him, it does not give him any high at all...even if he would take 3 whole tablets it would get him nowhere. it takes his w.d.s away but that's it. swim even tried injecting it and it just felt weird. but for non-tolerant individuals he has seen quite a few people nod and get really fucking tuned on it! wish that could be me because swim has a whole bottle of them right next to him. BE CAREFUL with opiates...they'll turn your soul black.
.teddy

[cobetcknncoio3]

well, the only way SWIM can put it is the most powerful euphoria that any opiate has ever given me, and SWIM would definitely say one of the most powerful things he has ever taken - it totally blows SWIM away when he takes a half of a pill (which is a lot for SWIM) - he just lays there, sinking into the couch, and there isn't a person or thing in this world that can touch him, no matter what, because he feels the warm, perfect buprenorphine chemically-euphoria washing over his consciousness and totally covering him like a thick blanket.

cobetcknncoio3 added 3 Minutes and 16 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by teddybearpicnics

swim is a heroin addict and is on suboxone for maintenence...so swim is not going to be much help for the questions posted, he just wanted to add that for him, it does not give him any high at all...even if he would take 3 whole tablets it would get him nowhere. it takes his w.d.s away but that's it. swim even tried injecting it and it just felt weird. but for non-tolerant individuals he has seen quite a few people nod and get really fucking tuned on it! wish that could be me because swim has a whole bottle of them right next to him. BE CAREFUL with opiates...they'll turn your soul black.
.teddy

holy crap, three tablets!!! lol that would probably KILL swim, who can barely stay conscious after a half a tablet! SWIM guesses it's because he barely ever gets his hands on any opiates. and apparently, any route of administration for buprenorphine (at least for suboxone) won't work, except sublingual. SWIM's tried taking it orally, snorting it, then eventually he read somewhere that suboxone only works if you melt if under your tongue.

[infekt]

Originally Posted by teddybearpicnics

BE CAREFUL with opiates...they'll turn your soul black.
.teddy

wise words.


swim's always been jealous of people that could feel suboxone.

[Herbal Healer 019]

Originally Posted by cobetcknncoio3

i totally agree, and it definitely does the job for SWIM. the reason so many people don't like bupe is because they take the whole tablet, and it makes them puke and then pass out. you gotta take a little chip, not the whole thing lol. in SWIM's opinion, if taken in the right dosage, it has great recreational value, and creates a very intense high. i usually take a third of a pill, and not very often, since buprenorphine is such a rare treat for SWIM. but hey, maybe it's an acquired taste, like caviar personally though, SWIM is suprised that there are other people on here who've had buprenorphine, SWIM thought it was a pretty obscure drug. how much of it does SWIY take, and how often, if he doesn't mind SWIM's asking? can SWIY handle anything more than half a pill? and how does he deal with the nausea, other than laying down (which is all SWIM can do to ease it)?

The ppl in a friend of a friend's area who obtained the bupe also took the whole thing or 2 & 1 found themselves high as fuck confused & vomiting for a day then bieng nicely high the next. The friend of the friend got a bomb ass deal trading ultrams for 3 8mg bupes. They're really not that hard to come by, it's all about knowing those great bring home to the parents crib & chill heroin addicts type friends. This friend of a friend ussualy doses at .5-1.5mgs. SWIM has yet to try 2mgs 4 a rec. dose. They ussually dose twice a day 4 an all day high but sometimes find themselves nausiated on the second dose probably cuz of buprenorphines long halflife.

Originally Posted by Infekt

Originally Posted by teddybearpicnics
BE CAREFUL with opiates...they'll turn your soul black.
.teddy

wise words.

With opiates the key is all about spacing "trips" out 3-4 days 2 keep the tolerance low & no1 suffers. Opiates are a godsend. & it's bullshit they're laced with acetaminophen half the time & the worst thing is evry1 knos acetaminophin eats ur liver alive & yet they still add it.

[cobetcknncoio3]

wow dude, SWIM doesn't think he'd be able to handle an entire pill, let alone more than one. no kidding, they were probably puking their brains out, SWIM feels like puking whenever he takes just a half.

oh, and another thing: does anyone else feel like it's reeeeaaally hard to pee while on bupe, or the day after using it? it's like SWIM can feel the pee right there, and really really needs to go, but it just will not come out, unless SWIM sits there for a half hour listening to water trickle out of the sink lol.

[infekt]

Originally Posted by Herbal Healer 019

With opiates the key is all about spacing "trips" out 3-4 days 2 keep the tolerance low & no1 suffers. Opiates are a godsend.

This is much easier said than done. I'm sick of people saying shit like this, like it's so easy to chip. Not when it comes to heroin, and definitley not when it comes to IV heroin. Nobody wants to become an addict, you think swim and everybody swim knew started off not thinking about spacing doses, etc, etc?


Sorry got a little heated there. Second time today someone said some shit like this to me and it just has been irritates me.

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	Agreed. Never even tried heroin and this sounds like it would be difficult.
	true dat

[cobetcknncoio3]

well i've been spacing out my buprenorphine dosages for over a year now, and it seems to work out just fine for me. and i apologize if i was acting naive earlier in the heroin thread i started, it must be frustrating to try and tell someone something that you know a lot about and that they know nothing about, and have them not listen, but i assure you that i did, and appreciate your info on it. but with the situation that me and the guy who sold it to me are in right now, the time between occasions where he'll get heroin are going to be veeery long, probably months. so i feel that the situation in which i'm trying the heroin is pretty controlled, and a good opportunity to try something new and and reflect on its effects, which is all i wanna do with any substance. again, i apologize if i was being asinine or naive.

[infekt]

Hey man, it's my bad, I just got irritated. You're questions are totally valid, I guess I just let my immaturity get the best of me.

[cobetcknncoio3]

no, it's all good, no biggie. i'm just glad i talked to some people who have experience, i mean i was thinkin of snorting a line of heroin (like a coke-line sized one), and it's good to know not to do something like that, and listen to the words of wisdom of people who know.

[JDreaming]

Pot synergizes with just about anything.

[Herbal Healer 019]

Originally Posted by infekt

This is much easier said than done. I'm sick of people saying shit like this, like it's so easy to chip. Not when it comes to heroin, and definitley not when it comes to IV heroin. Nobody wants to become an addict, you think swim and everybody swim knew started off not thinking about spacing doses, etc, etc?

Not tryin 2 call u out, but SWIM was not refering to heroin or IV, guess he should hav clarified when he said 'opiates'. Im sure heroin is probably way more addictive than most pharmaceutical opiates & opium, especially when IV'd. SWIM has seen IV addiction 1st hand & it killed sum1 he knew. This is y SWIM avoids injection alltogether.

Is intramuscular as addictive as intraveinious? This is how SWIM's friend started out with heroin & it eventually led to IV then death.

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by teddybearpicnics

swim is a heroin addict and is on suboxone for maintenence...so swim is not going to be much help for the questions posted, he just wanted to add that for him, it does not give him any high at all...even if he would take 3 whole tablets it would get him nowhere. it takes his w.d.s away but that's it. swim even tried injecting it and it just felt weird. but for non-tolerant individuals he has seen quite a few people nod and get really fucking tuned on it! wish that could be me because swim has a whole bottle of them right next to him. BE CAREFUL with opiates...they'll turn your soul black.
.teddy

SWIM too wishes he could get high on suboxone. All his friends he gave it to seemed to get high as fuck and love it, on just 2mgs. SWIM is on 2mgs (but has his doc thinking he's on 16mgs) - SWIM got down to 1 mg once, and found that at 1 mg, he was able to get high and nod on 6-8 mgs; but not on anything than a lower tolerance than 1 mg (SWIM's impression is that there is a huge difference between 1mg and 2mgs, but a small difference between 2 mgs and 16 mgs even). Injecting it most of the time made SWIM feel disgustingly dirty, or gave him a 6 hour migraine. SWIM has heard from other places tho that some people really like shooting it; but mostly subutex they are talking about.

[cobetcknncoio3]

would taking suboxone intranasally work? SWIM heard somewhere that suboxone is made in a way so that it only works when taken sublingually.

[cra$h]

suboxone and weed, what a mix! Swim took 1/4 of the orange-octagonal pill(first time trying) and had a bowl cap. Couldn't walk. Swim layed in a tub, since he was in an unfinished house, and just smiled, nice and wide, and how funny it was when swim's friend, blazed as hell, came up and started laughing at swim laying in this tub, comphy as it gets

[cobetcknncoio3]

yeah, a quarter was SWIM's first time too, and it knocked him out. now, a third of a pill usually does the trick for him. anything less doesn't do much, and anything more does too much.

anyway, the times SWIM tried suboxone orally and intranasally (1/4 of a pill) didn't work, but he isn't sure he crushed it up enough, and back then, he was very inexperienced at snorting, sucking so deep that it went straight to his throat. if he tried it again, doing it correctly this time, maybe insufflating it might do something.

[cobetcknncoio3]

Originally Posted by cobetcknncoio3

yeah, a quarter was SWIM's first time too, and it knocked him out. now, a third of a pill usually does the trick for him. anything less doesn't do much, and anything more does too much.

anyway, the times SWIM tried suboxone orally and intranasally (1/4 of a pill) didn't work, but he isn't sure he crushed it up enough, and back then, he was very inexperienced at snorting, sucking so deep that it went straight to his throat. if he tried it again, doing it correctly this time, maybe insufflating it might do something.

well, after a couple nights ago, SWIM can confirm to anyone who doesn't know, snorting crushed up suboxone DOES work, and it is potent. personally, SWIM doesn't think he'll ever take it sublingually again after this.