Injecting - Speedball

[Junkhead23]

SWIM is thinking about having a speedball but is unsure of how much cocaine to use and also does it matter if it is crack cocaine? SWIM is an injecing opiate user already and an occasional user of crack cocaine.

[fiveleggedrat]

Crack cocaine has to be broken down into the hcl form to be injected. What is it people use, citric acid? Don't use lemon juice or anything organic! Just saying in case Swiy does not know. Citric can be found at a grocery store.

As for dosages, Swim knew people who SB'ed with around .1 to .2g of cocaine, but cocaine varies extremely widely in purity. What is it, like 5-95% depending on where Swiy lives in the world?

Purity of coke needs to be determined before hand, either by acetone wash or cooking to crack and then back.

Swim would suggest taking 1/2 of Swiy's normal H dose and 1/2 of Swiy's normal coke dose, but Swim is only estimating, and not speaking from experience. Swim does not mix ups and downs.

Hope something in there helps!

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good reply with the way to go

[ScorpioSunshine]

Swim has speedballed in the past. She cannot remember the quantities, but she does know she didn't do it much. A few times maybe? Once? Twice? Who knows...

But swim does know it was wonderful, but not wonderful enough for her to ever try that again. Swim is asking that you be careful and seriously think this through.

However, if swiy is determined to try it, read this entire thread:

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/s...ead.php?t=7957

It may give swiy some insight.

[teddybearpicnics]

swim used 1 bag of good gear, and about a tenth of good scaley coke...now swim has had a tolerance to each drug, and was a heroin addict for about 3 years...this could kill anybody, and these are by NO means directions...the only advice swim can give...is to not do it. swims mom has a co-worker, and her son shot up a speed ball 2 months ago for the first time and now he has locked-in-syndrome...he is trapped in his body and can't do anything but blink and stick out his tongue...but he can comprehend the outside world...that's a worse nightmare than being tortured to swim, almost like chinese water torture...so, be very careful.
.teddy

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scary! good advice.

[Benniboi]

with a speedball the most important aspect of this blissful cocktail is to thoroughly understand and respect your opiate tolerance, because it is a well known fact that you can overdose by shooting more than you should without realising because of the coke high. The coke should first be crushed and drawn up through a filter in a cold water solution. cooking the coke with the heroin will cause it to turn into an oil and thicken the mixture- possibly clogging the barrel of the syringe and potentially causing all sorts of problems with blood clots, dvt etc, so be careful. Prepare the coke first- draw it up and then cook the heroin with citric seperately ,then draw the gear up into the same syringe, but be careful- the anesthetic properties of cocaine can cause you to damage your veins as it stops you feeling any pain whilst shooting. but if done right- is a great high!

[MarkyMayhem]

SWIM was always of the impression that if 'God' made anything better than a speedball, he kept it for himself!!!

Be safe, keep it small at first.

And be VERY aware of what SWIBenninoi said about vein damage. The coke will numb you good, so make SURE SWIY got a good hit before pushing it home.

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agreement on vein damage as it is vital to keep it in mind when safe shooting

[electrolingus]

If SWIY feels that a speedball is the way to fly. SWIY should start off with a very small amount of coke only. After this, SWIY'll pretty much know how much to do. The trick is to use just enough coke to feel it but not so much that it kills the heroin. Just a word of caution. Injecting coke is a very serious thing. Unlike H, some people do coke every 15 or so minutes. SWIM has seen people LOOSE THEIR MINDS from days of coke binging. It causes the most bodily damage of any other injected drug except for maybe meth. Also, coke can be cut with just about anything. If the coke does not disolve completely in a few second in warm water, it has cut in it. The risk of phlebitis at the injection site is also something one wants to be aware of, not to mention heart damage.

[UNIBLACK810]

Speedballing is the ultimate high. However as posted above one SWIY should really watch your dose. SWIM IM's not IV so im not really shore about that. Also SWIM mixes a good bag of H with about half that of C and snorts. IV is direct line so SWIY has to be careful. For SWIY"s first time SWIY should try theses methods first to see how SWIY feels. Dont believe for a sec that it is a waste because this method is still a woderful high. SWIM has a very high tolerance and SWIM gets of like this.