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Old 29-11-2008, 02:01
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Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

What are different methods of dealing with the comedown?

The worst part... d;
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

SWIM is by no means an expert in dopamergenic drugs, but SWIMs theory is that naturally when your brain is releasing loads of dopamine to get you really motivated it expects an endorphin release (reward at achieving what you set out to do) to terminate the sequence properly, otherwise it means you didn't achieve what you set out to do (which leads your brain to make you feel bad (for wasting so much time and energy)).

SWIM would never take one drug to avoid the negative after-effects of another, so SWIM does two things;

1. SWIM fights the effects head on by consuming food and liquids (not too much if SWIY doesn't feel like it) and then going for a long walk (which SWIM finds really helps).

2.SWIM eats some chocolate to get a natural endorphin release going (SWIM does this while on his walk).

hope this helps .

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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

There is a similar thread to this one at the top of the main page of this topic. There are a few different ideas discuss in there if you're still interested.

There was one post that mentioned someone liked taking a Melotonin, which is an over the counter, all natural sleeping pill and maybe combined one of those with either a vicodin and/or a beer.

That does the trick for some it seems, and they are a little easier and legal to get a hold of compared to somethings
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

SWIM gets the most extreme comedowns on Ritalin he's ever had. SWIMs back is killing him right now for some bizarre reason and this is part of the Ritalin comedown when it wears off SWIMs backaches and headaches will vanish as usual. Is it normal to comedown only 2 hours after snorting a few lines? Alright SWIMs not gonna lie he took 160mg in the space of an hour but these comedowns are something else. Redosing at this point only makes matter worse and adds another few hours onto his comedown.

MercuryDrinker added 1 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

SWIMs not completely at the mercy of these comedowns though cuz alcohol counteracts the comedown.

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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

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Is it normal to comedown only 2 hours after snorting a few lines? Alright SWIMs not gonna lie he took 160mg in the space of an hour but these comedowns are something else. Redosing at this point only makes matter worse and adds another few hours onto his comedown.
Sounds about right, snorting has an effect very quickly and wears off very quickly, comedown after 2 hours doesn't sound unusual... Dunno how effective snorting 160mg in that timeframe would be, the body can only absorb so much powder through the nose, so unless one was doing some lines, waiting 15 minutes, rinsing their nose, doing some more lines etc, one may not actually be absorbing all the methylphenidate...
Some other threads seem to point to the idea that 30-40mg works best for snorting, and that much more than that is a waste.
One could consider taking 10-20mg orally before they snorted their main dose, and perhaps (because oral use onset takes longer) they would be getting a bit of the oral dose as they were coming down off the snorted dose, possibly making the comedown less noticeable?
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

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Sounds about right, snorting has an effect very quickly and wears off very quickly, comedown after 2 hours doesn't sound unusual... Dunno how effective snorting 160mg in that timeframe would be, the body can only absorb so much powder through the nose, so unless one was doing some lines, waiting 15 minutes, rinsing their nose, doing some more lines etc, one may not actually be absorbing all the methylphenidate...
Some other threads seem to point to the idea that 30-40mg works best for snorting, and that much more than that is a waste.
One could consider taking 10-20mg orally before they snorted their main dose, and perhaps (because oral use onset takes longer) they would be getting a bit of the oral dose as they were coming down off the snorted dose, possibly making the comedown less noticeable?
Swim finds that snorting ANY amount of methylphenidate is a recipe for disaster. Swim did less than a 10mg line of methylphenidate and a few hours later swim felt like shit. He has done bigger lines of methylphenidate before and stopped when he realized how bad the comedowns were. He figured heck, if 30-40 mg were bad, then 10mg probably is fine. WRONG!

Swim reckens that comedowns from snorting methylphenidate are near the worst, if not THE worst comedowns from any drug swim has done. Swim would say it is worse than coke(yeah WTF seriously), amphetamines, dirty pills, worse than the empty feeling you get when your roll is over(even on mollies).

Swim usually snorted the XR kind because of less binders and fillers. He never really got bad comedowns from the pills but he thinks that has to do with some pills gelling and therefore getting poor absorption. Swim would also use the pills mainly with friends and would always smoke ganj then go to sleep after most of the effects had worn off.

Sublingual absorption for methylphenidate is probably the best way to ingest. Well, the colon is probably better, but that is too much work for swim and not nearly as "socially acceptable".




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SWIM is by no means an expert in dopamergenic drugs, but SWIMs theory is that naturally when your brain is releasing loads of dopamine to get you really motivated it expects an endorphin release (reward at achieving what you set out to do) to terminate the sequence properly, otherwise it means you didn't achieve what you set out to do (which leads your brain to make you feel bad (for wasting so much time and energy)).

SWIM would never take one drug to avoid the negative after-effects of another, so SWIM does two things;

1. SWIM fights the effects head on by consuming food and liquids (not too much if SWIY doesn't feel like it) and then going for a long walk (which SWIM finds really helps).

2.SWIM eats some chocolate to get a natural endorphin release going (SWIM does this while on his walk).

hope this helps .
  1. INTENSE exercise for 1-2 hours will restore swim's mood back to 100%. However, getting the motivation to go workout when swim feels like shit can be hard.
  2. Going on a long walk( 30 mins+) really helps swim, especially if it is sunny. Swim will also take 1-2g of L-Tyrosine to help restore dopamine.
  3. Ganja
  4. Sleep.
  5. Benzo's help as well.


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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

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Swim finds that snorting ANY amount of methylphenidate is a recipe for disaster. Swim did less than a 10mg line of methylphenidate and a few hours later swim felt like shit. He has done bigger lines of methylphenidate before and stopped when he realized how bad the comedowns were. He figured heck, if 30-40 mg were bad, then 10mg probably is fine. WRONG!
Hmm the same exact thing happens to SWIM. Its rough because SWIM snorts large quantities every day so endures these insane 5 hour comedowns on a daily basis. Swim tried taking Ritalin orally a few times and didn't notice ANY comedown. SWIM put it down to coincidence though. Obviously its no coincidence if its not just SWIM experiencing this. These are no ordinary comedowns either SWIM struggles through them and sometimes he doesnt know if hes gonna survive it.

MercuryDrinker added 6 Minutes and 36 Seconds later...

These comedowns ARE the worst comedowns SWIMs ever experienced hands down. Coke comedowns are nothing compared to these. Only thing even almost comparable are meth comedowns but even meth comedowns are a joke compared to these Ritalin crashes. Swim just had one that lasted longer than ever about 6+ hours. SWIM always feels like one tough bastard for surviving these comedowns but he'll tell you one thing he doesn't feel very tough while hes in the midst of them.

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Old 24-04-2009, 22:51
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

Make sure SWIY keeps himself well nourished. That helps SWIM a lot with the comedown. He just dinks a lot of water and tries to eat at least a little food.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

Vinylmesh has some awesome ideas there! Although, I'm not sure swim could manage to eat or go for a walk after snorting ritalin. swim is bad and usually smokes a couple bowls and takes some benzos if it's needed badly enough.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

best thing to do is drink alot of water while doing rit. and when you are finished drink Ensure or Slimfast easy to drink and gives you nureshment

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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

Swim likes to have a few beers during a ritalin comedown. For him, if he has ritalin in his system still, it makes him high again (ethylphenidate+40%concentration increase of methylphenidate to the brain). If not swim gets drunk feels good, goes to bed, wakes up and is fine if not happier the next day.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

Ritalin comedowns are the worst... My cat usually just end up taking some zopiclone or syrequel to knock herself out. Zopiclone in particular is great for comedowns, as it acts similarily to a benzo and makes u feel comfy and pleasant and you fall asleep very quickly even from just one pill.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

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2.SWIM eats some chocolate to get a natural endorphin release going (SWIM does this while on his walk).
Swim knows of a much better way of giving your brain the opiate release it craves. It sounds a little crazy, but it's not a joke.

When a comedown struck swim he used to get stuck into some pr0n on the internet for a good hour (or more). Afterwards he'd suddenly realise his comedown had completely dissappeared.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

yeah, a nice light workout, a bit of choclate and some masturbation is fucking great, you won't even remember you are comming down

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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

swim would say save some concerta intack and take them after your flight. so your fall isnt without a parachute of some sort.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

Whenever swim comes down from focalin he just takes more focalin but if u cant do that swim would stay hydrated (plenty of water) and usually play a game (that doesn't have drug references) to keep swims mind off
the fact he's coming down. Swims favorite way of coming down though is with zolpidem (Ambien) but thats just swims opinion
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

  1. INTENSE exercise for 1-2 hours will restore swim's mood back to 100%. However, getting the motivation to go workout when swim feels like shit can be hard.
  2. Going on a long walk( 30 mins+) really helps swim, especially if it is sunny. Swim will also take 1-2g of L-Tyrosine to help restore dopamine.
  3. Ganja
  4. Sleep.
  5. Benzo's help as well.
BENZOS are a must in SWIM's opinion if he's going to take Ritalin. Don't leave home with a head full of Ritalin if you don't have a pocket full of Xanax/Valium/Klonopin...pick your benzo. Plus, I totally agree with the exercise and the tyrosine (but the tyrosine after the Ritalin has worn off.

Another very good helper is alcohol...a couple glasses of red wine or some beers really do the trick...but be careful not to mix the benzos and the booze
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

how swim deals with the comedown is i drink alot of water to rehydrate the body, then swim smokes a cigarette or two, then listen to some music and relax, or play a game that you easily get sucked into, that way it takes the mind off the comedown
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

SWIM has been doing ritalin for about 4 months everyday. SWIM sticks to about 30mg swallowed and 20mg snorted per day, dosing from about an hour after getting up to an hour before bed, SWIM tries to keep the doses regular. Sometimes there is a bit of anxiety, food and sugar usually help keep the edgyness away. Also SWIM is perscribed to Zopliclone, and has been long before Ritalin came into the picture. SWIM has no comedowns, but now wonders if SWIM just never comes down?
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

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  1. INTENSE exercise for 1-2 hours will restore swim's mood back to 100%. However, getting the motivation to go workout when swim feels like shit can be hard.
  2. Going on a long walk( 30 mins+) really helps swim, especially if it is sunny. Swim will also take 1-2g of L-Tyrosine to help restore dopamine.
  3. Ganja
  4. Sleep.
  5. Benzo's help as well.
BENZOS are a must in SWIM's opinion if he's going to take Ritalin. Don't leave home with a head full of Ritalin if you don't have a pocket full of Xanax/Valium/Klonopin...pick your benzo. Plus, I totally agree with the exercise and the tyrosine (but the tyrosine after the Ritalin has worn off.

Another very good helper is alcohol...a couple glasses of red wine or some beers really do the trick...but be careful not to mix the benzos and the booze
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AWESOME ADVICE GUYS,, THANKS.. this is walrus first time on ritalin, 40-50mg snorted over 3 hours... Well to be honest,, and picking up on what an early poster said,, I'm lying,,walrus first snorted 10 mg this afternoon and wont be buying it again cuz walrus got anxiety problems with it being the only thing in its system. Anyway walrus is the same with weed and a lot of uppers if he goes from straight full into it,, but rits made the walrus shake and not feel at all easy. However walrus thought he'd give it a proper blast tonight,, had a few beers with the Ritalin which walrus spaced doses of out a bit..walrus took tramadol (400mg) as well WHICH IS NOT A GOOD COMBO IF YOU DONT HAVE A BENZO like valium to reduce very real chance of seizures.. Actually nah,, its just not a good combo period - the rits overpower the trams and Valiums,, so walrus wont be doing this alone anymore..
Oh yeah and man walrus fuckin hates this but does anyone else get a REALLY horrible feeling when you stand up and the blood rushes down your body and you feel in a real nasty no-mans land? walrus got that real soon on Rits,, it'd normally take me a week on pills/K,, but first time? well its a real wake up call to knock that shit on the head for walrus . Since then Id say the trams and couple of Vals are keeping walrus pretty on a level now though,, at least keeping the anxiety disorder at bay,, but really,, bottom line is Rits and Trams are IMO a pretty crap combo as Rits= no Tram nod,,and if you havent got a benzo to reduce SERIOUS seizure risk dont go near this combo period...walrus was stupid, hope walrus learns she's only made for downers sometime soon.

Walrus is really gonna try and keep up with the above advice as its got to see peeps tomorrow. It reckons a shower, a multivitamin, chocolate,walk and wanks sound advice.

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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

Smoke a cig. eat some chocolate, you have to keep your mind stimulated so think about your favorite hobby walk around while on speed dont sit there the crash starts from boredom mainly or your bodys doing all this pointless work and your just sitting there watching tv
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

SWIM thinks Ritalin crashes are HORRIBLE, but benzos are always a must! For SWIM, Ritalin leaves her feeling anxious, despressed, paranoid, etc., but within 45 minutes of taking some Ativan, Klonopin, or Xanax, SWIM feels extremely happy and relaxed. If SWIY does not have any benzos, opiates like OxyContin and Vicodin will help, but are not quite as good as benzos.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

The only time SWIM has has a come down was when he snorted 60mg to motivate him to do outside work (mow 3.5 acres with a push mower) after he got done he just laid there and the come down hit him but when he got up and got on yahoo messenger and started talking to people Swim felt fine. Usually SWIM snorts then to stay up to do school work or motivate him to do outside work. Swim thinks its a physiological thing because when he is focused on something then he nave notices a come down. My Advice would be go online and read something you find interesting (for Swim its either drugs or workout routines), read a book, watch something interesting on tv/movie, or play video games.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

@Horse

The comedown will always bite sooner than you want or anticipate it to be.
And comedowns suck in ways that would kill a vacuum cleaner.
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Re: Methylphenidate Comedown (Ritalin, Concerta)

The comedowns from MPD are incredible to SWIM - easily making coke comedowns look like fun, but SWIM never had a supply of benzos, opiates, alcohol - basically SWIM just had to take it head on, a horrible feat for SWIM.

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