Culture - Drought of good MDMA in the UK?

[Wierd Logic]

All Monkey has seen for the past three or four months has been utter rubbish, and he was told that the problem was a national one. Anyone else finding the same issue? At this rate, Monkey is going to just use pills, something he said he wouldn't. The only good MD he's found apparently was fresh out of Germany.

Is there a drought? Monkey is in the midlands.

[drugsnbass]

Yeah, The Russian's been having a hard time finding some too in yorkshire ... don't know what the fuck's up

[Fantasian]

SWIF has found bits and pieces but it's definately more difficult to come by. He got some stuff not too long ago that was black in colour, that said the high still felt good and clean.

[Wierd Logic]

Its odd, Monkey would think that it would be quite a localised market, with small chemists churning out stuff for a local area. Monkey has also been told that the government has tightened up with the watching of the precursor chemicals, but this is just hearsay. Anybody heard anything else?

[drugsnbass]

Well The Russian thinks that yeah it could be a localised market...but by the looks of it he really doesn't know what to say...meh...just hope for the best...MDMA for The Russian is the best thing in the whoooole fuckiiiiing world mate hehe

[aerozeppelin123]

Hmm yeah this has been SWIM's experience as well. A few months back it was all that good sandy coloured crystally stuff, recently it's been that chocolate-coloured rock-hard stuff which SWIM hasn't tried yet but heard it's crap. Pretty annoying, hope it goes back to normal soon

[Qualityplant]

Swim has noticed a slight dip in mdma standards but no cessation of supply in London. Swim recently linked someone for some excellent pills though...

[drugsnbass]

Originally Posted by Qualityplant

Swim has noticed a slight dip in mdma standards but no cessation of supply in London. Swim recently linked someone for some excellent pills though...

The Russian wishes you were here haha

[Wierd Logic]

Yes, pills seem to be business as usual. Monkey would probably advise them as the best source of MDMA at the moment, if swimmers can find good ones. They could always do an acetone wash and get the pure product...

[Routemaster Flash]

Yup, someone had some pretty no-nonsense pills in London just recently, no complaints there.

[_mase_]

swim hears that good mdma is around in the midlands, apparently whiteish not brown.

[Aar0n]

SWIM hasn't had any problems obtaining MDMA in crystal form at all in the UK.

[rocksmokinmachine]

SWIM is in the UK at the moment and haver had no trouble obtaining good crystal MDMA at all.

Don't bother with the pills 95% of them are piperazines

[magicmik]

Swim is in England about the middle. End of the Sept to Oct there was a short supply. Rumor was over 100kg was busted. But then again that was a rumor lol. Now things here are fine. still slightly brownish crystals (swim would prefer properly washed white ones; but hey) in plentiful supply .

[KomodoMK]

Little fishy prefers the light brownish crystals because the quality is still really high for the most part, he has found the white crystals tend to be cut more.

[magicmik]

Yeah maybe little fishy could be right about the cutting, it would be easier to disguise in the white powder/crystals. Never the less the chemical description for pure mdma is as a white crystaline substance. An acetone wash could clean the brownish crystals but swim has never tried.

[Schwindlig]

SWIM is also having problems. After being able to get good off white MDMA from a few different people, now SWIM can't get anything for love nor money, apart from 1g of fine browny crystals the other day, but now that person has also dried up! SWIM lives on the south coast and is hungry!

[Fantasian]

Has anyone any experience with these dark brown coloured crystals?

[geezaman]

Droughts in a synthesized substance are less likely to be actual droughts in SWIMs opinion, that is unless demand is very low and so production ceases. Droughts in drugs such as cannabis are alot more realistic as climate conditions can damage masses of pot and there i usually a small drought summer to autumn as 1 years crop is used up and the next is not ready.

It is however much more likely for some supply chains to run dry, SWIM is aware that himself and people he knows in the Midlands (UK) who usually receive good or very good ecstasy in pill form recently got something with very low ecstasy content and something else, or just another substance sold as E.
The pills gave few rushes and very little very mild mood lift, no euphoria.
CEVs existed towards the end of the experience, from about 5 hours in. Empathy was not noticed either, nor particular wishes to talk or be "cuddly".
Slight to mild nausea existed throughout the experience and the feeling of being buzzed and not wanting to, or being unable to sleep was extensive and long lasting even when alcohol and cannabis were added. The feeling of being awake even when preceded by a long day and little sleep the night before existed for about 10 hours from 2 pills taken at the same time.

SWIM would suggest he had consumed a piperazine blend, but if he had it was the kindest yet with least body load and most pleasant effects compared to many legal blends SWIM has tried.From his previous experiences wonders if it was not BZP and another chemical, or a research chemical.

SWIM can only conclude that being an unknown pill sold as ecstasy that he hasn't a clue WTF was in it, but is sure it was not just MDMA

EDIT-
1) A further reason he believed the pill may have had a piperazine content was because of an odd acidic/chemical taste left in the back of the mouth and throat, note this was not just after the pills consumption but throughout the experience. This to SWIM has been a trademark of use of piperazine and piperazine containing products.
2) Although images displayed and colour of pills give no indication of their contents, for reference these pills contained a Rolex mark, were relatively tall and where white with light speckling

Peace
Geezaman

NB-The above is a combination of opinions of SWIM and two friends who tried the pills. One friend did not agree with the effect of inability to sleep, but had been sleepless on amphetamines the night prior.

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by geezaman

Droughts in a synthesized substance are less likely to be actual droughts in SWIMs opinion, that is unless demand is very low and so production ceases. Droughts in drugs such as cannabis are alot more realistic as climate conditions can damage masses of pot and there i usually a small drought summer to autumn as 1 years crop is used up and the next is not ready.

It is however much more likely for some supply chains to run dry, SWIM is aware that himself and people he knows in the Midlands (UK) who usually receive good or very good ecstasy in pill form recently got something with very low ecstasy content and something else, or just another substance sold as E.
The pills gave few rushes and very little very mild mood lift, no euphoria.
CEVs existed towards the end of the experience, from about 5 hours in. Empathy was not noticed either, nor particular wishes to talk or be "cuddly".
Slight to mild nausea existed throughout the experience and the feeling of being buzzed and not wanting to, or being unable to sleep was extensive and long lasting even when alcohol and cannabis were added. The feeling of being awake even when preceded by a long day and little sleep the night before existed for about 10 hours from 2 pills taken at the same time.

SWIM would suggest he had consumed a piperazine blend, but if he had it was the kindest yet with least body load and most pleasant effects compared to many legal blends SWIM has tried.From his previous experiences wonders if it was not BZP and another chemical, or a research chemical.

SWIM can only conclude that being an unknown pill sold as ecstasy that he hasn't a clue WTF was in it, but is sure it was not just MDMA

Peace
Geezaman

NB-The above is a combination of opinions of SWIM and two friends who tried the pills. One friend did not agree with the effect of inability to sleep, but had been sleepless on amphetamines the night prior.

Sounds like what little fishy and some of his contacts have had, which turned out to be mCPP. Little fishy thought he would try pills once again, but it only further pushed him towards only using crystal MDMA.

[geezaman]

Hmmmm, interesting.
SWIM has tried crystalline mCPP from a trusted supplier a number of times at different dosages, and has also combined mCPP with MeOPP a number of times, and on a separate occasion with what he considered good ecstasy.

Each of these experiences involved physical illness at some stage and mild to bad nausea almost throughout, the visual effects were also quite forceful, linked with this there was in SWIMs experience quite a heavy body load.

In comparison the pill SWIM describes in his report had many more similarities with Ecstasy. Interestingly SWIMs first reaction was whether the the pill may have combined mCPP with MDMA and some other drug to reduce nausea, but SWIM has come across no such nausea reducing drug that would not have had its own effects.

From SWIMs experience with mCPP he does not believe this was the main contents of the pill.

SWIM has edited the end of the previous post with a few other details.

SWIM does not wish to send this thread off topic and into speculation over un-tested pills contents and only posted his report here as a possible occurrence/evidence of an MDMA drought.
On the 12 or so times SWIM has encountered crystal MDMA he has considered it of very low quality, and would suggest that crystal is easier to cut at every transaction than a preformed pill, in comparison over the past 5 years 70%+ of the occasions he has used pills the pills have been good or very good.

SWIM intend to bite the bullet and buy a long over due pill testing kit for Christmas, following his long overdue donation to this second home.

Peace
Geezaman

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by geezaman

On the 12 or so times SWIM has encountered crystal MDMA he has considered it of very low quality, and would suggest that crystal is easier to cut at every transaction than a preformed pill, in comparison over the past 5 years 70%+ of the occasions he has used pills the pills have been good or very good.

Little fishy has never encountered bad MDMA as of yet and used on a number of times. The pills between 2004-2007 were of awesome quality but as of late, both fishy and everyone he knows seems to think the quality has dropped off rapidly.

It's strange you should mention Rolex imprinted pills, as that is the logo imprinted on some of the ones suspected as being mCPP. They were well pressed, almost too well as they were VERY VERY hard to break up. No speckling was noticed though. Not that it means shit, as could easily (although unlikely) to be a completely different batch.

[Wierd Logic]

Originally Posted by _mase_

swim hears that good mdma is around in the midlands, apparently whiteish not brown.

SWIY hears right!

[lovejoy]

Originally Posted by Schwindlig

SWIM lives on the south coast and is hungry!

This other guy told me that he has seen the brown crystals dry up slightly on the south coast too over the last 6 months.

[Raz]

Originally Posted by KomodoMK

It's strange you should mention Rolex imprinted pills, as that is the logo imprinted on some of the ones suspected as being mCPP.

A mixture of mCPP, amphetamine and phenacetine has been confirmed in some Rolex imprinted pills.