Oral use - Consuming uncooked cactus

[analogger]

so far swim is having absolutely no luck with the boiling method here: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66565 he tried some blended cactus and somehow the frothiness was just offensively awful to his body. so he was wondering, what if he were to stop at the step where the foam combines with the water in the pot, and drink that? would that be dangerous in any way? is there any reason not to?

thanks in advance.

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i should mention, one of swim's friends ate a 300-gram piece of this particular cactus and tripped pretty hard.

[divinecacti]

Swim sees no mention of peeling the waxy skin off or cutting around the white bits.

Swim recommends you dont slice your cactus into stars. Peel the skin off (cut the spines out first). Then cut the green meat away in strips, leaving the soft white and the core behind. The waxy skin and the white meat contain the majority of the stuff responsible for nausea. The areoles (where the spines come out) contain strychnine, an alkaloid swim wouldnt recommend anyone consumes.

The green meat can be treated like a vegetable then, san pedro salad? Or place it in the freezer, after a few hours the ice crystals while have destroyed the cell walls. It doesnt need such heavy blending then. Most importantly dont boil it, let it simmer in water with a dash of lemon juice.

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That reputation comment is correct to my disbelief. I did a little digging and its a myth. Dont believe everything you read on the internet! =P

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there is no strychanine in cactus

[dirt]

Perhaps swiyou is using the wrong cactus there are many species that look a lot like San Pedro but do not contain any psychoactive chemicals. I did want to comment how ever on the presence of strychnine the last thing I read which debunks this myth would be the psychedelic encyclopedia. Swim has done it this way: using a juicer to extract the juice all the skin and pulp is separated in case you are worried about the supposed strychnine just drink the juice. The outer skin which is waxy is easily seperated from the fleshy pulp so swiyou can eat the pulp in small spoonfuls. It might also be wise to take the spines off with fingernail clippers prior to juicing.

[slownerveaction]

I have heard that one thing you can do is to cut the plant material into strips (including the wax and core), freeze it, and then push it through a Champion Juicer as frozen logs with the homogenizing plate installed. The product can be heated in a microwave to get it un-frozen and then boiled to "recombine" the foam with the aqueous layer. (Really you're just denaturing all the protein and DNA in the homogenized material - once this happens, the protein loses it's properties as a surfactant.) The pH is around 5, which is low enough to protonate the amine and extract it into solution. Cool this material at room temperature and then filter off the solids, preferably with a cheesecloth. Using loose-mesh disposable filter cloths works, but you need to squeeze pretty hard to get all the water out and the disposable filter cloths with rip much easier.

It will still taste like ass, but AFAIK most PEAs (including mescaline) have an intrinsic nausea property. Smoke a bowl, it'll go away.