Injecting - About to inject

[BigWillyStyle]

SWIM is about to get some coke from a guy who is, shall we say, a little flexible on the quality of his product. SWIM plans on injecting it IV. What is the best thing SWIM can do to purify it as best as possible using basic household items including qtips, and what exacxtly are the chances of death?

[chillinwill]

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[Dr. Rockzo]

The first time SWIM IVed coke (just a few pinches) SWIM's pulse sky-rocketed to over 200 bpm, got acute tinnitus (loud metallic ringing in the ears) and was probably going in and out of ventricular fibrilation (very bad). SWIM made the mistake of cooking it and not filtering it. SWIM thought that since it was such a small amount that filtering it would just waste the shot. SWIM was a fucking idiot. SWIM was also alone (also very stupid). SWIM was unable to speak any words, just frantic noises. SWIM truely felt he was going to die. SWIM swore off IV coke. 5 months later SWIM decided to try it again. This time SWIM used a VERY small amount. SWIM didn't cook it, and used a rolled-up piece of a cigarette butt as a filter. SWIM felt the best rush of his life, yet it only last a few seconds. SWIM then turned into a human pin cushin for the next hour, redosing every minute or two until SWIM began to vomit uncontrollably. SWIM doesn't IV coke anymore.

[BigWillyStyle]

thanks for the replies. SWIM got the stuff, which turned the water opaque with some shit floating on top. SWIM put a qtip top tightly rolled in the mix, cooked real thoroughly and it got clearer. But when SWIM tried to suck upp into syringe, the mixture became opaque as it cooled in the meantime. SWIM could not suck up any liquid!

Though, at some point, SWIM does remember having a syringe full of liquidized "cocaine" that was perhaps cooked just right (this endeavor was attempted many times), but when came time to inject, plunger wouldnt budge. If SWIM pushed realyl hard, a slow drip would start. So here SWIM is with a needle in vein, just pushing on the plunger as hard as SWIM can to get it to move ever so snail slowly, when suddenly a revelation hits....

If the plunger lets go, the amount of force SWIM was exerting would likely blow the vein up. So SWIM gave up. Upon further inspection, the coke had chunks of like glucogen or something, sweet solid chunks of cut, and was in fact really shitty. So the needle probly, and luckily, didn't work because there were solid particles of undissolved cut in the solution to block passage through the needle. SWIM is very grateful for this fact.
Now if SWIM could only find some H!

[dyingtomorrow]

Sorry if this goes without saying, but you used a cotton right?

[BoxStar]

There is plenty of info about purification in the forum as other lab monkeys have pointed out.

The chance of death with IV cocaine is pretty high compared to other drugs, but it’s impossible to say a figure because of tolerance variability and individual cardiovascular status; asystole (commonly known as “flatline” on an ECG) can happen because of cocaine local anesthetic effects on the myocardium this is the worst since defibrillation cannot be used, it usually means death.

Myocardial infarction can happen because the sudden and severe vasoconstriction, this can also cause typical strokes.

Another cardiac risk is ventricular fibrillation, which can be treated within the next 10 minutes by defibrillation but can easily result in death; cocaine can also cause ventricular tachycardia which can progress to fibrillation.

It can also cause hemorrhagic strokes when used IV; which carries a dismal prognosis, respiratory failure and hyperthermia which can cause renal failure.

These “complications” can happen with any administration route, but IV use increases the risk a lot, most overdoses and fatalities happen because IV use.

Cocaine dissolves in water almost instantly, everything that does not is cut, the mix should be filtered and the final solution in the syringe should look completely clear.

DO NOT COOK COCAINE, its not necessary to dissolve, it wont kill bacteria and it will help cuts dissolve, which will solidify in the syringe or maybe in the brain/lungs/heart which may kill SWIY.

When injecting start with about 25% of usual snorted dose inject half the solution and wait 5-10 seconds, until it can be “felt” (in a low dose the train may not come depends on individual tolerance), if there is a strong “train” sound and what could be described as strong “fear” sensation wait a few more seconds, if they get too intense, pull out, when using higher doses the “train” sound is the best indicator of how strong is the flash, always inject half and wait, finding the best dose requires slowly testing higher quantities and should be a careful and slow process.

Injecting cocaine is extremely addicting and very dangerous, it’s nothing to play around with, be informed of all the risks and think carefully before making a decision about slamming coke.

[BoxStar]

The intensity of the “train” marks the boundary between an optimal flash and an overdose, SWIM has jumped on the train many times w/o overdosing and has also overdosed several times because the difference between the perfect flash and an overdose is very small.

It’s impossible to describe, but a too strong train sound means too much coke which equals very high risks, SWIM had the most massive sound ever during an overdose, he could not even stand up, let alone walk, speak or think, the only reason he did not die is because he was pre-loaded with benzos.

The intensity of the flash increases the risks no matter what.

[BoxStar]

The intense fear that can be felt with the “train” is because the massive buildup of adrenaline which causes “fight or flight response” such a response can cause panic disorders or post-traumatic stress disorder, SWIM thinks SWIY overdosed for real and that left a permanent “mark”.

Slamming regular doses too often is the most typical path to overdose, cocaine effects over the body last longer than the flash.

“The train can pick you up, but you can’t chose the destination or just runs over you, the difference can be a mere 20mg”

It’s hard to tell others what they are getting into because unless they felt it they will never know what its like.

As for speedballs, “the ultimate journey and the most dangerous”; experience with both cocaine and heroin is essential before even thinking about mixing them.

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nice posts!

[BoxStar]

An overdose is defined as exceeding the normal or safe levels causing adverse side-effects, since the train “ran over SWIY”; said in other words; it was completely overwhelming, causing extremely unpleasant sensations, which caused metal problems, it’s an overdose.

It’s not necessary to have a heart attack, seizures or end up in ER to qualify as an overdose; the ones that have those things tend to be the most massive overdoses, but those effects also happen in users who take small doses, coke is a very individually-tailored substance and its effects can vary dramatically between different money labs.

The key of a speedball is intravenous injection, mixing stimulants and opioids by other administration routes gives a nice “pseudo-speedball” feel, but the rush of an intravenous speedball is impossible to describe.

SWIM recommends to research about IV use of any substance to know what to expect and its dangers before slamming anything, the needle is a one-way trip, there is no turning back from it.

[BoxStar]

Originally Posted by Dr. Rockzo

The first time SWIM IVed coke (just a few pinches) SWIM's pulse sky-rocketed to over 200 bpm, got acute tinnitus (loud metallic ringing in the ears) and was probably going in and out of ventricular fibrilation (very bad). SWIM made the mistake of cooking it and not filtering it. SWIM thought that since it was such a small amount that filtering it would just waste the shot. SWIM was a fucking idiot. SWIM was also alone (also very stupid). SWIM was unable to speak any words, just frantic noises. SWIM truely felt he was going to die. SWIM swore off IV coke. 5 months later SWIM decided to try it again. This time SWIM used a VERY small amount. SWIM didn't cook it, and used a rolled-up piece of a cigarette butt as a filter. SWIM felt the best rush of his life, yet it only last a few seconds. SWIM then turned into a human pin cushin for the next hour, redosing every minute or two until SWIM began to vomit uncontrollably. SWIM doesn't IV coke anymore.

That goes to show the dangers of IV use; SWIY could have died at any moment and re-dosing every other minute is suicidal, at least 30 minutes should elapse, better one hour for non-tolerant users.

Originally Posted by betsym

Oh swim knows and agrees that the needle is a one-way trip and there's no turning back from it. Swim had the needle on a first-name basis at one time. NOBODY thought swim would even think about such a thing, given her background.Peeps often expect those with medical knowledge to always "know better" and to do the "right thing". Just like preachers' kids and cops' kids are often the worst offenders when it comes to breaking spiritual and physical laws, so too are doctor's kids (or other relatives) and other medical lab rats the worst offenders when it comes to breaking health laws. "Knowing" and "Doing" are two different things, they say.

Swim thinks she may have "down-played" her own overdose occurences since they only seemed to affect her temporarily, as far as her physical response.Knowing too much sometimes is almost as bad as not knowing enough. Lab-rats are sometimes too confident in their knowledge of what to expect so when the unexpected happens, such as getting off at the "train stop", some "readjustment" has to take place. Not to worry, that "readjustment" does not include trying a "speedball." The only time she would probably even consider doing that would be if she ever got a terminal illness or something. Doctors used to give dying patient's a Brompton's Cocktail, which is an injection of Cocaine/Heroin/alcohol. Looks like Dr. Kevorkian, the doctor who went all over helping terminally-ill peeps with assisted suicide, would have used this cocktail instead of all that other crap.

Speedballs are not much more dangerous than injecting cocaine alone; in fact most of the dangers come from the cocaine than the heroin, the heroin can cause a delayed overdose once the coke effects wear off if too much was used since the coke has a half life of only one hour while heroin is about four hours.

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Decent advice.