Injecting - Solubility/purity

[Dark Angel]

SWIM tripped over a ladder recently and found herself with a bag of needles in one pocket and a bag of base in the other. She'll deal with that in time but right now is more concerned that she isn't getting the hit she should - even after 10 weeks of abstinence.

SWIM has twice cooked approx 1/3g of this "base" in 1ml water before filtering and poking. There was considerable residue despite plenty of cooking.

SWIM previously would shoot 1/2 g speed cut 1:1.5 base to glucose in 0.7ml water. The base for this speed was particularly pure.

This present gear looks and smells right. It has a slight glucose taste due to mixing base with pre-cut speed because the ladder was in a hurry. It tastes nasty - but nothing like as nasty as the best SWIM has ingested. It's really bad at dissolving though. The ladder failed to mention the ratio that the speed was cut to but apparently the speed:base ratio was 1:2. It doesn't rot baggies like the previous gear did though.

SWIM has seen conflicting reports about the solubility of base - possibly due to the confusion over what *it* is in different parts of the world. Since the ladder was propped against a wall in Surbiton (London), SWIM suspects it's sulphate.

Should SWIM use citric to dissolve her gear, wash it with acetone or what?

Thanks

[Dexyfiend]

Sulphate is soluble in water whereas base (true base) is not but SWIM finds it can still be shot up it just dosent dissolve in the water properly.
Citric would be best in theory but be careful whacking up lemon juice and shit it's full of bacteria and other organic junk that you really don't want in your veins, stick with water.

Also you said it's pure but how do you know? Unless you made it yourself there really is no way of knowing. SWIM has had stuff before that smelt the business but did jack all so you never know really.

[Raz]

Originally Posted by Dark Angel

SWIM has seen conflicting reports about the solubility of base - possibly due to the confusion over what *it* is in different parts of the world. Since the ladder was propped against a wall in Surbiton (London), SWIM suspects it's sulphate.

Well you need to use acid on a freebase (H2SO4 gives sulphate, HCL gives hydrochlorid which is rarely used with amphetamine due it's highly hygroscopic ability). Freebase is an oil.

A friend from the EU said that "base" or "paste" is just sulphate mixed with water so dry it first.

[humdroid]

Originally Posted by Dark Angel

SWIM tripped over a ladder recently and found herself with a bag of needles in one pocket and a bag of base in the other. She'll deal with that in time but right now is more concerned that she isn't getting the hit she should - even after 10 weeks of abstinence.

SWIM has twice cooked approx 1/3g of this "base" in 1ml water before filtering and poking. There was considerable residue despite plenty of cooking.

SWIM previously would shoot 1/2 g speed cut 1:1.5 base to glucose in 0.7ml water. The base for this speed was particularly pure.

This present gear looks and smells right. It has a slight glucose taste due to mixing base with pre-cut speed because the ladder was in a hurry. It tastes nasty - but nothing like as nasty as the best SWIM has ingested. It's really bad at dissolving though. The ladder failed to mention the ratio that the speed was cut to but apparently the speed:base ratio was 1:2. It doesn't rot baggies like the previous gear did though.

SWIM has seen conflicting reports about the solubility of base - possibly due to the confusion over what *it* is in different parts of the world. Since the ladder was propped against a wall in Surbiton (London), SWIM suspects it's sulphate.

Should SWIM use citric to dissolve her gear, wash it with acetone or what?

Thanks

Y said the Egg-timers had told him the base has really dipped in quality this last couple of months.
Y is experimenting with abstinence at the moment, but a bomb dropped down his throat a few weeks ago, and Y, thinking it was the usual heavy duty stuff, felt dissappointed that this rather large monster didnt bring Y up. Y was with an egg-timer who injected it, and said the same. Y thinks the stuff was dissolved in water, but isn't sure, as Y wasn't so keen on people pinning up in his gaff, so turned his back. Y did notice, after his wayward mate had done the do, there was a lot of inert white gloop in the spoon (the cut) this made up the majority of the stuff.
A donkey who insists on reading the observer online, said that if you surf the observer website, last sunday, there was a pullout on drugs.
Y dosent read papers, but the donkey said the credit-crunch is hitting the cokeheads, and as well know, coke is linked with the strength of currency. As coke is becoming more expensive, at this level of the chain, egg timers are offering cokeys speed, instead, as it does the job sort of, right?
This made Y feel better, as Y just thought they had an immovable tolerance, and would need bigbombs. In reality, the kit is a small percentage of the quality the basehead community has enjoyed thusfar.
Y cannot say for deffo, though, as abstinence is what Y is mainly doing now where this stuff is concerned.

[Dark Angel]

SWIM is fond of her eyesight so won't be using lemon juice. She was rather surprised that the harm reduction bags in Gloucestershire don't seem to do much to reduce harm - providing no cookers and no citric.

She has just put 1ml boiling water over 3/4 teaspoon (roughly 3/4 g) of the powder, mixed it and watched a suspension develop. She cooked it further on the hot plate of an aga, bringing it to a bubble twice. She sucked up the solution through a cotton filter, cooled it in the fridge for 5 minutes and poked it. She still isn't getting the rush....hints of it - but not the wobbly, hard, omg, oh hang it, it's cool, that she is used to.

As SWIM understands it, UK "base" is a name rather than a scientific description - she believes it to be washed sulphate that has not been left to dry. SWIM's ladder is a friend who had dried the "base" so she has a powder rather than an oil.

The bag does not smell of much. SWIM knows it has the good stuff in it because she bombed it during the week and was up all night writing. SWIM tasted the residue in the spoon and it tastes much purer than the bare powder she is cooking. SWIM is concerned though as the residue has a soapy feeling, something she feels is best for topical rather than internal use.

To clarify for the fiend, SWIM is not calling this the good shit but rather her previous supply. SWIM knew that was good because she could dissolve it easily, poke it once and be up for 24 hours. SWIM found that excellent for her concentration whereas she says this stuff is only so-so.

[Dexyfiend]

Nothing pisses SWIM off more than mediocre amphetamines. The trouble is it often looks, smells and tastes very very similar to the good stuff... oh well.

[humdroid]

Y was the same, nothing wound him up like weak speed.

humdroid added 6 Minutes and 18 Seconds later...

UK base usually looks like philadelphia cheese.
It's smelly nappies-meets-B&Q in smell, and a match head size does what a pea sized bomb of 'basin sugar' does.
Y was that sad he used to be able to tell by looking what base was strong and what was glooked up with additives.