Injecting & smoking MDMA and potentcies

[Jamiroquai]

Funny how it seems you Europe Continentals and Saxons & Celts of UK never seem to talk about doing X this way. You wanna talk about rolling now! lol! I know culture has the brunt of the reason as to why, but much like how you guys have them fools taking P2P and making amphetamine not methamphetamine as the vast majority of speed over there is not mono-methylated unlike the rest of the world anymore.


Here in the States MDMA is as widespread as methamphetamine is there. And granted, one thing unknown about anything ending in amphetamine sulphate/hydrochloride is they "dry out" and lose potentcy rather rapidly and it foesn't matter it's sealed airtight if that planeride takes that lot of pills below 59°F/15°C Or above 87°/30.6°C those som'bitches even though are airtight would weigh less in weight if weighed on a calibrated .001g scale. Because the moment they're opened the air hits it andquite litterally a mini vapor cloud is borne.


So USA if supplied by imported MDMA is not getting 1/4 the potentcy Europe is. If after production MDMA is stored in say an empty Rx bottle at room temps between temps given above it would remain with it's full potentcy for at least three months if the bottle were never opened.


Fresh MDMA and I mean FRESH like Shulgin did is extremely light sensitive. Rx bottles are made with a polarized plastic.


The less the potentcy the less half-life it posesses.


All E's in form of pills are handled and left out in the open air and light and this plays a big part as to why shit ever got to be cut with speed. It wasn't cause dudes were out to fuck people. It was due to to many hands in the food chain handling something you shouldn't handle like LSD.


And you can't compensate for 25% potent by taking four-fold to equate the buzz. Loss of potentcyfirst and foremost means loss of euphoric psychoactivity then next xomes loss of duration/half-life. The euphorics like Mexican made crank won't exist due to diluting agents and disregard for proper storage of product.


Euphoricsare why we roll. And why we spin our selves in the spincycles.


You wanna have a taste of what it should really feel try injecting or smoking MDMA. And granted that's just a taste.


With the amphetamines productions so much haste and thus, so much waste.








That's why it's always best to make your own brew!








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Reputation Comments on this post:

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[Unsolved]

Wish I knew how and had the equipment. You know I totally would.

[shneddi]

id be up for smoking it if you can. if i knew the dose etc.


injecting.. nah if i was gonna inject id do heroin


id love to make my own stuff.. i aint a chemist though

[raven3davis]

I have read reports on injecting, and it works, but be careful. You definitely want the pure molly if you are going to inject it. I have heard smoking MDMA doesn't work, but i'm not too sure. I just eat the tabs, works fine for me. Edited by: raven3davis

[JewishNazi]

i dont agree wit hyou on that. I read an article (dammit, where did
that reference go) saying that the MDMA molecule is very stable and
that samples that are over 15 years old are still useable. The head
researcher went so far as to say that, "if the egyptians had made some
and buried it with them in the pyraminds, it would still be usable
today"



NB: not the actual quote, but that was the gist of it

[jrock0069]

I've never heard of anybody smoking MDMA. How do you do it? Does it have to be pure MDMA powder or can I just crush up a pill and smoke it? Should I use a glass pipe or put it on top of weed? How much will I have to smoke to reach a desirable effect? How does it compare with taking it orally? Sorry for so many questions but I want to make sure this will actually work. I've had some stupid mofo's tell me smoking DXM will get you high as well, but I'm well educated in that department.

[Tony Blair]

Funny how it seems you Europe Continentals and Saxons & Celts of UK never seem to talk about doing X this way

Because smoking doesn’t work, and injecting is pretty damn stupid.

Here in the States MDMA is as widespread as methamphetamine is there.

Heh, I would say MDMA is more widespread than methamphetamine here

And granted, one thing unknown about anything ending in amphetamine
sulphate/hydrochloride is they "dry out" and lose potentcy rather
rapidly and it foesn't matter it's sealed airtight if that planeride
takes that lot of pills below 59°F/15°C Or above 87°/30.6°C those
som'bitches even though are airtight would weigh less in weight if
weighed on a calibrated .001g scale. Because the moment they're opened
the air hits it andquite litterally a mini vapor cloud is borne.

hmmm, MDMA is more stable than that. Got any proof?

So USA if supplied by imported MDMA is not getting 1/4 the potentcy
Europe is. If after production MDMA is stored in say an empty Rx bottle
at room temps between temps given above it would remain with it's full
potentcy for at least three months if the bottle were never opened.

More like a few thousand YEARS

You wanna have a taste of what it should really feel try injecting or smoking MDMA. And granted that's just a taste.

Right. Injecting.



BAD IDEA. If this forum is anything to do with Harm Reduction,
this is one of the worst posts I have ever read. The fact that
you are a moderator disturbs me greatly. If some kid reads this
and gets excited and winds up needing a leg amputated / dead...



If its cut with ANYTHING, even the slightest impurity, you are
bypassing all your bodies defence mechanisms, which are there for a
reason. I know you didn’t mention it here, but injecting crushed
up pills is very very stupid. Small chunks of pills / binders
will probably get stuck somewhere in your system, cutting off the blood
supply.



Saying you don’t kill yourself, you can look forward to an intense
high, granted, but you’ll gain a nasty tolerance very quickly, and the
high will be over pretty damn quick.



The chemist had better be a damn good friend of yours, and know what
he/she is doing. AND you’d better have some decent filters on hand if
you want to do this, in some vain attempt to get ‘higher’ than your
fellow human.



You haven’t even said whether you are IV’ing or IM’ing...



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Smoking. MDMA tastes like shit, the binders in pills are going to
similarly taste like shit, not that either of them are likely to
vapourise properly. You’d have to use some sort of indirect heat,
otherwise it would just combust. Just ask anyone else except for
yourself who has tried it, they’ll report that its a waste of time.

And you can't compensate for 25% potent by taking four-fold to equate
the buzz. Loss of potentcyfirst and foremost means loss of euphoric
psychoactivity then next xomes loss of duration/half-life. The
euphorics like Mexican made crank won't exist due to diluting agents
and disregard for proper storage of product.

No comment. You sound like a troll.



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Great advice, stopped some very dangerous innaccurate information from being taken in.

[clifthebigredog]

my friend swim tried some X in belguim that cost 3 euro about 3.75USD and they pretty much kicked ass. swim never had any x in the US and was wondering if the stuff in the states was better or the same swim also heared that most of the x in the states is from belguim/netherlands so is he just getting the same stuff just cheaper?

[radiometer]

Ditto Megalev. What a crock.

[lamda]

Hi ... just dropped by!

sorry if this is an old thread.. cant find another simmilar

Originally Posted by MegaLev

Because smoking doesn’t work, and injecting is pretty damn stupid.

from searching here it looks like smoking is not doable... but a while back wally was offered a pipe by a strange woman... thinking it was cannabis he had a good blow on it, but it tasted different to hashish or weed, it tasted nicer! unusual and smooth, with a lovely belly warming effect. When wally asked the woman with a devil on her tshirt what was in her pipe, "E" was her reply. Being to "altered" and not really in the mood for technical conversation he just let it rest... Anyway wally felt that the woman could be trusted and assumes that it was indeed mdma that he smoked. Well as it was so tasty and he has access to some decent stuff for the weekend he would maybe like to smoke again.. but he's done some searching on the net and not found any information relating to the nefarious activity.

Any ideas? must it be mixed? was it a dream?

[Jeff Woad]

Hey, swim can confirm that smoking IS doable and rather nice too, same goes for injecting it iv. (swim only did this a couple of times)
Of course when swim told me about this, she was speaking of mdma crystals/powder and NOT pills!!!

[Tony Blair]

I'm still unimpressed with this thread

[smoggy32]

I reckon everyone should stay well away from injecting anything, unless a doctor is doin it for good reason!!

[Fantasian]

Fraid im with Megalev, with bother trying to find a way to smoke something that is made to be administered Orally and injecting anything unless your very knowledgable and careful about the substance is a fast route to coma and death.

[lamda]

Originally Posted by Jeff Woad

Hey, swim can confirm that smoking IS doable and rather nice too, same goes for injecting it iv. (swim only did this a couple of times)
Of course when swim told me about this, she was speaking of mdma crystals/powder and NOT pills!!!

sound, aye the caking agents and whatever else may not go down to well

Just bang some bigish bits in a screened pipe then is it?

[Nagognog2]

Don't smoke MDMA. Don't inject MDMA. I don't want to hear another word about this. Duh! Take a chemistry course. Become a doctor before you squirt god-knows-what into your veins. Enough!

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