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Old 15-11-2008, 10:17
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Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

He guys, SWIM has been using pods on a daily basis now for a little over a month. On the weekends he binges with them and during the week he uses just a little each day to maintain. He always orders from the same vendor and they only have one kind of pod (in 4 different sizes). The ones SWIM usually gets are about the size of a golf ball, some a little bigger, some a little smaller. When he first started he didn't have a pair of scales so he was just going by the amount of pods and 4 or 5 of them would do the trick. Now just after 5 weeks he is up to about 8 per cup and he just bought some scales last night and weighed out his usual amount and it weighed in at 23 Grams. This seems like a lot. He made a cup earlier this evening that weighed an ounce.

He uses an electric coffee grinder to turn them into powder. He then puts them in a pot of water and heats it up until its about to boil. Then he turns the heat off and lets them sit for about 20 mins. Afterwards he strains it and presses the remaining juice out of the gunk. Then he puts the gunk back in the pot for a second wash.

Is he doing something wrong?
Is it normal for tolerance to go up this high this fast?
Is 20-30 Grams really not all that much?
Could the pods he gets just be kind of week? He doesn't want to switch vendors if it's just his tolerance. The vendor he gets them from is very consistent and his order gets to him in 2 days every time.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 15-11-2008, 15:44
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

Hate to say it, but it sound very much like SWIY's pods haven't got weaker, it's SWIY's receptors getting harder! SWIM is relatively new to opiates and doesn't have loads of experience with them, but even so, he'd be very surprised if some serious tolerance hadn't built up over a month of daily use. SWIY could try abstaining for a couple of weeks (withdrawal symptoms allowing, of course) to see if that makes any difference when he goes back on the tea.
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Old 15-11-2008, 20:08
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

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Hate to say it, but it sound very much like SWIY's pods haven't got weaker, it's SWIY's receptors getting harder! SWIM is relatively new to opiates and doesn't have loads of experience with them, but even so, he'd be very surprised if some serious tolerance hadn't built up over a month of daily use. SWIY could try abstaining for a couple of weeks (withdrawal symptoms allowing, of course) to see if that makes any difference when he goes back on the tea.
Yeh... What I really want to do is cut down my use to just the weekends and I have no problem not using them during the week except that now I'll end up going through withdrawals and I have to work during the week. What I want to do is figure out a way to cut down a little at a time throughout the week to keep w/d's at bay until I can just not use them at all during the week but I am unsure of how to schedule this.

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Old 15-11-2008, 20:11
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

Swim wishes he could still get something from 20 grams, even bloody top grade hen and chicks! Nah he needs at least double that now for a nice night, more for weaker strains such as giganteums.
So aye, swim doesn't think that 20 grams is all that much.

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What swim does is kratom during the week and poppies at the weekend. Though there's some definite cross tolerance between the two, but the kratom will certainly stave off any withdrawals.

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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

sounds like PsychoActivist is in for sum shitty w/d's whenever they have to abruptly stop...SWIM uses the pods only on wed & once or twice on the weekends to keep tolerance down & still feels orgasmic off as little as 7-10 grams

SWIy shud probly try & taper off of the pods to avoid ne serious w/d's
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Old 15-11-2008, 20:29
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

It's almost impossible to taper off pods, kratom would be a much better option.
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

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It's almost impossible to taper off pods, kratom would be a much better option.
SWIM has a lot of experience with Kratom as well, though he hasn't done it in a while. Think if SWIM uses Kratom all week it will interrupt w/d's during the week and then he can just use the pods on the weekends?
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

Certainly, works for swim so i don't see how it wouldn't work for swiy.
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

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Certainly, works for swim so i don't see how it wouldn't work for swiy.
Ok thanks, SWIM will definitely give that a shot. He is very happy with his Kratom vendor anyway. The only problem is the extra money he will be spending. Even though he will be buying less Pods, He will still probably be spending more money than he was since Kratom doesn't last that long. He tends to go through a QP rather quickly. Oh well.... t will be worth it.
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

No probs man, glad to be of help

And swiy is right about the kratom, doesn't last too well at all eh. And it's bloody pricey. Though it's been a godsend for swim at times. Swim's got some in the fridge in case of emergencys.
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Re: Need at least 20 Grams to get off??

Should SWIM be concerned that his standard dose is six pods - about 35g with the current batch he's got - given that he's only used poppy tea a handful of times so far? He guesses it's going to depend on the strength of the pods and how high one wants to get from a 'standard dose' - SWIM guesses he likes to do it 'properly' every once in a while rather than small doses very often for a milder buzz (he would rather just drink a couple of beers for that).

Maybe SWIM's semi-regular codeine/DHC habit has given him a certain amount of tolerance.
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