Dose - GHB/MDMA question

[big mick]

has anybody ever seen any pills with ghb in them

[SWIH]

ghb and mdma go together like tea and biscuits, they're a fucking wicked combination (or so swim tells me)

[discjunkie313]

swidj's newt tells him that ghb is best to take after the roll is on it's downword slope..1/2 cap sends 1 back up the hill again also taking g..out the house in a water bottle is common..for getting it in clubs or other establishments..swidj's newt has even heard of putting in breath drop containers..if 1 smells it..it's breath drops-DJ

[big mick]

i have heard that alot of dealers cut the ghb with water is this common

[discjunkie313]

very common..just like anything else..greed and profit..out rules morality and quality..the thing about G swidj's hamster tells him..is 20 minutes to half hour one is feeling it(or should be)..so 1 would advise if 1 were going to purchase a large amount..to take a 1/2 cap and chill..before getting the whole shebang..it's also fairly simple to synth...the reason alot of swimmers are here..tired of getting cut garbage..and searching for the real experience IMO..it's also tastes salty-like..with a hint of feet,lol..only way to describe it..do swiys self a favor..make swiys own-DJ

[acid101]

Originally Posted by big mick

has anybody ever seen any pills with ghb in them

I'm guessing the username you've chosen is a joke right?
One thinks the person in question wouldn't use this site, for obvious reasons.

[tomazco]

[quote=SWIH;498558]ghb and mdma go together like tea and biscuitsquote]

--- But they have opposite effects, surely they would cancel each other out?

[psyki]

Originally Posted by big mick

has anybody ever seen any pills with ghb in them

To answer the OP, not only has SWIM never heard of pills with GHB in them, but the amount of powdered GHB needed for a dose would fill several 00 gelcaps, or would be the size of several "standard" pressed tabs of E. If you can imagine what 3g normal table salt looks like, it's a lot.

So no, it's pretty much impossible to put any discernible amount of GHB in a "normal" sized pill.

As others have commented and as SWIM has heard, GHB and MDMA is an awesome combination Or at the very least GHB is good for coming down from MDMA.

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Thank you for taking the time to point out the obvious flaw in the OP's question.

[SWIH]

[quote=tomazco;538835]

Originally Posted by SWIH

ghb and mdma go together like tea and biscuitsquote]

--- But they have opposite effects, surely they would cancel each other out?

no it doesn't work like that - just as cocaine and heroin taken together wouldn't cancel each other out (don't do that btw). the stimulant effect of the mdma inhibits the sedative effect of the ghb, which is good because it allows the user to stay awake and experience the pleasantly heightened euphoric effects of both chemicals. or so i'm told, obviously i have never taken either being a law abiding citizen and all...

[psyki]

[QUOTE=SWIH;544784]

Originally Posted by tomazco

no it doesn't work like that - just as cocaine and heroin taken together wouldn't cancel each other out (don't do that btw). the stimulant effect of the mdma inhibits the sedative effect of the ghb, which is good because it allows the user to stay awake and experience the pleasantly heightened euphoric effects of both chemicals. or so i'm told, obviously i have never taken either being a law abiding citizen and all...

Too much GHB or GBL will knock you out NO MATTER WHAT, after a certain amount you simply cannot stay conscious, no matter how stimulated you are. Ever see someone using a lot of stimulants (mdma, speed etc) go into a g-coma? It ain't pretty, twitching and reflexing and all.

Edit: to reiterate, a responsible dose of G combined with stimulants can be QUITE pleasant, just do not assume you can take more because you are high on something like mdma.

[SWIH]

[quote=psyki;547066]

Originally Posted by SWIH

Too much GHB or GBL will knock you out NO MATTER WHAT, after a certain amount you simply cannot stay conscious, no matter how stimulated you are. Ever see someone using a lot of stimulants (mdma, speed etc) go into a g-coma? It ain't pretty, twitching and reflexing and all.

Edit: to reiterate, a responsible dose of G combined with stimulants can be QUITE pleasant, just do not assume you can take more because you are high on something like mdma.

please may i just clarify, nowhere have i advocated taking "Too much GHB or GBL", or even taking large (i believe 'heroic' is the drugs forum jargon) doses of the same. **CAREFUL DOSING IS ESSENTIAL WITH G!**
my points were simply:
- g and mdma together is enjoyable (in swim's experience they are)
- the effects of the two do not 'cancel each other out' (they blatantly don't)
- the stimulant effect of one inhibits the sedative effect of the other (i thought this was commonly accepted as fact??)

i hope no-one thinks this is 'arguing for argument's sake', rather i am very keen to avoid copping another ban for the sake of my posts being willfully misinterpreted as reckless advice, thanks.

ps as for using a lot of stimulants and going into a 'g-coma', i hear its much less disturbing to experience than to witness. unless you piss yourself of course.

[MrG]

"Too much" is by simple definition excessive.

How much "Too much" might be is an entirely different issue.

Being sensible with dosing and *always* knowing how much G SWIY takes in a dose is critical.

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stone cold common sense

[piuiher]

yeah I have seen 2 of my friends take too much GHB (and even mix that with fucking alcohol...if i only knew that they drank before i'd have told them to avoid).

G-Coma...pissing ...I was so glad they came back after a full night at the ER. Pity since we were having fun in a club and it all went wrong.

[kimotag]

I can imagine some dealers might combine speed and G but am not that up on the current composition of pills. Interestingly, liquid GHB was often sold in London as 'liquid ecstacy' when of course its not. Some policemen still seem to regard it this way judging from a programme on policing in the centre of London that I saw recently!