Opinions - Need some information on Tramadol

[methadone_lad]

smim is on methadone,and has been given 50mg tramadol tablets,he has a frequent up and down heroin addiction,he is on methadone 80mls 3 diazepam 5mg nitezpam 10mg he has a pretty high tolerance esp for opiates and alcohol,he hasnt had any real experence with tramadol,but smim will be taking some tomorro,he likely will also be getting a bag of heroin?if he doesnt get the heroin he will likely have a bottle of whiskey and have some tramadol (50mg) how many has people taken in the past to get wiped out (50mg)??and has anyone ever had a dig of heroin and taken some tramadol while on methadone?can everyone please tell me as much info as they can...many thanks cheers

[Blu_berrytoke]

haha, Swim actually used to obtain large quantities of tramadol50mg tablets. The most swim ever took was 10(500mgs), which got swim destroyed when swim took a few shots of whiskey as well. As far as mixing with heroin or methadone, no clue.
swim does know that its supposed to become lethal around 300mgs, but I don't believe that since swim has taken much more than that..plus drank. It's not an opiate, but it's chemically similar to one, so drinking alot on it is still a bad idea, but a little definitely enhances the feeling. It's a research chemical, so not much info is published about it obviously.
For an average recreational dose, swim would recommend 4-7 50mg tablets, lower end if drinking with it, higher end if not. The way I usually think of it is as supervicoden, since it feels similar, and you don't have to take much of it.
Anyone who has more concrete info or more knowledge of it, please post it, as I am interested in more info on this as well. Hope this helps

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[methadone_lad]

yeah mate has definatly helped thanks all the best

[yaba]

Originally Posted by Blu_berrytoke

haha, Swim actually used to obtain large quantities of tramadol50mg tablets. The most swim ever took was 10(500mgs), which got swim destroyed when swim took a few shots of whiskey as well. As far as mixing with heroin or methadone, no clue.
swim does know that its supposed to become lethal around 300mgs, but I don't believe that since swim has taken much more than that..plus drank. It's not an opiate, but it's chemically similar to one, so drinking alot on it is still a bad idea, but a little definitely enhances the feeling. It's a research chemical, so not much info is published about it obviously.
For an average recreational dose, swim would recommend 4-7 50mg tablets, lower end if drinking with it, higher end if not. The way I usually think of it is as supervicoden, since it feels similar, and you don't have to take much of it.
Anyone who has more concrete info or more knowledge of it, please post it, as I am interested in more info on this as well. Hope this helps

Swim done the same thing 500/600mg with drink in his bad day's ! Dont underestimate tramadol withdrawl ! shaking, sweating, unable to sleep etc. And swiy berrytoke, Swim thinks your info is correct !

[cuddlesthefox]

All swim can add is be extra careful if you also take SSRI's like Fluoxetine. Apparently the risk of seizure is greatly increased and also serotonin syndrome which can be fatal.

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by methadone_lad

smim is on methadone,and has been given 50mg tramadol tablets,he has a frequent up and down heroin addiction,he is on methadone 80mls 3 diazepam 5mg nitezpam 10mg he has a pretty high tolerance esp for opiates and alcohol,he hasnt had any real experence with tramadol,but smim will be taking some tomorro,he likely will also be getting a bag of heroin?if he doesnt get the heroin he will likely have a bottle of whiskey and have some tramadol (50mg) how many has people taken in the past to get wiped out (50mg)??and has anyone ever had a dig of heroin and taken some tramadol while on methadone?can everyone please tell me as much info as they can...many thanks cheers

High tolerance or not swimethadonelad is heading for the cemetery,mixing opiates/opiods with Alcohol,Alcohol with Diazepam,Heroin with Diazepam~e.t.c is risky at the best of times but to mix all of these on top of 80mls of Methadone including Iv~ing Heroin is just plain stupidity.
SWi~Q says}To begin with methadone will block out most of the effects of other opiates/opiods,so even if swiy has no concerns about his own safety? Then perhaps the thought of wasting his booty may well hit home a little.
With the above in mind we can state that the euphoric effects that other opiate related drugs should produce~Will be greatly reduced whilst having 80mls of Methadone in your system(Note swim said only the euphoric effects)
Tramadol is an opiod,and it is a fairly weak one(About the same analgesic strength of codeine)but with a much lower affinity for your u-opiod receptors-which are currently being blocked by the Methadone,In other words even without the methadone somebody with a high opiate tolerance is not going to get a very good high from tramadol,even at doses of 400mg+ (The claimed safe dose is 400mg)
Now swi-q is not going to be a total hypocrite and say he has never taken Dihydrocodeine,Diazepam and a little Alcohol in the past or indeed mixed Diazepam and Heroin e.t.c but swim would always try and use a little caution especially when Injecting Heroin.
So if swiy wants to get the best results out of his booty swim would suggest you do not take any Methadone for a minimum of 24HRS before shooting Heroin and then consume a little alcohol+Diazepam if swiy feels the need?
With regards to the tramadol to get any effects swim would wait until the first signs of Methadone withdrawls are felt before the tramadol is consumed with perhaps a little alcohol and diazepam......(Info removed due to bad research)
Swim is only trying to help swiy and is not preaching as our other comunications have proved.
Take care M-lad.....Q
Swim should add a lot less H will be needed when the Methadone is out of swiys system.

[Dickon]

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[point of information] Jon-q, there's no APAP (paracetamol) in Tramadol, although there are mixed formulations (wiki says 37.5mg Tramadol, 325mg APAP, so probably not what we're dealing with here).

I'd (I'm no Tramadol expert) say it's going to be about as useless as a chocolate watch in your situation methadone_lad. It would be like taking 5mg of codeine which with 80mg methadone and a nice hit of heroin will go completely unnoticed. If it does anything (other than produce it's non opiate effects) I'd all but eat my hat! Tramadol is a very mild drug (it's dubious as to whether it's a real opiate although it exhibits mu-receptor activity) and I'm assuming you want to use it for it's opiate effects, rather than its serotonergic ones.

Dickon

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by Dickon

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[point of information] Jon-q, there's no APAP (paracetamol) in Tramadol, although there are mixed formulations (wiki says 37.5mg Tramadol, 325mg APAP, so probably not what we're dealing with here).
Dickon

Swim only did a 2 minuite search on tramadol and APAP and yes he holds his hands up he used Thikipedia~Quote~
Tramadol is usually marketed as the hydrochloride salt (tramadol hydrochloride) It is also available in conjunction with paracetamol (acetaminophen).
Swim is sorry to methlad if he miss led him in any way,and I will personaly Beat swim repeatedly with a hard flat paddle....whooo...

[methadone_lad]

swim took the tramadol last night 500mg and swim didnt really get anything off it he also had some whiskey and on the afternoon had some heroin on top of his meth,diazepam ect,swim is not longer going to take the tramadol does not like them ay all!!,he just had taken them as he was given a strip,swim wud also like to know does methadone block out heroin,as swim had 2 digs yday and didnt really get a goof,he did a tiny bit,but his friend were all goofed out,cheers

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by methadone_lad

swim took the tramadol last night 500mg and swim didnt really get anything off it he also had some whiskey and on the afternoon had some heroin on top of his meth,diazepam ect,swim is not longer going to take the tramadol does not like them ay all!!,he just had taken them as he was given a strip,swim wud also like to know does methadone block out heroin,as swim had 2 digs yday and didnt really get a goof,he did a tiny bit,but his friend were all goofed out,cheers

Swim suggests swiy re-read all the helpfull posts~Especially the ones from swiself and swiDickon.
Quotes from above~ SwiDickon-with 80mg of methadone a nice hit of heroin will go completely unnoticed.
Swiself- With the above in mind we can state that the euphoric effects that other opiate related drugs should produce~Will be greatly reduced whilst having 80mls of Methadone in your system

[methadone_lad]

hey jon q thanks for replying how do i find the posts from swiself and swiDickon and wot are they about? thanks

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by jon-q

High tolerance or not swimethadonelad is heading for the cemetery,mixing opiates/opiods with Alcohol,Alcohol with Diazepam,Heroin with Diazepam~e.t.c is risky at the best of times but to mix all of these on top of 80mls of Methadone including Iv~ing Heroin is just plain stupidity.
SWi~Q says}To begin with methadone will block out most of the effects of other opiates/opiods,so even if swiy has no concerns about his own safety? Then perhaps the thought of wasting his booty may well hit home a little.
With the above in mind we can state that the euphoric effects that other opiate related drugs should produce~Will be greatly reduced whilst having 80mls of Methadone in your system(Note swim said only the euphoric effects)
Tramadol is an opiod,and it is a fairly weak one(About the same analgesic strength of codeine)but with a much lower affinity for your u-opiod receptors-which are currently being blocked by the Methadone,In other words even without the methadone somebody with a high opiate tolerance is not going to get a very good high from tramadol,even at doses of 400mg+ (The claimed safe dose is 400mg)
Now swi-q is not going to be a total hypocrite and say he has never taken Dihydrocodeine,Diazepam and a little Alcohol in the past or indeed mixed Diazepam and Heroin e.t.c but swim would always try and use a little caution especially when Injecting Heroin.
So if swiy wants to get the best results out of his booty swim would suggest you do not take any Methadone for a minimum of 24HRS before shooting Heroin and then consume a little alcohol+Diazepam if swiy feels the need?
With regards to the tramadol to get any effects swim would wait until the first signs of Methadone withdrawls are felt before the tramadol is consumed with perhaps a little alcohol and diazepam......(Info removed due to bad research)
Swim is only trying to help swiy and is not preaching as our other comunications have proved.
Take care M-lad.....Q
Swim should add a lot less H will be needed when the Methadone is out of swiys system.

Originally Posted by Dickon

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[point of information] Jon-q, there's no APAP (paracetamol) in Tramadol, although there are mixed formulations (wiki says 37.5mg Tramadol, 325mg APAP, so probably not what we're dealing with here).

I'd (I'm no Tramadol expert) say it's going to be about as useless as a chocolate watch in your situation methadone_lad. It would be like taking 5mg of codeine which with 80mg methadone and a nice hit of heroin will go completely unnoticed. If it does anything (other than produce it's non opiate effects) I'd all but eat my hat! Tramadol is a very mild drug (it's dubious as to whether it's a real opiate although it exhibits mu-receptor activity) and I'm assuming you want to use it for it's opiate effects, rather than its serotonergic ones.

Dickon

These ones that are above you.But to put it in simple terms Methadone will BLOCK the effects of Heroin.....

[nAzTNM]

Mixing Whisky, and Tramadol, is just asking for trouble IMHO.