Purity - Heroin laced ecstasy

[ctb4444]

aliens around swims town are selling xtc claiming its H laced. there tripple stacks with a pistol on it. swims never herd of such a thing and was wandering if anyone else has these in there area(swim lives in the midwest), seems kinda pointless to me. swim likes to do shit on x, and while on H swim just sits on the couch in half unconcius opiate mode(if u know what swim means), so if its true and they do contain H swim wanders wat the feeling would be like, maybe a little speedballish?, idn should swim just give'em a try? or pass?

ctb4444 added 2 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

also wouldnt they cancell each other out mdma and opiates.

[chillinwill]

Highly doubt that the contain H due to the price that H normally sells for it would make it pointless for the dealer. I guess it could be possible but more than likely it does not and no one on here can tell SWIY if that pill contains H or not unless SWIY gets it tested

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nice advice

[Joe Duffy]

I have heard stories like this for nearly twenty years and never have any of them ever turned out to be true.

[Raz]

The bioavailability levels of the oral use of heroin (and morphine to which heroin via oral metabolizes during the first pass) is pretty low so the amounts probably wouldn't even be active at this level.

I believe there was only a single case in which heroin was found in ecstasy but we can't net ID your pill so get it tested.

[Jatelka]

This has been covered so many times before it's just not true. Please UTFSE! to find a number of threads where this has been discussed ad nauseum

[MindNRA]

Even if it does contain H, which is seriously doubtful, Heroin would have to be injected to do anything so unless you are planning on melting down the pill and injecting it in your arm (and I would highly NOT recommend that), heroin would have no way to work. Sure you can eat it but that wouldn't do anything unless you ate a LOT of it.

So ... those dealers are full of sh|t, end of story.

[bman1]

"tripple stack" should be another clue
one could put h in a pill, but would be expensive as stated above.

It generally means they don't know what they're talking about.

To Erowids knowledge, only one pill tested by ecstasy laboratory testing projects has identified heroin as an adulterant. While this doesn't mean that no other ecstasy tablet has ever contained heroin, it does mean that it's extremely uncommon.

Because people don't know what's in the tablets they take, it's easy to start to imagine that differences in effects from time to time are the result of a variety of drugs which seem like they might produce that kind of effect. Someone might describe a tablet as "heroin based" or "smacky" because they (or people they know) had an experience which was more stoney and less stimulating than other experiences on ecstasy. Unfortunately there's no way to know what would cause this sort of effect in any given experience: Lower doses, the presence of other more common adulterants like DXM, MDA, Ketamine or even the lack of common adulterants such as Caffeine or Ephedrine. It's quite likely that such differences can be explained by standard differences from one experience to another.

[tryptamaster]

wat color is da pill? jw cuz in swims town about 1 year ago these pink pistols came areound and were the BEST rolls ever...

[bman1]

Originally Posted by tryptamaster

wat color is da pill? jw cuz in swims town about 1 year ago these pink pistols came areound and were the BEST rolls ever...

very unlikely the same pill. Dr. Phil had one a year ago? Were r. Phil's tripple stacked? What would make Dr Phil think two pills purchased in different cities a year a part are the same? Even pills with the same print in same cities can be different only way to know what is in your pill is test it.

[Spare Chaynge]

Low oral bioavailability makes this extremely unlikely

[tryptamaster]

bman, i know its highly un-likely jsut wondeitng if mayeb it was the same manufactuer. and it wasnt sold as triple stacked ut sure as helll flet liek it lol. swim thinks the mre taglines ie "tripple stacks" the shittier the pills tend to actually be.

[enquirewithin]

Heroin laced ecstasy is an urban myth! Why on earth would anyone lace MDMA with something more expensive, even assuming the two substances had effects that complement each other. In other words, heroin would make ecstasy less effective not more.

[Jatelka]

Given that this still seems to be going. Here are the other threads on this topic...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ghlight=heroin
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ghlight=heroin

Note that they are both CLOSED

[Routemaster Flash]

Apparently MDEA (a.k.a. MDE) sometimes turns up in pills along with, or instead of, MDMA. It's said to be virtually indistinguishable from MDMA at low doses but has a 'stoning' or sedating effect at higher doses, which is thought to have helped perpetuated the old smack-in-ecstasy myth. Ketamine and DXM turn up in 'ecstasy' as well sometimes, and could well lead to someone believing they'd taken a sedative or opiate if they weren't used to the effects of those drugs.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mde/mde.shtml

[ctb4444]

swim was just lookin for an opinion on if swims should buy it didnt mean to start the whole use the search engine thread, just tryin to get somequick advice you know. swim did end up buy the 2 tripples "H" x. and one single of a different kind. swim snorted the H one just in case but didnt feel any but swim didnt roll to hard until swim took the third. swim went thru an 8th of some 50 and 8th shit and 15 whipp cream cans, and took a hit of salvia while rollin, on swims way down he took 5 norcs and 6 5mg valiums, 2 k-boys, and a football. then swims dude hit me up and swim got 10 30mg HCL morphine pills, took lines all nite 15 at a time, and bought a 50 sack of blow to stay awake from all the downers. it was tite swim couldnt keep swims eyes open but swim didnt pass out. swim was goin up then down then up ect... never had that feeling before. only got two hour of the best sleep of swims life lol. this morning swim bought some more 40x and some powdered kramtom to just chill, and wait for more dody to come thru swims tired of mids and regs , feel me. peace

ctb4444 added 4 Minutes and 57 Seconds later...

everyone just chill, people in this world are on the edge to much, drink some kramtom,take a bar, smoke a blunt and relax, we need more people on chill mode on this rock orbiting this big ball of gas. swim just didnt have time to think to use the search engine swims was bored and just wanted to start a coversation u know, even if its been covered before,lol swims lonely just wanted to make conversation

[Cryptic Concoction]

SWIY should be much more careful mixing MDMA, or what is purportedly MDMA, with other substances unless he is fully aware of the drug interactions.

There are two problems with this:
1. SWIY does not know how these to drugs will interact and whether or not they will be potentially dangerous.
2. SWIY does not even know the composition of the pill. Buying ecstasy is laden with enough uncertainty without combining it with several other drugs.

I would suggest that SWIY approach his drug usage with much more vigilance.

Regarding ecstasy pills laced with heroin, it is highly unlikely given that I can not see what economical purpose it would serve--and drug dealers are driven by profit.

Do not believe the vast majority of the "information" that is circulated among drug users and from drug dealers. Much of it is entirely unsubstantiated.

[Routemaster Flash]

Originally Posted by Cryptic Concoction

Regarding ecstasy pills laced with heroin, it is highly unlikely given that I can not see what economical purpose it would serve--and drug dealers are driven by profit.

Do not believe the vast majority of the "information" that is circulated among drug users and from drug dealers. Much of it is entirely unsubstantiated.

It also sounds like the kind of thing a drug 'educator' might happily pass on, as it makes ecstasy sound more dangerous. Never mind the fact that it's not generally in a dealer's interests to a) poison his clients or b) adulterate a relatively cheap drug with a much more expensive one! (as you already mentioned, in fact, sorry).