Are you all joking on tolerance?

[jamesdavid12]

Ive been doing E for only 2 to 3 months now and have been loving it. But recently there have been turns to the worse. The high has become soo dull is upsetting. There is no euphoria at all!! I become numb so dont say much but dont even have the energy to dance. I know the pills or mdma I take is top quality because of my mates reactions to it. Now Im not trying to act big with this tolerance issue cause its putting my XTC career on the back burner which I dont like. Take last weekend for instance. I took8 playstation pills, two bombs of mdma each one being 0.20 of a g and a tab of acid (at the very end). The E did nothing except made me dizzy and throw up from the high acidic content. How has this come about? I have been doing it on occasions 3 times a week butI have hardly been taking it as long as some. Please can someobdy give me some advise. I have given like 2 week gaps between my last 3 rolls and they have all been pathetic. All resulting in me becoming upset, eating more and more of them then just throwing up them up. Any suggestions? Cheers

[korky8097]

take a break man, and definatly start taking 5-htp. You have low
serotonin(sp?) levels in your brain and you arent taking anything to
help your body make it fast enough. My advice is stop for a month
minimum and take 5-htp and a multivitamin every day. Keep
hydrated and just basicly be healthy. I take B6 instead of
5-htp, does anybody know for sure if they have the same effect, ive
read that it has. I know wha you are talking about though man, my
last roll of pure mdma was just sitting around feeling shitty
kinda. Ive stopped for a month so far and plan on staying off for
a little while longer. Good luck man

[korky8097]

btw you can find 5-htp at your local vitamin store most likely.

[Rogue]

Yup, you've got yourself a tolerance there. 3 times a week is alot, I know very few people who do it that much. There is also a strong possibility that you're experiencing a serotonin defficiency.


The best thing to do would be to take a break for a few months, that should help lower your tolerance and give your body a chance to recover. You could also try some 5-htp supplements. They're availible online and also in the high street shop Holland & Barratt, although the H&B ones are pretty expensive.

[Zandorf]

Maybe no one else has the heart to tell you but i beleive shulgin has
said that MDMA tends to lose its magic after you use it around 50
times. Definately try 5-htp and vitamins like the others said before
giving up but be careful, you don't want your body to get too
accustomed to making seratonin from 5-htp and not tryptophan ( your
body normally creates seratonin by converting tryptophan to 5-htp and
then to seratonin, the 5-htp supplements are like taking a short cut).

[PenguinPhreak]

Hmm According to the New York Times article "Dr. Ecstasy" Shulgin never
found MDMA to be a transformative experience, and said he thought it
was just like a lucid alcohol buzz.

[Tony Blair]

I have been doing it on occasions 3 times a week butI have hardly been taking it as long as some

I feel for you dude, I guess no one told you that you'd lose all the
magic within a couple of months (or even 1) at this rate.



Leave it for 6 months and see how it is then..

[unico_walker]

Originally Posted by PenguinPhreak

Hmm According to the New York Times article "Dr. Ecstasy" Shulgin never
found MDMA to be a transformative experience, and said he thought it
was just like a lucid alcohol buzz.

"(with 120 mg) As the material came on I felt that
I was being enveloped, and my attention had to be directed to it. I
became quite fearful, and my face felt cold and ashen. I felt that I
wanted to go back, but I knew there was no turning back. Then the fear
started to leave me, and I could try taking little baby steps, like
taking first steps after being reborn. The woodpile is so beautiful,
about all the joy and beauty that I can stand. I am afraid to turn
around and face the mountains, for fear they will overpower me. But I
did look, and I am astounded. Everyone must get to experience a
profound state like this. I feel totally peaceful. I have lived all my
life to get here, and I feel I have come home. I am complete."


- description of an MDMA experience, from "PIHKAL", by Ann and Alexander Shulgin.



Oh yea sounds like a lucid alcohol buzz to me </font>

[Hyperreal]

The trip reports in PIHKALand TIHKAL aren't all written by Sasha and Ann. It's true that at first, Sasha thought it was just like 'the second martini', but he later discovered the magic of it. Edited by: Hyperreal

[Iggypoop]

jamesdavid, i'd say just don't take pills all the time!! three times a week is way too much, try once a month! Preloading and postloading has been said to make a major difference but i've yet to test the theory. BTW i see u are in the uk, were the pills blue playstations? Thing is i know they used to be a really good pill but the latest batch has been found to contain pma which can be very toxic!


check out www.**************** about half way down the main page. Please let me know if you get this in the interests of harm reduction!

[motorhead]

Ya i wouldnt be worrying so much about tolerence as i would about turning ur brain to swiss cheese. Dont get me wrong i think E and pretty much all drugs are there for anyone to consume, but from what ive read in articles from actual hardcore ravers and from ravers that ive known is that heavy e use fucks with the mind. Im talkin different things like memory loss and tremors just to name a couple. Even prolonged use of pychodelic drugs like lsd and mushrooms arnt as bad for the head.


Well im no poster child for responsibility, this is just the info ive gotten from what i think are pretty reliable sources. I do e myself, but only once a year, and it makes it that much more awesome each time i do it. But then again im not into the rave scene.


So basically, like most others have remarked here its probably a good idea to ease up on the ole x intake. cheers man do it like every six months or so and u wont have to worry bout tolerance or bad side effects.