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Old 11-11-2008, 16:21
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MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

A friend of mine took E a few days ago, which we've found out as a "Red Star" at ecstasydata.org. It contains: 19 MDMA, 1 MDA. What does that mean? 1 part MDA, 19 parts MDMA?

Anyway, it was the first time he took E, and he took two pills, with an interval of two hours. Everything was pefekt and he felt excellent.

When he woke up the next day, he wasn't able to talk; the letters just fell wrong, like extreme dyslexism, but orally. He couldn't either wright sms, he pushed wrong buttons. And he put wrong things at the wrong place, like the bread in the fridge. He couldn't count all the months, some missed.
He knew what he wanted to say and wright, but when he tried, it went wrong. It was hardly possible to understand what he tried to say.

It lasted for about treee hours, then he was normal.


So, does anybody know what happened? Has anybody experienced the same thing?

What happened medically? Too high or low levels of some transmitter substances?

I really would like an answer for this event, and if somebody know where to read about what i've discribed, please link to it
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Old 11-11-2008, 16:43
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Re: MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

The symptoms you describe are pretty major cognitive functions that are either damaged or shut down. Does swiy have any history of brain damage or deviations in functions? specially in the Broca Area of the brain?

These effects shouldn't be so salient. Did swiy have any headaches lasting for hours up to days?

How much did swiy drink when rolling and afterwards? It could be extreme dehydration.

Its hard to tell what happened without more information.
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Old 11-11-2008, 17:07
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Re: MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

You can't really use Ecstasydata.org to find reliable data. Many people use the same logos so you can't be sure they are both the same pill.



Could the SwiOP had a short bout of serotonin syndrome?
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Re: MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

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The symptoms you describe are pretty major cognitive functions that are either damaged or shut down. Does swiy have any history of brain damage or deviations in functions? specially in the Broca Area of the brain?

These effects shouldn't be so salient. Did swiy have any headaches lasting for hours up to days?

How much did swiy drink when rolling and afterwards? It could be extreme dehydration.

Its hard to tell what happened without more information.
He is a normal person, with, as far as I know, no especially brain damages. Maybe it's worth noticing that he doesn't talk the same dialect as other people in this part of the country at all (not either his parents). He has constructed an own dialect. Maybe that has to do with some deviation in the broca area?
Yes, he had headake (migraine) the day after he took E.
I don't think he got dehydration, he drank regularly during the night.

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He is a normal person, with, as far as I know, no especially brain damages. Maybe it's worth noticing that he doesn't talk the same dialect as other people in this part of the country at all (not either his parents). He has constructed an own dialect. Maybe that has to do with some deviation in the broca area?
Yes, he had headake (migraine) the day after he took E.
I don't think he got dehydration, he drank regularly during the night.
I wrote wrong: I mean that he doesn't talk like his parents either. They talk like everybody else in this part of the country!

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Old 11-11-2008, 22:18
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Re: MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

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A friend of mine took E a few days ago, which we've found out as a "Red Star" at ecstasydata.org. It contains: 19 MDMA, 1 MDA. What does that mean? 1 part MDA, 19 parts MDMA?
The report on ecstasydata.org was from 1999. The likelihood of this being the same pill is about 1 in 10000000000000000000.
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Re: MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

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Maybe it's worth noticing that he doesn't talk the same dialect as other people in this part of the country at all (not either his parents). He has constructed an own dialect. Maybe that has to do with some deviation in the broca area?
Constructing a dialect or talking differently doesn't cause deviations in the broca area. Broca area is co-responsible for language processing and comprehension.


Maybe swiy reacts to MDMA or some other compound that was in the pills in a unique but destructive way. Its hard to tell without a brain scan and tests. I would definitly advice you not to go on with taking these specific pills because it might be the pills. As was mentioned above searching the ecstacy databank will not give you objective evidence because the same "kind" of pill comes from many places. Maybe if swim has a doctor with which he can talk about these kind of things he could explain to him what happened and run some tests.
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Old 12-11-2008, 00:48
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Re: MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

Do not take the pills anymore!! These pills could be causing brain damage!!
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:50
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Re: MDMA and MDA - unable to talk!

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Do not take the pills anymore!! These pills could be causing brain damage!!
Of course HE won't take them anymore. But another person took the same pills at the same time, and he didn't get any problems.

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