Inhaling - How to Properly Smoke Heroin

[JarvyJarvison]

Hey guys. I've done a couple searches on this topic and I found a few threads on how to smoke heroin but what I found is what our friends in the UK would call "total shite." SWIM would appreciate it if you could give him a step-by-step run through on the best way to chase the dragon. When the H runs should he follow the liquid with his lighter or what? Give me your best guys. Thanks in advance.

[discodave]

get ur straw behind the beetle, heat the beetle with the liter while tipping gently the foil on the non shiny side up with the beetle (heroin) on it, follow it around with the lighter underneath sucking with yer straw. it helps to drag a tug of cigarette down if u smoke it after u sucked the beetle smoke up in the straw to ur lungs cuz the tar holds it in.

make sure ur foil gives off no fumes when heating with lightetr before starting, by heating with a realistic area and level of lighter heating. will give u alzheimers. and if u wanted to be ill ud just shoot up. if u don't finish it in one hit, chase the beetle around again after heating and smoking the foil.

remember this is safer than injecting (tho not safe) but u HAVE to heat the foil first to get rid of that aluminium smoky top coat or ur fucked.

have fun.

[rogerrinseout]

Heres what I do -
1. get yourself 2 x pieces of foil - say 6x6 and 4x3. Burn the shiny side of both (lightly but thoroughly)
2.

rogerrinseout added 7 Minutes and 32 Seconds later...

wtf?????

2. Roll the smaller piece round a pen, shiny side outside - booter - DONE. (By using foil for the booter it will collect residue to be smoked afterwards.
3. Fold a kind of gulley down the one edge of the foil, pile skag at one end of this gulley.
4. Place lighter beneath powder (foil) with it slightly tilted so as the powder turns into molten liquid chase the beetle with the booter just a little behind and with the lighter beneath. Try not to have too big a flame on the lighter. Repeat.
Hope this helps

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added some useful information

[discodave]

swim also bends a gulley in a small piece of foil but posted his earlier post while intoxicated and forgot to add it. at least it almost made sense unlike some of swims other posts

here swiy can see foil and gulley described by a friend of rogers visually:



btw rogers friend above should have referred to themselves as SWIM not I as self incrimination is against the forum rules. anyone reading could be forgiven for making the mistake roger themselves smokes heroin!

[bravotwozero]

swim suggested using the smallest flame possible and keeping it about 3-4 inches away, he said it runs alot cleaner too and lasts longer. he does also make a track and follow the beetle with the lighter.

[mickey_bee]

There are also loads of different tooter designs to try out that maximise the amount of heroin caught. After a few bags with the same tooter swiy'll have swiyself a decent smoke just from the tooter!
But yeah, whatever swiy do, never use anything other than foil for swiys tooter, otherwise swiy is completely wasting potential gear.

[Junkhead23]

Originally Posted by mickey_bee

There are also loads of different tooter designs to try out that maximise the amount of heroin caught. After a few bags with the same tooter swiy'll have swiyself a decent smoke just from the tooter!
But yeah, whatever swiy do, never use anything other than foil for swiys tooter, otherwise swiy is completely wasting potential gear.

When SWIM first started he used straws and was absolutely fucking hopeless at chasing so thought fuck it and started snorting it instead!!!

However this lead to SWIM overdosing!!

[BuriedinFrost]

Alrighty Swim has a question because Swim has tried chasing the dragon numerous times and it hasn't properly worked. When swim did it the first few times he did not burn off the shiny side of his foil Swim has tried his best to follow the hell dust along the foil and whenever he can get it cooking or flowing just right, Swim is too much of a bitch to inhale that hot ass smoke, he got over the taste long ago and it now reminds him of soemthign like Carmel, but the heat of the smoke absolutely incinerates the back of Swim's throat andhe has been a dedicated smoker of MJ and Cigarettes for atleast four years. Swim gets black tar, or brown powder most of the time, he has never snorted tar water and wonders how you cook it up, but has never found a decent explanation.

Anyway back to the smoking, Swim has been usually mixing up his tar or powder by getting it soft with very little heart and then mixing it up with nugs of weed and tossing it in the bong for some fun. This has worked to ok affect however Swim still prefers 35mg Hydrocodone over any amount of Heroin................

Does the water in Swim's bong absorb the opiates or what? this really helps the smoke go down Swim's throat however Swim knows if his withdrawals ever got bad enough he would probably smoke down any amount of smoke off the foil, no matter how shitty he did it.

The foil method, even after absorbing visible (but small) puffs of smoke has produced little effect and sometimes none. Maybe Swim's heroin is just really really shit, i dunno.
Also Swim has recently lost his BIC and has been using his zippo but always makes sure to keep the flame farrrrr from the foil, is this ok?

[Junkhead23]

Zippo too strong a flame. It will burn the gear onto the foil. SWI need to use a normal disposable. Also smoking it in a bong will do nothing. Why not try snorting it. This is what SWIM used to do and to a greater effect than smoking. Remember SWIY only need to heat the H not burn.

[BuriedinFrost]

Swim just got it to work, he just placed the tooter farther into his mouth, stopped being such a bitch, and ripped up all the smoke he could get...swim his now royally fucked

[Junkhead23]

Oh well I am glad SWIY has managed

[BuriedinFrost]

Swim went out and bought another Bic lighter and damn it works way better, one of the reasons why the smoke hurt so much is because the zippo probably was way too hot of a flame. Swim is still pretty sure though that the tar he is fuxxin with is some low grade shit. Hopefully in the future swim will either purify his tar next time, or search for a better hook.

[Nahbus]

Why not use a lightbulb vaporizer (hollowed and cleaned out lightbulb, with a soda cap and tube on the end)?
SWIM would think that this method would minimize waste moreso than trying to catch all the smoke with a tube (I mean, the smoke has nowhere to go except to your lungs with a lightbulb vapo)
SWIM has done this a few times (he usually snorts dope, but smokes it and shoots it on rare occasions - y'know, to mix things up a bit) and it seemed to work very well.

Anyway, it's pretty easy to make, just take a lightbulb (preferably a clear one. but if you use a white one be sure to clean all of the white residue out before using!), take a blade/knife and cut the very end of the metal base off, leaving the screw threads on the metal lip. Pull/break/scrape all of the glass and wires out, and clean it very good (SWIM usually uses salt and alcohol). Take a soda cap and put 2 holes in it. One of the holes will hold your tube (SWIM uses a glass eyedropper, but you can use a pen/straw/whatever. SWIM just likes using glass tubes). The other hole is just for air flow.
Simply drop your dope in the lightbulb, screw the cap back on, and light as usual.
Quick, easy and very efficient.

[BuriedinFrost]

so swim has A question about that bong he was smoking his tar out of. If opiates are water soluble and di-acetylmorphine being more soluble than morphine...could swim drink that bong water and get fucked up? Like tea?

[Nahbus]

Originally Posted by BuriedinFrost

so swim has A question about that bong he was smoking his tar out of. If opiates are water soluble and di-acetylmorphine being more soluble than morphine...could swim drink that bong water and get fucked up? Like tea?

Well, heroin isn't all that effective when taken orally, so even if there happened to be a large amount in the water it wouldn't work too well.
I have a question, though: is there any reason that SWIY is smoking heroin through a bong? Direct flame can destroy much of the dope at that high temp, and SWIM supposes there is a risk of some of the product being absorbed into the water. This just seems like a very inefficient and wasteful way of smoking heroin.

[BuriedinFrost]

Basically it comes down to Swim is a bitch and also doesn't know much about how heroin holds up to the processes in which it's done (Bioavailability, resistance to heat, etc. etc.) Swim's nose is SUPER sensitive, even nasal spray from the drug store hurts his hose, Swim has a phobia of needles and certain sharp objects, and until today when swim just decided to man up, the smoke from his tar was WAYYYYYYYYYY harsh, he has no idea what the crap is cut with and almost thinks he might be smoking part plastic or wax in that black/brown crap. Swim would make sure to mix a nug of tar up with a nug of weed about double its size and get it reallllly good and mixed. This made Swim's weed last 10x longer and swim was always careful to never let the lighter touch his weed, he would simply suck the heat towards the bowl until the stuff started combusting because Swim likes to try and conserve all of his substances.

BuriedinFrost added 1 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

As for swim fearing it's absorbtion into the water, he figured that it wasn't possible for ALL the stuff to be absorbed into the water and so with a fat enough bong rip, he should still get pretty smacked up.

BuriedinFrost added 2 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

As for swim fearing it's absorbtion into the water, he figured that it wasn't possible for ALL the stuff to be absorbed into the water and so with a fat enough bong rip, he should still get pretty smacked up.

[Junkhead23]

Using a bong isn't a very effective way of smoking gear in fact it is nigh on useless.

[BuriedinFrost]

yeah Swim began to come to this conclusion when he realized that 35mg hydrocodone oral got him way more fucked up than any amount of heroin through the bong, even chasing the dragon wasn't that great but it got swim noticably more fucked up, swim really believes his tar is total crap, however swim made the decision today when his stash ran out that it would probably be best for Swim to wait atleast a month or two before getting another hundred sack of hell dust.

[Junkhead23]

Maybe SWIY should try another dealer?

[BuriedinFrost]

How does a swim wander about the streets looking for Heroin anyway? Swim lives in the San Fransisco bay area and is reallllly close to Berkely, there are drugs floating around everywhere i look, but if i ask the wrong hippy for heroin i could get a lecture and a bunch of BS that swim doesn't want to deal with.

BuriedinFrost added 1 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

wow wtf am i talking about i've never wanted to do heroin, that was all my friend Swim...my bad i just woke up...

[WoundedMarine]

another way to do it is get a propane torch, a two butter knifes, paper clip, or a safety pin metal only, what you do is put what you wanna smoke on one knife and melt it but be carefull to not burn it and with other knife place it over flame and get red hot, take pin and from the knife with tar on it scrap a very small amount on it, (very small), and touch the pin to the red hot knife and inhale, make sure its close to your mouth about five inches away, the tar will smoke up as soon as you touch it so pay attention and be ready to inhale the smoke, hold for a sec and let out and repeat, another way is the same as above but make a hoton, similar to a bong, what you need is a plastic pop bottle(20oz) a buc plastic pen, and water, ok what you do is take the pen apart so you only have the tube, take a lighter and place it under middle of pen tube so the plastic gets warm and can bend, you bent it so its almost the shape of a V or number seven, than with the plastic bottle make a hole just big enough for the pen tube to fit has to be snug and air tight put the pen in so half is out and other half is inside the bottle, fill it with water just enough so the end of the tube insde in under water and you have a hoton, than with hot knife, and pin with tar touch the hot knife and suck up the smoke through the pen tube hole and hold it in. its so easy to make like a bong butcalled ahoton for smoking brown,

[Junkhead23]

Never heard of anyone doing a hot knife with gear. Done hotknifes wih ganja b4. No need for propane torch can use a cooker. Pacman has never seen this done with gear so can't comment really.

[PuKeTaG]

Why do people insist on smoking every single drug with some "nugs" of weed, as it has been said before countless times, pretty much the only drug that should have a direct flame applied to it should only be weed, a meth style pipe or chasing the dragon on some foil are the only ways it should be smoked otherwise it is a massive waste of money!

As for the hot knife bong idea it just seems so impracticable and so much effort for something that wouldn't even work anyway, unless you are an octopus who doesn't mind drinking bong water, since most of the goodies will be in the water instead of going into your lungs.

SWIM have heard of the lightbulb method and it seems like a very efficient way to smoke, SWIM will try this soon.

SWIM hopes he hasn't been too abrasive, it's just that he's been having a bad day.

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excellent points, thanks for the input

[chinpokomaster]

Here's a quote from the SWIMology:

"Rip off two bits of tinfoil with about the dimensions of a Nintendo DS. Wrap one around a pen until it forms a tube and rip off any tattered ends. Put an arbitrary amount of heroin onto the second piece of tin foil and bend slightly to form a channel for the stuff to sit in. Crush up the heroin into a fine powder if lumpy and spread slightly. Using an adjustable lighter on the lowest flame setting possible, heat underneath the heroin whilst continuously breathing in through the straw close to the source of the smoke, until all the powder has turned into a browny-black glue. Heat this glue from underneath and continue breathing as above, using the position of the lighter to dictate the direction in which the H travels. Hold in each breath for a few seconds and slowly release. Tilting the foil slightly can help move it to "fresh" bits of the foil".

[baron samedi]

Can anyone describe the art of "spotting" as oppose to "running" as SWIM heard this is a better method for a newbie to use? Does he just put small "spots" of powder on a flat piece of foil and smoke it as he would do when running, and then keep repeating this untill he's smoked enough? He doesn't want to smoke more than half a bag so he has some left for later.
People mention snorting, but SWIM thought this is only feasible with the high grade stuff. He's a UK dweller and the gear he has is of the light brown/greyish variety. He's been advised in another thread not to bother snorting this.
Was told by a friend recently about smoking it in a crack pipe, with a certain type of gauze. AnySWIY else use this method?