Drug info - Quaaludes/Mandrax/Methaqualone

[Nagognog2]

As a fool that Bongo was back yonder in the 1970's when methaqualone was widely available, I can assure you that something that takies 150mgs. to make you drowsy and spread your legs - it's not worth going to jail for 10 years to manufacture it.

Best advice? Forget it. Go buy a Gremlin. Blech.

[Lobsang]

damn lol swim didnt know they were that strong.. i hope he doesnt do anything like that.. and what are quaaludes?

LOL...What are Quaaludes. I wish SWIM was young again. Damn it! Well SWIy they were a sleeping pill that doctors prescribed all the time in th e 70s. They were called 714s or Lemmons ect..

They basically were a short acting highly powerful sleep aid. That if you took at night and wanted to sleep would put you right out. But if you took them and stayed awake they made you really high but not sleepy. Kind of numb anddrunk like but not exactly drunk. Even one would make you pretty high and a couple would really Fu** you up. They were really popular. Doctors prescribed them to a lot of people. You could also shave them up and smoke them and get really high. They were so good that the DEA forced them to be taken off the market. They contained methaqualone. It is totally illegal in the USA. They were produced by 2 companies I believe. Rhore and Lemmon. I do not know if it is still used in any other country or synthesized for sale on the street.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone

What is ashame is that they really worked well as a sleep aid. They put you right out. And they were safe. Because if someone OD'd on them they did not stay in the system that long and did not supress repiration as much as other things. But they could be dangerous in the sense that one was really high on them they could be reckless and get hurt.

[Panthers007]

That would be Rorer. The infamous Rorer 714's, dude. Hop in my Pacer and let's go Disco, baby! Maybe you'll get lucky and meet my Sweat-Hog. What's your sign? Did you say you were a female?

Such were the times. The real Hippies didn't cut their hair. The phonies put on Leisure-Suits and drove Leisure-cars. Like the Pacer and Gremlin. They looked like Moon-Buggies from the last Apollo Missions. And they got laid with 'Ludes.

Methaqualone could get you very high. Wrecked was more like it. And they were alleged to make "babe's spread easy, dude." They also could kill you easy if you mixed them with alcohol, Valium, so forth regards downers/narcotics. Mixing them with speed was common.

Because they were rumored to make getting laid more easy, the shit hit the fan and the DEA got them taken from the market and placed into Schedule I. Bad, bad, bad!

In that the precursors for this molecule is heavily watched/controlled -and the dosage is so high, you'd have to be on 'Ludes, dude to want to bother synthesizing this one. Being in love and being honest - and maybe a good Merlot - would get one further.

[Dexyfiend]

I first heard of 'ludes' from a video game funnily enough. The game was called "Dopewars" (I'm sure you lot have heard of it) and the aim of the game was the buying and selling of drugs for profit (duh).
The cheapest drugs you could buy in the game were ludes and I always wondered what they were (this was back in about 97).
I realize they're not made anymore but SWIM tells me he'd love to try them

[ChoppedandFaded]

SWIM is wondering, how come Mandrax in tablet form is smoke-able? SWIM was under the impression that most (if not all) pills are not intended to be smoked due to the m.p of certain drugs and also the harmful effects on ones lungs as a result of inhaling binders and fillers.

Does Methaqualone have a low enough m.p that it could be successfully smoked? Swim is puzzled by this as not many of the old users (when it was still around) report ever smoking the pills.

[Lobsang]

Originally Posted by ChoppedandFaded

SWIM is wondering, how come Mandrax in tablet form is smoke-able? SWIM was under the impression that most (if not all) pills are not intended to be smoked due to the m.p of certain drugs and also the harmful effects on ones lungs as a result of inhaling binders and fillers.

Does Methaqualone have a low enough m.p that it could be successfully smoked? Swim is puzzled by this as not many of the old users (when it was still around) report ever smoking the pills.

Well SWIM does not know anything about melting points and such. But yes it can be smoked and it is very effective that way. And as SWIM has heard there are very negative effects on the lungs. SWIM beleives it is established that it causes emphysema. Though he cannot find a study. But yes SWIM has smoked it and the effects are very real.

[Politicalchalk]

Actually, at least 2 drugs of that class are currently produced in Canada. One imagines it'd only be Rxed in dire situations. Methaqualone and Mecloqualone if I recall correctly.

Not sure about actual Rx rates; again, it seems like a drug (from it's notoriety) that is only given to hospice patients, etc.

[UseDontAbuse]

An interesting note that I didn't see posted but methaqualone was one of the ingredients in the popular 'black beauties' methamphetamine capsules from back in the day.

That's what took the edge off and made them the most popular speed you could get.

BTW - what's all this SWIM SWIY stuff? I understand the purpose and it seems the M in SWIM could stand for ME while the Y in SWIY would be YOU. Can someone fill me in?

[Samadhi]

^^^^
read the rules and "about the forum" stickies again, it is all there. Yes, swiy is used to show 'someone who is not you' it is often used not to refer to ones self, but to refer to a person who you are giving advice ect.

Quaaludes and Methamphetamine combo would be quite an interesting roll for certain. Swim could see problems with BP and an awful crash if the MQ doesn't knock one out after the initial period of effects is over.

does swiy have any documented evidence that MQ was in the old black beauty caps?

[tyranny4u]

in Switzerland methaqualone (TM "Toquilone") was oficially taken
from the market in 2006. i don't think that in Belgium there is any
Methaqualone containing product on the market, correct me if i'm wrong

[UseDontAbuse]

Originally Posted by Samadhi

Quaaludes and Methamphetamine combo would be quite an interesting roll for certain. Swim could see problems with BP and an awful crash if the MQ doesn't knock one out after the initial period of effects is over.

does swiy have any documented evidence that MQ was in the old black beauty caps?

Closest documentation I could find is here - http://issuu.com/pureskills/docs/hightimesencyclopedia

It's an online copy of the High Times Drug Encyclopedia. If you do a search for the appropriate text "an intriguing blend of methaqualone with two types of amphetamine" it pops right up.

Go to page 303 in the right side column about halfway down under "Dexamyl" it mentions Biphetamine T (Black Beauties) as "an intriguing blend of methaqualone with two types of amphetamine".

SWIM might have had a friend who's parents were both on BB's and left them sitting around the house where anyone could grab a few. SWIM found it impossible to stand still while being fitted for a tux for his older sister's wedding after such a find.

[ConcertaXL]

An early poster referred to Methaqualone as a MAJOR tranquiliser... This is simply incorrect, all drugs intended to cause sleeping/anxiety relief are Minor tranquilisers (benzos, barbs, methaqualone, meprobamate, Doriden/glutethimide, etc.) Major Tranquilisers are Anti-PSYCHOTIC medications, such as Thorazine, Haldol, Risperdal and Seroquel. In low doses under medical supervision they may occasionally be used to treat anxiety or for other "off label" conditions but self-medicating with them is a seriously risky act. These are not appropriate for recreational use- often, highly dysphoric and with dangerous physical side effects- and calling them "tranquilisers" is a confusing, rather dated medical phrase.(Some fail to produce sedation at current standard doses).

[Pumpkin]

If somebody says they got quaalude for sale now (especially in the US) its most likely diazepam. ive seen some alleged quaaludes and after some online research found that there has been a considerable amount of prescription knock-offs. also heard of some fake OC 80s that were actually fentanyl... caused some ODs for sure... sucks

[Jatelka]

^^^ Indeed.

If one takes an occasional look at "microgram" (the dea's newsletter, not linked to here because of the cookies they use), Fake Quaaludes seem to turn up quite often in the US.

[yaba]

Has anyone any info/story's about mandrax ? Sorry if there is already a tread, I did USFSE.

It was used as a safer barbiturate in the 1960 till about 1980. Had a look on wiki but not enough time to copy and paste articles. Plus swim wanted to hear personal experiences from people who are or have used it.

As one of swims friends who is 20 years older then swim told him about it and he said it was the best thing after diconal (there is a tread for diconal already and swim would love to read experiences.)

It would be hard to get such drugs now. But where there is a will, there is a way... Maybe a lot of luck and asking the right people and paying a lot will help !

Any info would be appreciated here for mandrax, and UTFSE for diconal.

Just looked and for some reason there was already a tread and I even posted in the right place (think swim is getting demented)

Thanks

[Smirnoff]

[ Methaqualone is still produced in Canada under the name of Quaalude... It is Schedule III so it means it takes a prescription to possess... ]

SWIM wants to have a prescription to have Quaaludes (for a totaly legitimate reason) what would he have to say to his doctor and how would he have to act?

[missparkles]

Sparkles was prescribed Mandrax from 1973 until 1983-5 when docs stopped prescribing em. She was put on Doridon after that.
The reason she believes docs stopped prescribing them was cos they had an amnesiac effect and people would take em, forget, and take more. Sparkles had a couple of accidental ODs with them. But at the time they were seen as much safer than barbiturates. Barbiturates were deadly, so many junkies died in the 70s as a result of barbiturates. Lot's got sick through barb intoxication.
In the 60s-70s little was known about the long term effects of these drugs, they were seen as new and exiting, a cure all for everything. Same as benzo's were when they first came to prominence.
Yaba don't mention "pinks" (Diconal).
Both were smooth, mellow drugs, they'd slide you into a high, but if you got the dose wrong they'd also keep you there. Taken with booze or mixed with other drugs they became incredibly unsafe. Sparkles was dabbling with her damn life then, she's now beginning to realise.
Hope this helps someone.
Sparkles.

[yaba]

Originally Posted by missparkles

Sparkles was prescribed Mandrax from 1973 until 1983-5 when docs stopped prescribing em. She was put on Doridon after that.
The reason she believes docs stopped prescribing them was cos they had an amnesiac effect and people would take em, forget, and take more. Sparkles had a couple of accidental ODs with them. But at the time they were seen as much safer than barbiturates. Barbiturates were deadly, so many junkies died in the 70s as a result of barbiturates. Lot's got sick through barb intoxication.
In the 60s-70s little was known about the long term effects of these drugs, they were seen as new and exiting, a cure all for everything. Same as benzo's were when they first came to prominence.
Yaba don't mention "pinks" (Diconal).
Both were smooth, mellow drugs, they'd slide you into a high, but if you got the dose wrong they'd also keep you there. Taken with booze or mixed with other drugs they became incredibly unsafe. Sparkles was dabbling with her damn life then, she's now beginning to realise.
Hope this helps someone.
Sparkles.

Thanks Sparkles, swims friend told him with mandrax (mandy's) you need to drink a half pint of beer and you could be in any place in the world.... Ss for "pinks" (Diconal) swims friend used to bounce chemist... And had loaths of them and when he injected one into his wife she said: stop am having a hearth attack ! Then she said am alright now... Later a friend of him said the same thing: stop am having a hearth attack, swims friend said: NO THIS IS THR BEST PART !!!! Swims friend told him many story's about Mandrax and Diconal... And its one of swims things to try before you die.. But he isn't sure if he can get hold of either of them. Swims friend is 50+ and swim is 30 so he had the good old stuff.. While swim had his years in the MDMA time. Obviously there was more then the MDMA time but swim really liked the Amsterdam night life when everyone is of there face on pills...

[Smirnoff]

Originally Posted by Smirnoff

[ Methaqualone is still produced in Canada under the name of Quaalude... It is Schedule III so it means it takes a prescription to possess... ]

SWIM wants to have a prescription to have Quaaludes (for a totaly legitimate reason) what would he have to say to his doctor and how would he have to act?

EDIT: its not sold under the name of quaalude but under the name of Mandrax.. same molecule different market name