Dose - Bottle to blotter

[beach]

My friend has 100 drops of LSD and a plentyful amount of blotter.
What is the the best method to transfer the LSD to the blotter and does anything else need to be added.

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[lineartransform]

Cut blotter in 1/4 or 1/2 inch squares (big!). Eyedropper. 1 drop per pre-cut square. Let dry.

If you try to soak the blotter in a tray or similar, your losses will be tremendous.

What is your motivation for removing it from the dropper bottle? If stored properly, it will be much more stable than a bunch of random blotter you did yourself.

[beach]

Don't know, prob thinkin this would be the best way to do it.
Do you have any other suggestions then?

[lineartransform]

I would store the dropper bottle itself sealed in a small ziploc bag or two with (ideally) a oxygen absorbing packet. The ziploc itself may then be kept in the freezer or fridge.

[beach]

and do what with it though just drop on the tongue or on blotter just before use?

Sorry to sound daft but i want him to get this right

[lineartransform]

Just dropping on the tongue is typical. Just be careful - it's actually pretty hard to see the dropper and it's easy to let off far more drops than you want.

If you're paranoid, just drop the correct # of drops into a small glass of water, drink it, add a bit more water + swish to get the tiny remnants, and drink again.

[MindNRA]

SWIY used to have a similar vile. You can drop it on a small piece of break and eat it. Or an apple, whatever floats your boat. It lasts quite a bit but still make sure put it into air proof container away from the sun and hot temperatures. Mine lasted for a year and then some of the liquid turned green and i threw the remains away because I was rather be safe and sure.

[ADVOR]

Just keep the vial in 2 oxygen absorbing bags and when someone wants a dose, give them a sugar cube or something similar with a drop in it.

[porchy]

SWIM wouldn't put their acid in tap water, chlorine degrades LSD (I believe) and chlorine may be present in tap water. Use distilled water preferably.

[Samadhi]

Tap water can and will destroy LSD, LSD is best stored under heavy refridgeration in liquor or ethanol in a dark freezer. but DH2O will work fine in this situation.

Laying blotter with liquid is more trouble than it is worth, save the convenience and just dose out the liquid onto cubes or vanilla wafers and let the sunshine flow. blotters will degrade faster and are not the best way to dose in the first place.

[Evil GIR]

Swim sugests your friend buys some sugar cubes, dose one drop onto each cube, then store in a air tight cold dark place with some oxyegen abosrbing material. That would probably be the easiest way to dose in a non liquid form.

[Songcycle67]

blotting liquid LSD to paper is one of the quickest ways to waste it. Most cooks lay the crystals onto the paper with very little liquid involved. Usually liquid drops are bigger and less potent by volume than the size drop that would be ideal in paper blotting.

SWIM would say blot onto some marshmallows or something equally absorbant. Bread is a good idea but can be too porous and leak. Same with sugarcubes. Cookies work well, but they can sometimes be too thick which leaves a puddle of LSD floating on the top of the cookie ready to spill out unless dried thoroughly. The little marshmallows in lucky charms are considered ideal by many.

[crackcityrocker]

swim hears tell that dropping cid onto teddy bears works well. as do sweet tarts (there is a little depression in the middle of them to drop it into)

[fatal]

too make proper blotter you must have crystal involved. its too late im afraid. its really quite a simple process. i dont see why it is so hard to understand. im sure it would be preferred by all i not explain this to everyone though.

[Raoul duke420]

Swim has had liquid dropped on blotter paper , let it dry and taken it weeks later and tripped balls, seems to work fine if you are workin with good liquid

[nanobrain]

say you have 100 drops, the luxury of potentially wasting same and a square sheet of 100 blanks. if set on making blots, get a flat bottom glass tray, slightly larger than your 'sheet.' take the vial of liquid empty in tray and using small pincers place the paper, printed side up and blank side into the liquid, let absorb while stirring the sheet w/pincers gently to ensure even coverage.

depending on the paper, it is still likely you will have excess liquid in the bottom of the tray. unless your liq supplier is an absolute moron, it is likely the solution is something like 70/30% ethanol/distilled water and will dry rather quickly; hoping your blanks are pro printed w/non-destructive ink, you can turn the sheet over and absorb the remainder liquid, again trying for even coverage. if excess liquid is still there, a household hair dryer on no-heat setting can be used to airdry the sheet quickly while holding it with pincers and rotating, then put the sheet blank side down again into the tray of liq.

hopefully, by this time, there will be nothing in the tray (still pays to have a piece of 'mop' paper handy) and you are left w/a soggy piece of blotter paper, which can be final dryed w/a hair dryer, on low flow and no heat!!!

make sure you wear protective goggles and gloves as you will, without a doubt, take a significant amount of acid onboard otherwise - and let SWIM tellya, LSD is transdermally active to be sure. should proper procedure be followed - voila, you have your first sheet. having the right paper is very important, dont try to make this at home. if you

[Songcycle67]

With the above method, assuming an average drop of LSD contains 250ug (a shitload), the amount of space that a blot of liquid that size would take up would be around 4x the size of a normal blotter tab. And that's using fairly potent drops, with average drops SWIY'd be lucky to fill up half a page with two hits. The way the water/crystals spread once they bond to the paper is just naturally adverse to making doses of LSD.

Too wasteful and inappropriate iswimso.

[nanobrain]

^i beg to differ. while it is true that liquid in bottles is generally more dilute than that used to lay paper, should the solution be roughly 70/30% ETOH/H2O and drops calibrated >100 mikes, with thickish blanks one should have no problems. to increase porosity of surface, the noninked side of the sheet can be scoured once gently w/a fine grade sandpaper before application of liquid.

another method is to apply the liquid onto the sheet with a wide paintbrush letting dry as above before reapplication, should such be required. dont forget to rinse the empty bottle and the tray, herein the mop paper can come in handy.

[Songcycle67]

Increasing porosity and using very thick blanks it is feasible, but one would be hard pressed to produce your standard .25"x.25" square hits consistant with the potency of the original drops. The paintbrush method is an excellent suggestion.

It should be noted too that with the thick felt-like paper that research chemicals like DOB usually come on it would be easy to go from bottle to blotter (using a paintbrush or similar technique to make sure doses are distributed evenly) losing little potency from the original drops, but I've never seen those particular types of paper for sale.

[Dunk!]

Hi guys,

This is gonna sound really stupid and I'm sure there are a thousand threads on here that would answer my question; but the 'Search' tool isn't working!


The question:

How do I transfer the LSD in the bottle on to the blotting paper? (Evenly with the right dose on each square).

Thanks!

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Self-incriminates and doesn't UTSE. There is a topic that answers the exact same question.

[Songcycle67]

Hmm...no clue why the forums search engine is down; but it worked for me and there just so happens to be a thread with this very title dealing with the same issues:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...le+blotter+LSD


Additionally SWIM'll give you his take on the matter (which is further outlined in his posts in his thread):

Blotting is an extremely precise undertaking. Generally crystal is lain onto blotter, not water; but it is possible with patience. SWIY will have to procure some thick blotter, preferably the felt-like blotters used for DOx's and other Research Chemicals. Secondly they will have to make sure that each drop is precisely the same every time if they want the same dose throughout (almost impossible to do by hand). There are several suggestions in the thread I linked...my favorite being the paintbrush method in addition to sanding the blotter to make it more absorbant.

The real problem is that in a dropper, each drop contains a ton of water which spreads and leaks unlike crystals. It will be nearly impossible to maintain the same dose on every square, especially if SWIY intends to use the standard .25"x.25" hit size as a single drop (dose) may not fit on that size area unless the blotter is extremely thick.


For SWIM's tastes, he prefers blotting the marshmallows in lucky charms for long-term preservation/distribution. They are very absorbant, they dry quickly (though they must be given about 30 minutes to be safe), and they actually do quite a nice job of shielding the LSD if kept in a dark, cool, dry place. Making each hit the same shouldn't be hard, depending on SWIY's precision with a dropper. They'll definitely be in the same vicinity.


Edit: beaten to the punch!

[DarkDead]

Hi.
songcycle67, reading your post in another thread left me curious. (I'm posting here because it's where the discussion is on course.)

Originally Posted by songcycle67

Blotting is an extremely precise undertaking. Generally crystal is lain onto blotter, not water; but it is possible with patience.

How would be the technique if SWIM had crystal?
SWIM would weight the amount of crystal to distribute. Imagining it was a 900 blotter sheet at 200ug per hit SWIM would have to weight 180mg of LSD (a value that a Tanita or similar can accomplish).
Now how could SWIM assure an even distribution throughout all the hits?

[Songcycle67]

SWIM says:

To be honest I'm not sure exactly how it's done. I believe the crystals are placed in a solution that is slightly hydrated so as to make them easy to spread out evenly across the sheet--otherwise you'd just end up with a bunch of white powder sitting on top of the paper. There are several threads on here that discuss the process in depth but the search engine is down for me at the moment.

I'd wager that for most small operations the crystals are hydrated to an appropriate water/LSD ratio to provide the wanted dose (probably less than 3 ml of water for every 100 hits) and then the sheets are soaked/dried over a period of hours to allow for proper saturation.

There would definitely have to be some sort of dillution involved and I can't think of anything that would be more stable than good ol' distilled water.

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