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Old 07-11-2008, 08:43
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New to Shooting

Swim is kind of new to shooting he has done it maybe 15-20 times now and has a few questions he would like help answered.

A few times that swim shot up he noticed he didn't feel that a high as he thought he should have. Is it possible to miss the vein even if when you pull the plunger out you see a bunch of blood? Or swim was just thinking its not that great of H. Also swim wants to know if its ok to reuse a rigg maybe 2-3 times before throwing away??? Swim also wants to know if swim puts like 50 cc's of water on the spoon when he gets all the stuff in the needle sometimes it only has 40ccs when i put 50ccs of water and then whatever the H added in there.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:02
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Re: New to Shooting

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Swim is kind of new to shooting he has done it maybe 15-20 times now and has a few questions he would like help answered.

A few times that swim shot up he noticed he didn't feel that a high as he thought he should have. Is it possible to miss the vein even if when you pull the plunger out you see a bunch of blood? Or swim was just thinking its not that great of H. Also swim wants to know if its ok to reuse a rigg maybe 2-3 times before throwing away??? Swim also wants to know if swim puts like 50 cc's of water on the spoon when he gets all the stuff in the needle sometimes it only has 40ccs when i put 50ccs of water and then whatever the H added in there.
If swiy pulled back blood that pretty much means swiy is in a vein but it is possible to push it back out a little while shooting it, plus even if swiy did miss, within 10-20 minutes swiy should be feeling the full effect. In that case it sounds just like weak H or too low of a dosage (since opiates build a tolerance very fast and that could also be why swiy is not getting as high)

It is okay to use a rig 2-3 times before discarding but make sure swiy rinses it out thoroughly before storing, but it's best to use a new rig everytime.

the reason swiy pulls back less liquid after preparing the heroin is because some of the water burns off or evaporates when swiy is cooking it up. its perfectly normal and none of swiys heroin is going with it, that stays in the spoon.

hope this helps!
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Old 07-11-2008, 17:16
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Re: New to Shooting

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Swim is kind of new to shooting he has done it maybe 15-20 times now and has a few questions he would like help answered.

A few times that swim shot up he noticed he didn't feel that a high as he thought he should have. Is it possible to miss the vein even if when you pull the plunger out you see a bunch of blood? Or swim was just thinking its not that great of H. Also swim wants to know if its ok to reuse a rigg maybe 2-3 times before throwing away??? Swim also wants to know if swim puts like 50 cc's of water on the spoon when he gets all the stuff in the needle sometimes it only has 40ccs when i put 50ccs of water and then whatever the H added in there.
Yes, but I'd be surprised to hear you haven't blown a shot yet and know what that's like. Then again I guess you probably still have fresh veins. Just to say it, if you start getting a bubble, or have a little lump left over, you've blown at least some of it. Massage that little bitch under hotwater as much as you can to get it to your brain asap. Sometimes you'll get the register, still be blowing it, register again, and still be blowing it. If you are blowing it, just stop. SWIM would have like a gallon of pure heroin juice if he would have just stopped all the times he was so pissed about starting to blow it that he just forced a huge lump into himself.

SWIM has found after a long time of use, that anything in your arms, shoulders, chest, or hips (never shot the dick, so can't comment: the one line I have yet to cross) is going to give you a decent rush. Some veins are better than others in those areas though, so either that or bad dope might account for your lack of high.

2-3 times is probably ideal. After that is when they start dulling. Dull needles = blown veins.

Here's the most important thing SWIM would recommend to you. Find 3-4 veins and rotate them. I guarantee every H shooter here wishes they would have done that when they started, because almost 2 years later SWIM still has no shootable wrist, forearm, or back of hand veins. After you fuck them up they for the most part break up into smaller non-shootable veins, and are lost for good once you blow them. So rotate!
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Re: New to Shooting

The people before me have it mostly covered, but I can't stress how important it is to not use the same rig for too long. When idiot swim started using it was really hard to get rigs and she used the same one for like a month and FUCKED her one vein up very quickly.
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Re: New to Shooting

Yes, rotate veins, filter well, and don't overuse needles.

Swim personally would never use a needle more than 1-2 total times, and only on the same day.

When reusing, rinse out the needle with hot water. Swim always also dips the needles into 100 proof alcohol to sanitize and rinses it with water.
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Re: New to Shooting

thanks for all the help guys swim bought a pack of ten needles and have used all of them at least once and some of them twice or maybe even three times. Swim rinses them out with water after every shot he takes. Is that good enough if i wash it out right after use drawing water and rinsing probably about 5 times ??

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swim also wants to say that he noticed nothing different with the needles that have been reused its not harder to get in or anything it actually feels easier for some reason. What exactly can happen for reusing them? I rinse them out throughly every time.

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sorry to keep adding swim always thinks of stuff to add after writing his original but swim would like to go over my steps just to make sure all is well.
Put H on spoon then add water then use lighter under spoon then use plunger to mix then put cotton on spoon then draw it into the needle then tap for bubbles then shoot. Is that right ?? Sorry if it sounds a bit confusing but swim has to run.

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Re: New to Shooting

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..What exactly can happen for reusing them? I rinse them out throughly every time.

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sorry to keep adding swim always thinks of stuff to add after writing his original but swim would like to go over my steps just to make sure all is well.
Put H on spoon then add water then use lighter under spoon then use plunger to mix then put cotton on spoon then draw it into the needle then tap for bubbles then shoot. Is that right ?? Sorry if it sounds a bit confusing but swim has to run.
The needle will still look sharp to the naked eye but in reality the needle tip is being completely destroyed. If reused alot you can seriously damage your veins. SWIM's box of needles actually came with a picture of a needle used once and then another picture of a needle used a ton. It did not even look like a needle tip anymore. Can only been seen with a microscope though. In SWIM's opinion use a needle only once if possible. As for your steps:
1)Put h on spoon
2)Put up to 30 units of clean water on spoon with h
3)Heat spoon till almost boil
4)Use plunger (on needle? black rubber piece?) to mix solution
5)Drop cotton swap on spoon
6)Suck up solution
7)Stick into vein
9)Pull back plunger to see if there is blood
10)Let her loose, enjoy

SWImickey bee:
-Keep everything clean/sterile.
-Only use a tourniquet/belt if you have to, and release after registering blood but before shooting home.
-Pick an obvious big vein, and go for that one.
-Inject in direction of blood flow, i.e the end of the pin pointing up your arm towards your armpit, NOT POINTING DOWN YOUR ARM TOWARDS YOUR HAND.
-Keep the needle as flat against your arm as possible, so the needle's running along the inside of the vein.
-Push the needle in in one firm movement. If you push it in too hesitantly it increases the risk of the vein rolling, and can do unnecessary damage.
-Inject slowly so you can pull out if you're not in a vein, or if it's hitting you too hard.
-Don't be afraid to poke around for the vein if you don't find it first time.

And preferably have someone around in case you need help. And remember to only use a tiny bit first!

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