Smoking - Smoking Cocaine HCl powder

[buster]

swim has had stuff go a bit sticky on him before so he smoked the stuff with hot knives......yeah his heart was racing but he said there wasnt much of a high. probably better off learning how to cook it.

[suninmy_MOUTH]

Originally Posted by tyrantfour

swit has a similar question, the bic pen he uses to snort get a lot of coke residue after a gram or so

heh, SWIM can't help but think that "residue" is just SWIYs boogers mixed with some of the powder on the way up the pen. First ever snot high!

[Danc9552003]

SWIM really can't believe so many people just put coke right into cigs/blunts, all it's gonna do is MAYBE numb your lips and that's all. Just put it on some foil with some baking soda, mix with a drop or two of water, and smear it around. It's such a great high, and SWIM really thinks it feels different than crack itself.

[tyrantfour]

i dont know much about crack and not really ready to go through that door, but isnt that the same as crack? and why would you want to add baking soda?

[Danc9552003]

From what SWIM has heard adding the baking soda lowers the melting temp. or something so it will actually smoke. And SWIM isn't sure, but it really does feel like 2 different highs, but maybe that's just him

[suninmy_MOUTH]

Originally Posted by Danc9552003

From what SWIM has heard adding the baking soda lowers the melting temp. or something so it will actually smoke. And SWIM isn't sure, but it really does feel like 2 different highs, but maybe that's just him

hmmm. SWIM has been wondering how people smoke the powder. most of the posts on here say it doesn't work, or like above, gotta mix with with a cig. but a friend of a friend of SWIMs actually had a seizure from smoking cocaine. thing is, SWIM knows that area of bumblefuck does not have crack. unless that person was doing the whole process of preparing freebase or crack... which SWIM doubts, coz that person is lazy, he must've been just smoking the powder somehow.

not to frighten anyone, but that person, post-seizure, has a big upside down U shaped scar on the side his head, walks with a limp, and basically has become mentally handicapped. be careful!

[doggy_hat]

Originally Posted by Danc9552003

From what SWIM has heard adding the baking soda lowers the melting temp. or something so it will actually smoke. And SWIM isn't sure, but it really does feel like 2 different highs, but maybe that's just him

Cocaine is a Hydrochloride Salt. By adding a base(Baking Soda in this case) it cleaves the Hydrochloride group, leaving behind Freebase Cocaine. Which has a lower vaporisation level that makes it effective to smoke. Smoking Cocaine Hydrochloride doesn't work because the tempature needed to vaporise it, and the temperature needed to destroy it are too close to eachother.

[Benga]

Originally Posted by doggy_hat

Smoking Cocaine Hydrochloride doesn't work because the tempature needed to vaporise it, and the temperature needed to destroy it are too close to eachother.

this is the part that is currently under discussion. read the posts above.
we are looking for evidence / studies which proves that cocaine HCl is, or is not, mostly lost to pyrolysis when smoked.

[Nicaine]

It's possible people have been effectively smoking the cut, which might consist of ephedrine or caffeine... could possibly explain the racing heartbeats, etc. If not, some coke probably does get into the bloodstream, just relatively little compared to smoking the freebase form.

[tyrantfour]

yes you can deffinitely expect some euphoria (or just light headedness). if you drop about half a line in the tip of the cigarette. but when doing this, you gonna smells something very different and the tip of the cig turns black, and likely you will have to re-light it a few times. all depending on how muchyou put in. kinda of a long process for a 2 min spell. at best.

[Jatelka]

Threads merged for forum tidying purposes.

Please bear in mind that the earliest posts are from BEFORE df got strict on the "SWIM" thing.

This is NOT a license to self-incriminate

[KomodoMK]

How about snorting crack? Would that have any effect or would it not absorb properly?

[markdahman]

Im almost for certain that it isnt very soluble in water therefore you can not snort crack! Its made into crack for a reason, son.

[crackcityrocker]

would it be worthwile to mix a small amount of cocaine with baking soda, add a couple drops of water, and smear on a cigarette (then let cigarette dry and smoke)? swim doesnt see why there would be a problem with this unless it had a tendency to not stick to the cigarette once it was dry. and that problem could be overcome by rolling swiy's own cigarettes and smearing the mixture on the inside of the paper before rolling.

[Benga]

read up on the foily thread by browsing the forum with the "smoking" prefix.

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[robbinthehood]

SWIM is new to the forum and is fairly experienced with other drugs and just recently came into cocaine. Swim uses a hakko soldering iron with a ceramic heating element to smoke bud and it gets up to 1000 degrees. Now swim knows that you can not smoke a laced bowl efficiently. Would this higher temperature level almost make it a freebase level hit without all the dangers and a mad body buzz?

The idea is to lace a bowl heavily with maybe a lines worth of coke with a bowl and use the heating element to burn the bud with the higher temperature causing the coke and bud to burn together.

Discuss.

[PingoTango]

Not too sure about the cocaine, bu 1000 degrees would almost certainly destroy all of the actives in the cannabis before they get vaporised - I've seen diagrams of a home made vaporiser on the internet using a bong, a length of house and a Makita heat gun, and this site recommended an optimum temperature setting of 600 degrees if I recall correctly.

I could be wrong though, I'm dictating this to my typist and she's quite stoned...

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Props for the old school "typist" character as well as making her stoned.

[chinpokomaster]

The cocaine would be destroyed or denatured at a lower temperature than it's vapourised at. The only feasibly smokeable form of cocaine is freebase.

[Woodman]

Smoking powdered cocaine to get high is like
soaking your hands in water to quench your thirst; it
doesn't work.

Cocaine needs to be converted into crack before you
can smoke it.

The crack rock can be chopped into powder and
mixed with weed in a joint.

[Silentscream]

It is dangerous to smoke coke, because the cocaine actually vapourised, then recrystalises inside your lungs - too much of this could cause irritation, leading to various other problems.

[raven3davis]

Originally Posted by Woodman

Smoking powdered cocaine to get high is like
soaking your hands in water to quench your thirst; it
doesn't work.

Cocaine needs to be converted into crack before you
can smoke it.

The crack rock can be chopped into powder and
mixed with weed in a joint.

HAHA I love that. IMO smoking coke is pointless. That is what crack is for. SWIM has smoked many "primo" joints and sweets and its pretty much a waste of good coke.

[b16a]

Take the filter out of a cigarette, along with about 1/3 of the tobacco. Put out a skinny line about 5 inches long and suck it through the unlit cigarette. Roll a filter as you would for joint and put it one end, then twist the opposite end tight. Light 'er up and smoke it like a joint! Here's a tip: it will burn fast, so don't take your time. Hold in the smoke as long and as deep as you can. It will hit you within 60 seconds, but only last for approx. 5 minutes. SWIM calls these 'cocoa puffs', and they're best smoked at the end of the night.

[psyki]

SWIM can't speak for anyone else but smoking coke definitely works for
him. It's certainly not like doing a fat line or smoking crack
but just sprinkling a little powdered cocaine on a bowl of weed or in
the end of a cigarette gets him high for sure.