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Old 02-11-2008, 05:08
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Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

Please Help.. Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

The Dr Phil show is having a show on Salvia in November. This is BAD. Dr Phil has a very large audience, and the show is very likely going to be highly negative. Probably all about kids going out and getting a hold of it, doing it, and then doing stupid stuff.

We need to make sure this show either:
a) does not air
b) air's with an unbiased viewpoint

You can register for Dr Phil's website here:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...%2Fregister%2F

Go to the message boards after signing up:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...essageboard%2F

I clicked on "feedback and help", and then clicked on "talk about the show", and posted my message (which you can read here, I am using the username falkenjeff http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...30662/#1030662 ).

Make sure that your messages are clear and informative, and NOT whiny and full of cursing and swearing. The messages are moderator reviewed before they are posted.

This alone is probably not enough. We need to email the show, and possibly phone them. Be willing to appear on the show, and explain why salvia is not dangerous, and why it should just be age restricted instead of banned (like alcohol and tobacco). We can't let the stupid kids who abuse it ruin it for us all.

This is the contact Dr Phil section:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...ntactdrphil%2F

This is the "email the show" option which is located in the section above. This may be the best option, but I dunno:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...FplugID%3D9164

This is the phone number for ordering tapes, so I dunno if you can do anything else with it:
1-866-437-7445

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I got this email from a facebook group, That's all it said, but it's plenty. Not sure when exactly the show is going to air, but it'll be interesting....
Just thought I'd expose it to more activists.

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Old 02-11-2008, 13:17
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

Thank you for bringing this to our attention!!!!!

If we get enough people to push for a fair and unbiased review of the plant on his forums then maybe...just MAYBE...a LARGE SCALE AUDIENCE OF PARENTS CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN WILL HEAR THE TRUTH ABOUT SALVIA AND STOP PUSHING FOR LEGISLATION!!!!!

This could be bad if he crumbles under what I'm almost sure SOMEONE is leaning on him to give the standard media review. But it could be SALVIA'S SALVATION if we put enough pulic pressure on him for the truth. I saw half a dozen comments on the board all being positive about Salvia. I also wrote my own! VIVA LA SALVIA!!

If he did do a good review on the product I would probably start watching the DrPhil show with fanatic devotion because I would fall in love with him. I have lots of love for anyone who stands up for the truth in spite of political pressure for misinformation based on occulted agendas.

THIS IS IT TELL YOUR SALVIA LOVING FRIENDS TO WRITE THEIR POSITIVE REVIEWS!!!!!!! PUSH PUSH PUSH!!!

Synopsis: NOT GOOD

Request is for:

Is your teen smoking Salvia?

Are you a teen or young adult who smokes Salvia with your friends?

Do you have a Salvia video on YouTube?

If you or someone you know smokes Salvia tell us your story below. Also, if you think your child might be smoking Salvia tell us your story below. Be sure to be specific and give detail!

Fuck that. SWIM IS APPLYING! Swim is an educated individual who uses and knows salvia. Furthermore he will make sure all the right things get said!

DONE! Will update If/when swim recieves a response!

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Old 02-11-2008, 14:09
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

Some of teh people recruited for this show were recruited from youtube videos,i know because my girlfriend was contacted and we almost made it on the show. While i think that this show shouldent happen i figured that they need at least one (semi)in tellegent person on ther to explain salvia beyond the kids that are going to be like: "oh dudez it fux u up soooo bad, i likez it more then when me n my friendz are huff'n gas" i think that the reason we werent acepted was because of our intelegence. they also seemed surprised that swim was a gfrower who only used salvia once or twice a year and that it caused no problems in my life. so if anyopne else trys to get on tell them you use it weekly or more and that your family life is falling apart becuase of it. illl have my lovely pirate wench upload any info she might still have around.
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

Argh...so they really are planning on smearing Salvia???

If Dr. Phil does this SWIM will be IRATE.

He may find a use for this wasted chemistry experiment in his basement after all!
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

SWIM was invited to be interviewed to be on the Dr. Phil show for the salvia segment. Below are the emails SWIM received from one of his assistants.
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My name is Nick and I am an assistant for the Dr. Phil Show. We are doing a segment on salvia and we were wondering if you would like to come on the show to discuss your experience. Please call me at (323) 956-3302 or email me at nick.durnhofer@cbsparamount.com. Thank you!
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If you need proof you can call me at (323) 956-3302
or email me at nick.durnhofer@cbsparamount.com.

As you can imagine, it would be pretty hard to forge a tv network's email. I suppose if you have a fax, I can email you papers, too.

Anyway, we are hoping to do a segment by the end of the month on salvia and it would be great to interview people who have used it. Sort of like a debate. Thus far, it seems mostly harmless but there are people who want to make it illegal.

Also, FYI: We pay for all hotel stays and flights, etc. )
This is the link for his YouTube acount, although I believe he only created it to get in touch with people who had posted salvia videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/nickatcbs

SWIM did the interview, but was not selected to go to LA. They asked questions about SWIM's mental and physical health, and also about the effects that salvia had on SWIM personally. They ask what the reason is for agreeing to be interviewed as a potential guest. Also they ask what your opinion is on the legal status. A few of the questions SWIM was asked included "What drugs have you done?" "Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental disorders?" "How often do you use salvia?" and "Have you ever been addicted to any drugs?"

They don't tell you that they haven't selected you though. SWIM was told that they decided not to do the segment, not that SWIM wasn't selected. This was the first I had heard about it actually being aired since September.
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

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SWIM was invited to be interviewed to be on the Dr. Phil show for the salvia segment. Below are the emails SWIM received from one of his assistants.



This is the link for his YouTube acount, although I believe he only created it to get in touch with people who had posted salvia videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/nickatcbs

SWIM did the interview, but was not selected to go to LA. They asked questions about SWIM's mental and physical health, and also about the effects that salvia had on SWIM personally. They ask what the reason is for agreeing to be interviewed as a potential guest. Also they ask what your opinion is on the legal status. A few of the questions SWIM was asked included "What drugs have you done?" "Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental disorders?" "How often do you use salvia?" and "Have you ever been addicted to any drugs?"

They don't tell you that they haven't selected you though. SWIM was told that they decided not to do the segment, not that SWIM wasn't selected. This was the first I had heard about it actually being aired since September.
Hmmm very interesting....Sounds like they didn't like your answers and still trying to stir the media pot by creating more controversy over salvia. It seems like they just want to see it banned and made a schedule 1 drug. I don't mind them doing a segment on this as long as they present both sides and not make it a one sided segment saying oooh salvia is bad and addictive and our kids are getting high off of it and its legal....such BS
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

swim just picked up some 60x yesturday, he should go on, trip, and just explain what he's feeling, instead of just seeing.
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swim just picked up some 60x yesturday, he should go on, trip, and just explain what he's feeling, instead of just seeing.

I think you would end up looking something like this: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l...via_shortfilms
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

ahahaha! Just something about that video got me laughin like a motherfucker, something only an experienced salvia user could enjoy. Damn, just what swim needed to get hyped up for a trip. He'll definitly report it.
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It's here....and it's as bad as we predicted...

Dr. Phil Newsletter - November 10 - November 14, 2008

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How well do you know your teenager? Could your child be participating in risky or illegal activities right under your own roof? One popular teen trend is smoking or snorting the herb salvia to get high, and some kids have posted videos of their "salvia trips" on YouTube. Rebecca says her 16-year-old son, Jerry, smokes salvia, and that he's withdrawn and failing school. Jerry wonders why his salvia use is a big deal to his mother, because he says she not only allows him to smoke in the house, but she uses salvia too! Dr. Travis Stork, host of the show The Doctors, gives some sobering statistics on teen salvia usage. Rebecca and Jerry both say salvia, which is legal in most states, shouldn't be outlawed in their home state. Texas State Representative Charles Anderson says he's doing everything in his power to make sure this hallucinogenic herb is banned. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, the "choking game" made headlines when it was reported that teens were dying or becoming seriously injured by strangling each other until passing out. Britt fears that her son, Kevin, may be starting a new version of this trend. Find out what it is, and watch shocking footage of Kevin engaged in this potentially deadly activity. And, "sex texting" is a new trend where teens send explicit photos of themselves via their cell phones. One mom says she caught her 12-year-old daughter forwarding nude photos of herself to boys and wonders what punishment she should impose. Plus, find out what you should do if you suspect your teen is involved in risky behavior.
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Hmmm snorting salvia. Never heard of that one Dr. Phil. You need to go do your research more before stating false facts and having a tv show about it
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Hmmm snorting salvia. Never heard of that one Dr. Phil. You need to go do your research more before stating false facts and having a tv show about it
Sadly...he apparently doesn't. The media really can pull anything out of their ass and throw it all over television but one rarely sees the truth given a moment. Yet the masses eat the shit up. Welcome to America.
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Sadly...he apparently doesn't. The media really can pull anything out of their ass and throw it all over television but one rarely sees the truth given a moment. Yet the masses eat the shit up. Welcome to America.
the worst part is the media themselves believe their lies, pushing the ignorance even further.......
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It's here....and it's as bad as we predicted...

Dr. Phil Newsletter - November 10 - November 14, 2008

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How well do you know your teenager? Could your child be participating in risky or illegal activities right under your own roof? One popular teen trend is smoking or snorting the herb salvia to get high, and some kids have posted videos of their "salvia trips" on YouTube. Rebecca says her 16-year-old son, Jerry, smokes salvia, and that he's withdrawn and failing school. Jerry wonders why his salvia use is a big deal to his mother, because he says she not only allows him to smoke in the house, but she uses salvia too! Dr. Travis Stork, host of the show The Doctors, gives some sobering statistics on teen salvia usage. Rebecca and Jerry both say salvia, which is legal in most states, shouldn't be outlawed in their home state. Texas State Representative Charles Anderson says he's doing everything in his power to make sure this hallucinogenic herb is banned. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, the "choking game" made headlines when it was reported that teens were dying or becoming seriously injured by strangling each other until passing out. Britt fears that her son, Kevin, may be starting a new version of this trend. Find out what it is, and watch shocking footage of Kevin engaged in this potentially deadly activity. And, "sex texting" is a new trend where teens send explicit photos of themselves via their cell phones. One mom says she caught her 12-year-old daughter forwarding nude photos of herself to boys and wonders what punishment she should impose. Plus, find out what you should do if you suspect your teen is involved in risky behavior.
Salvia is obviously a risky business....guilt by association with Texas, the choking game and a 12-year old whore.

SWIM thinks he'll write a letter. Not about the bias against salvia, and wrong facts and other junk....that's not the issue. Dr. Phil is not stupid....the people in his audience are. He knows this....and this is the source of his money. Get drunk with Dr. Phil and he'll gladly tell you that he doesn't give two shits about Salvia. SWIM's not that great of a writer, but if he could write, he would directly attack Dr. Phil's right to be a human being. SWIM's an atheist....but swim will gladly believe in a hell just for people like Dr. Phil and all the other cynics out there (like O'Reilly).

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Get drunk with Dr. Phil and he'll gladly tell you that he doesn't give two shits about Salvia.
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

It's a shame what this world's coming to...

Deaths Per Year from Alcohol-Use: 85,000
As far as I know, Salvia divinorum has been attributed to ZERO deaths and ZERO overdoses over the past 3,000 years.

Correct me if I'm ill informed?
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As far as I know, Salvia divinorum has been attributed to ZERO deaths and ZERO overdoses over the past 3,000 years.
There are plenty of illegal substances with these particular properties (especially the second one).
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It's a shame what this world's coming to...

Deaths Per Year from Alcohol-Use: 85,000
As far as I know, Salvia divinorum has been attributed to ZERO deaths and ZERO overdoses over the past 3,000 years.

Correct me if I'm ill informed?
According to one doctor and two Parents that statistic is 1. Of course if there's any truth to that assertion it's something like 0.1. Since the death was suicide there were a myriad of factors involved inevitably since it was not an overdose (LOL) which is impossible.

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when will this show air?

and will it be possible for SWIM to view it from the UK?
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

Wasn't there some kid on here just a couple of weeks ago bitching about how he'd been caught smoking salvia at school and the school had called in the cops, which is like, totally unfair, because salvia is legal, right? (Ans.: yes, but for how long?) As if any activity that isn't specifically illegal is necessarily a good idea, when you're a minor and at school at the time. I mean, Jebus H. Christ, talk about stupid.
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

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Wasn't there some kid on here just a couple of weeks ago bitching about how he'd been caught smoking salvia at school and the school had called in the cops, which is like, totally unfair, because salvia is legal, right? (Ans.: yes, but for how long?) As if any activity that isn't specifically illegal is necessarily a good idea, when you're a minor and at school at the time. I mean, Jebus H. Christ, talk about stupid.
Yeah I remember a story like that referring to getting caught smoking it at college
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

So. has this been aired yet?
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

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So. has this been aired yet?
It airs tomorrow Swim has it set to record on his DVR. Will make a report on it after watching it tomorrow.

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We can expect the worst from Dr. Phil. How can we go about stopping him????
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

It airs on the 11th.

Anyone else seen the preview/commercial thingy for this? Shit....
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Re: Salvia On The Dr Phil Show

Sounds stupid. SWIM has done salvia a few times, found it undesirable in comparison to other hallucinogens SWIM can just as easily acquire. SWIM is sad to see this turn of events. A child failing school as Dr. Phil headlined is not grounds for illegalizing a non-addictive, jolting herb. The subject of Dr. Phil should be PROPER PARENTING.
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