Combinations - GHB with crystal meth

[electrodeejay7]

Hi. Sort of new this this particular forum. Just wanted to know if anyone else notices a better high by using GHB in combo with crystal meth. It's seems, that is the ONLY way to get anything out of the GHB. By itself takes a much larger amount to get a high from it....and the high seems very week and just seems to only make you sleepy and that's it....(which I know that's what GHB really does anyway) But, If done in combo with meth and GHB together ......WOW! Absolutely amazing! Would love to here any experiences or opinions on this from others. Or where I might find more info on the GHB/meth combination as well. Thanks!

[FooManChoo]

Yeah, GHB with stimulants is pretty damn good. Great with MDMA and even K. But thats a somewhat risky one. Well sorta...

[MrG]

This is starting to wander very close to self-incrimination.

Please ensure that all conversation regarding illegal activities is reserved to that which concerns "Someone Who Isn't Me".

Also ensure that this thread stays on topic please, it is a discussion about the effects of GHB and Methamphetamine when taken together.

[robin_himself]

Please consider the health risks one takes when combining this two drugs. GHB makes the heart beat go slower and stimulants make it go up. Also the dose of GHB is hard to tell anyhow, especially when combining it with other substances

[MrG]

Actually there is research that supports the use of GHB in alleviating a number of negative effects related to stimulant use.

Most users state that it "rounds out" stimulants very, very well. What this actually translates as is a reduction in the typical stimulant signs of raised BP and HR as well as issues such as anxiety and even blood sugar being tempered by the GHB.

There is often the mistake made by the uninformed that combining GHB with stimulants is the same concept as a "speedball" (cocaine & heroin) with one substance being the "upper" and the other the "downer", the bodyload is significant, particularly for the heart.

However, this is incorrect as, whilst GHB's mode of action is to supress the CNS, it does this in a markedly different way to a traditional "downer".

With regards to Methamphetamine it would actually be, on the scale of things, safer to have had taken some GHB along with the Meth than it would be to take the Meth on its own.

Besides which, both Desoxyn (pharma Meth) and Xyrem (pharma GHB) are often prescribed for narcoleptic patients, one to keep them awake during the day, the other to help them properly sleep cycle at night.

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[ihavequestions]

Originally Posted by MrG

Actually there is research that supports the use of GHB in alleviating a number of negative effects related to stimulant use.

Most users state that it "rounds out" stimulants very, very well. What this actually translates as is a reduction in the typical stimulant signs of raised BP and HR as well as issues such as anxiety and even blood sugar being tempered by the GHB.

There is often the mistake made by the uninformed that combining GHB with stimulants is the same concept as a "speedball" (cocaine & heroin) with one substance being the "upper" and the other the "downer", the bodyload is significant, particularly for the heart.

However, this is incorrect as, whilst GHB's mode of action is to supress the CNS, it does this in a markedly different way to a traditional "downer".

With regards to Methamphetamine it would actually be, on the scale of things, safer to have had taken some GHB along with the Meth than it would be to take the Meth on its own.

Besides which, both Desoxyn (pharma Meth) and Xyrem (pharma GHB) are often prescribed for narcoleptic patients, one to keep them awake during the day, the other to help them properly sleep cycle at night.

swim has heard of this too. it definetly seems as though stimulants and GHB are actualy safe and does not act in the same way as the speedball. however swiy mentioned that GHB's action of cns depression is different from the regular downer such as benzos. however if GHB is combined with alcohol or other downers is is much more dangerous than combining say a benzo with alcohol so swim would THINK that GHB is a heavier downer in some aspects yet still safe in combo with stimulants. swim has also read that GHB also has a heavy effect on the heart significantly reducing heart rate as well as BP. so if GHB is such a heavy downer why is it safer than other downers in combination with a stimulant?

[v1cious]

Originally Posted by MrG

However, this is incorrect as, whilst GHB's mode of action is to supress the CNS, it does this in a markedly different way to a traditional "downer".

Can you elaborate how GHB's mode of action is different than that of traditional downers?

[Codehead]

Regular amphetamine has also very good synergy with GHB, also when adding some cannabis to it it feels just amazing.