Dose - how much pure mdma for a nice roll based on swims body weight??

[valantini]

swim weighs 87 kg and is 34. fit and healthy and strong.
has been doin mdma for 14 years.
hes thinkin of 2mg per 1kg

therefore 170mg sounds right ?

[Lettish]

So many factors effect how it reacts to someone. Each body is different to the next. Then Swiy has to consider tolerance and exactly how the chemical(s) are broken down and how the body processes them. Ideally a good dose is around the 120mg mark and a 40mg boost later but it just depends on so many different things.

When did Swiy last consume MDMA or ecstasy?

[Routemaster Flash]

Is SWIY used to MDMA powder or ecstasy pills? A good strong pill in Europe or the UK contains around 100mg, maybe up to 125mg of MDMA - I think they're generally a bit weaker Stateside, like 75-100 or so. So 170mg would be equivalent to 1.5 to 2 'good' pills, depending on what SWIY's used to.

[Will21st]

the ideal dose is 1 and a half mg per kg bodyweight,i believe...

[valantini]

swim last took e 2 weeks ago.
he does have a high tolerence to mdma and copes fine with 150mg so hes thinkin of 200mg in a capsule and has another 100mg capsule for later as a top p.

he has been supplimenting with 5-htp & vitaminE in the mean-time which he finds makes him rol much nicer )

[Panthers007]

Measuring doses by body weight is inaccurate to say the least. Psychotropics cause the desired effects once they cross the blood-brain barrier. Hence one should factor in body weight (mg/kg) as a small part of the equation. But brain size is the real deciding factor. Does a 250kb guy have a huge head? Doubtful. A little larger than "normal?" Possibly.

A moron of a researcher did not take this into consideration when he gave an Elephant a dose of LSD25 of around 100mg (milligrams!). An Elephant's brain is much smaller than a humans' brain. And the poor thing fell over dead. Unfortunately not on top of the genius who calculated the dose.

So please don't let SWIM give SWIMself an overdose based on a misunderstanding.

[Nargyle]

Interesting, swim had always wondered why the same amount of lsd would put swim and his gf in almost the same level, swim weighs 95kg while his girlfriend only weighs 50kg. Now he gets it!

Originally Posted by Panthers007

Measuring doses by body weight is inaccurate to say the least. Psychotropics cause the desired effects once they cross the blood-brain barrier. Hence one should factor in body weight (mg/kg) as a small part of the equation. But brain size is the real deciding factor. Does a 250kb guy have a huge head? Doubtful. A little larger than "normal?" Possibly.

A moron of a researcher did not take this into consideration when he gave an Elephant a dose of LSD25 of around 100mg (milligrams!). An Elephant's brain is much smaller than a humans' brain. And the poor thing fell over dead. Unfortunately not on top of the genius who calculated the dose.

So please don't let SWIM give SWIMself an overdose based on a misunderstanding.

[valantini]

LD50 in humans is 10mg per 1kg of body weight

if swim weighs 87kg then he needs 870mg to overdose or 8 decent pills in one go...

[jduba]

Swim has found that it depends on desired effect and tolerance of substance not just body weight. as well as the amount of substance in your stomach and other drugs consumed, SWIM likes 1/4 g of pure MDMA on an empty after 6 years of rolling weekly and then 5 years of non use this puts swim in a great place being 230lbs and with the use experience

[valantini]

swim likes the sound of quarter of a gram cos swim likes to roll hard too...:=)

[Panthers007]

Originally Posted by valantini

LD50 in humans is 10mg per 1kg of body weight

if swim weighs 87kg then he needs 870mg to overdose or 8 decent pills in one go...

WRONG! Very wrong!

MDMA has a narrow range for being a nice roll. And at a certain level, one manifests toxic effects. Such as anxiety, confusion, stupor, and others. For about 10% of users, this dose is 200mg. For others, less and more. Gauging a dosage on the LD50 (where did you get that? It's BS) is an invitation to disaster. For a great many things, taking a dose that is a fraction of Compound ZY may not kill you. But just because you are still breathing does not mean that your arms & legs haven't dropped off and you have the IQ of a house plant!

Please read/UTFSE for full information on proper dosage ranges before SWIM winds up befriending his mum's begonias.

[valantini]

yea i was wrong cos i just find out from a reliable source that the LD50 of mdmx is 80mg per 1kg body weight !!
also the risk of death from overheating or water intoxication can occur with only 1 pill....
obviously it is more toxic at higher doses but i also found out that re-dosong again on the same roll is even more dangerous.

valantini added 12 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

one also adds that swim has indeed felt this toxic effect at high doses and agrees-he felt all the symtoms you state with 200mg+ does- BUT he now knows that this feeling is unpleasant, nothing else...

it only lasts for aslong as you let it take control. best thing he found was to put the bad feelings to the back of his mind and then he was enjoying the roll again )

[jaystorm26]

alrite everyone? im new to all this ,i searched 4 information about mdma and came across this site.,firstly im interested in reading about the drugs i take and secondly i wanted 2 see if a site like this,could give me sum answers and explain sum of the mad symptoms i get when doin lots of mdma. speed and weed. on reading about peoples experiences on here ive noticed lots of people talk about doin a half gram of crystals or maybe a whole gram spread over the whole night/morning.this seems 2 be the maximum dose. ive been doin pills/speed and smokin weed 4 about 8 years and 4 the last 5 years or so pretty constant, mainly weekends and smoked weed everyday. ive been doin mdma crystals most weekends 4 the last 3 years.like everyone half a gram was plenty 2 start with and it was amazin.
sum people i tell think im talking shit but now i bomb a whole gram in 1 go and then dab another gram over the next 5/6hours and i hardly come up. so basically i do 2 grams and drink quite a few guinesses.i no longer dance when on it or feel invincable sumtimes people dont even realise im on it even my eyes arnt proper massive these days. i get the crystals off 3 different people so its not shit gear and ive weighed the bags their always 0.9g,unless all the dealers/chemists have found some way of cuttin it. i dont think this is true coz i gave my mate a few dabs and he was off his head and hes a seasoned raver. im layin off all gear untill ive got my head together .i still get a nice buzz off speed so i gather im just very immune 2 mdma. ive also learnt on here that my mad dreams where im temperory paralized and im positive a demon is tryin 2 pull me back in the room,is all down 2 doin lots of mdma.does any1 relate 2 what im sayin.if i layed off 4 a good 6 months or so do u think i can ever feel that amzin feeliin again. thank sorry its so long!

[grandbaby]

Also, an LD50 is the dose at which 50% (that's HALF, kids!) of the test subjects die. Those aren't gambling odds.

[MindNRA]

Jaystorm, seriously? Screwed up dreams will be the least of your problems man.

First if you do it every week at such high dozes, your serotonin will never recuperate fast enough until you roll next on a weekly basis. Eventually your serotonin levels become so low that there is no point taking MDMA, it can't do anything for you because your brain to longer has the chemicals needed for a roll.

Here is my advice, forget about Ecstasy for 6 months to a year. Will magic come back after that? Probably not but you will gain some of the roll back. And also go to a pharmacy and find 5-HTP supplement, start taking it daily. It will help recoup your serotonin levels.

[jaystorm26]

ok thanks a lot mate. yer i planned at least a 6 month break from it anyway .supprisingly enough i havnt got severe depression (at this point and time) just mild depression up until around wednsday/thurs which is normal . i pretty much stopped smokin weed last year. goin from up to a oz and a half a week 2 now maybe a 10 bag a month (which is obviously fuck ) and i feel so much better . i think smokin strong weed everday is far worse than doin stimulants at the weekends but everones different and 4 me personally i supposes time will tell. thanks 4 the advice