Combinations - 5mg methadone + .5mg zanax

[Nahbus]

Hello. Swim has been on heroin for a while (on and off for a year maybe) so his opiate tolerance is decently high.
Today is his first day off and he took .5mg zanax then a 5mg methadone.
THEN he reads how lethal of a combo it is, but he only took 5mg methadone to which he has a tolerance
No benzo tolerance
I guess he just over worries and would like some reassurance, haha, thanks!

[drug-bot]

yeah it can be lethal, but every body is different.

swims on 90mg of methadone daily and once or twice a week takes 5-6mg of klonopins at once and just gets sedated and a very beutiful drunk like feeling as well as the most pleasant care free feeling in the world. last weekend he took 24 mg of klonopins (stupid and extremly high potential for danger) over the course of a single day as well as his regular dose of methadone and all it did was make him pass in and out of consciousness (kinda like nodding) then he fell asleep for like 15hrs, and the next day he took his dose and 8mg of klonopins (note- k-pins have a half life of 18-50 hours so he was actually under the influence of 32 mg) all he did was nod and felt relaxed for a for a really short time and fell asleep (note- he could have died from said doses).

klonopins and xanax are approximatly equal in potency (google a benzodiazipine comparison chart), the only thing is their half lifes are drastically different w/ klonpins lasting much longer.

about 20% or so (estimating) of the people at his methadone clinic use benzos as well, hell he got all his benzo connects from people at the clinic, some folks actually openly sell them in the parking lot. the clinic allows patients to be on methadone and benzos w/ a valid script, though the majority of methadone patients on benzos dont.

i guess swim has a naturally high tolerance for mixing downers, but he could have died easily (no joke)

swim is in honestly no way encouraging you or saying such a combo is safe, because it can be lethal, he's just pointing out how different bodies react differently. even though 5mg of methadone and .5 xanax are really small amounts of each so swiy shouldnt be too concerned(some doctors will prescribe an opiate and bezo simultaniously) , but every body is different (swim knows he's starting to sound like a broken record).

use your personal judgement armed w/ as much info you have and can gather.

the use of bold words isnt intented as yelling but rather emphasis

-peace and be safe and happy

[fiveleggedrat]

Even with little to no tolerance, the dosages mentioned are safe, and well within those that a doctor would prescribe. 50mg and 5mg, now then I'd be worried

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true about the dosages involved

[Nahbus]

Right, thanks guys. SWIM is just always overly cautious (which is a good thing) but this time he figured it was no big deal with doses that small. He is well and fine now, very tired, but WD feelings are coming back so he MAY take another 5mg methadone, then MAYBE another .5 xanax (might skip the benzo, but I'm sure by the end of the night he will take it)
I think he should prolly take it sooner rather than later so he's not worried about breathing during his sleep haha
But yeah, the teeny tiny doses turned out to be a great feeling for swim and he had no WD feelings for most of the day (until now)
At least xanax halflife is so short, he doesn't have to worry too much about taking another soon (unlike klons)

Abyway thanks guys! This helped swim

[Nahbus]

SWIM has done this teeny combo a couple times (5mg methadone and .5mg xanax in the morning, and when he gets home from work) - it really helps.
But SWIM may be presented the opportunity to do heroin about 4-5 hours after that small combo, would snorting a small amount of heroin on a previously taken dose of 5mg methadone and .5mg xanax be outrageously dangerous?
SWIM feels like he knows his body, he says that small mdone/xanax combo doesn't make him noddy or real messed up or anything, just smooths out some rough edges for him, so he knows he's not pushing any sort of limit with that combo already, but he just wants to play it safe with the addition of small amounts of heroin.
If he takes it very easy with the dope, and doesn't re-dose his methadone or xanax, would this be a huge deal?
(I know it sure itsn't ADVISED, but again, I guess SWIM is just putting it out there)
Thanks fellow swimmers, just looking after my imaginary friend SWIM.

[fiveleggedrat]

Methadone might interfere with the H high. Not sure about binding between the two. I remember reading methadone can block some opioids a la Buprenorphine style. Not positive here.

A small amount should not be a problem as long as Swim is responsible and safe. Of course, snort slowly and not a lot at once. Swim would personally give it a shot.

IMHO, it's not mixing opioids that is dangerous, but mixing different classes of downers that is. It'd be safer without the xanax, but whatever, .5mg is a small fucking dose. Swim does not recommend for the average person to, but Swim mixes opioids all the time, since he usually can't get enough of one type to get high enough.

[Nahbus]

yeah, SWIM actually couldn't find any dope last night anyway, everyone bailed out, which was actually a good thing.
Today he woke up with the first glimmer of hope for his withdrawals being gone.
He hasn't even taken any methadone yet, just some xanax. Now he's making coffee, and feels really good without heroin for the first time in probably close to a year.
yay

[drug-bot]

Originally Posted by Nahbus

SWIM has done this teeny combo a couple times (5mg methadone and .5mg xanax in the morning, and when he gets home from work) - it really helps.
But SWIM may be presented the opportunity to do heroin about 4-5 hours after that small combo, would snorting a small amount of heroin on a previously taken dose of 5mg methadone and .5mg xanax be outrageously dangerous?
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heroin will definetly overcome the misely amount of methadone in swis blood (hell swim could still get high on h when the clinic had him onl on 30mg of methadone), so the that wouldnt be the problem. but h varies so much in potence has it is swim would suggest doing it substance free (and remember methadone has a half life of about 24hrs, - peace and be safe.

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

Methadone might interfere with the H high. Not sure about binding between the two. I remember reading methadone can block some opioids a la Buprenorphine style. Not positive here.

no, not exactyl man. methadone is a full mu agonist so one can always add h (also full agonist) to it and get the h feeling, it just the question of how much heroin one has to use to achieve the rush. in swims personal experience he could get high with an average amount of dope up to about 50mg of methadone, after that amount of methadne one would need considerably larger amounts of dope, and like now that swims on 90mg he could still get high on h but doesnt because he'd have to use an extraordinary amount of dope to get high (and there for money) that he cant afford, doubled w/ the desire not to use cause the methadone fills your opiate receptors.

bupenorphine (suboxone, subutex) doesnt work this way cause it cant, its a partial antagonist.

[fiveleggedrat]

It's also a partial antagonist.