Drug info - Usa=no otc!!!

[BigFatCox]

Hey guys, new poster.
I'm from the USA, and I have chronic shoulder and knee pain from MMA related injuries. I cant get perscribed codein for it (at least from the doctor I see) because he just doesnnt think it's serious enough. I am very familiar with it and know how to take it safely and use it with discipline. It just helps so much (plus it feels GREAT).
I've actually was smoking cannibus because of it, but I hate how i always eat alot and sleep for 12+ hours lol.
Anyways, I'm NOT trying to break any rules on here but does anybody have any experience with ordering it online? I've found a legitimate looking website and emailed them, still waiting on a response. They claim that US FDA allows up to 3 months supply of medication imports from foreign countrys without a prescription. I'm just not sure though. Anybody from USA or even the UK ever had experience with this?
If not, are there any other legitimate ways I could get it? Maybe by talking to a different doctor? I'm just not sure and I'd love to get my hands on some. I usually would take like 25 mg/day for it. Doesnt make me nausiated or anything because I'm 205 lbs.

ANY help would be appreciated alot. I envy you guys in the UK. OTC must rule!!!

[bloot]

It is a violation of the rules to be incriminating yourself. Use SomeoneWhoIsn'tMe ( SWIM ) or something similar when talking of experiences. Also, SWIY is very lucky for being able to feel good from 25mg of codeine haha.

[Panthers007]

Purchasing/importing codeine off the web - without a valid prescription from a doctor who has seen you - is a felony. No one here will help you commit a felony.

The importation of a 90 day supply applies to non-controlled drugs. Codeine is Schedule II - Schedule III if compounded with acetaminophen, aspirin, etc.

[drguildo]

Tell your doctor that the pain is still bothering you and what he's currently doing/recommending isn't doing the trick. If he keeps ignoring you then he's a shit doctor and you should find one that actually listens to their patients.

[fiveleggedrat]

Originally Posted by drguildo

Tell your doctor that the pain is still bothering you and what he's currently doing/recommending isn't doing the trick. If he keeps ignoring you then he's a shit doctor and you should find one that actually listens to their patients.

This is just about every doctor in the US; they are all terrified of prescribing opioids to anyone but those already with one foot in the grave.

[nutellajunkie]

its not just the UK, its most of EU that has decent OTC that SWIM can use to their standards.

You just incriminated yourself, I hope your GP isnt reading this.

[fnord]

I heard that pharmacy's have it behind the counter in syrup forum and will sell it to you as a cough suppressant depending on the pharmacist/your appearance. is this true for the us?

[nutellajunkie]

that does sound like something youd find in the US..

Cute people get suppressed... for sure..

*cough* see now I need it..

[purplehaze]

Originally Posted by fnord

I heard that pharmacy's have it behind the counter in syrup forum and will sell it to you as a cough suppressant depending on the pharmacist/your appearance. is this true for the us?

That's absolutely false, unless you mean't to say is this true for the UK since your grandma is from the U.S.

A pharmacist will not sell any prescription med to a customer unless they have a prescription, violating that could cause them to lose there job, which they slaved and competed for.

[fnord]

Originally Posted by purplehaze

That's absolutely false, unless you mean't to say is this true for the UK since your grandma is from the U.S.

A pharmacist will not sell any prescription med to a customer unless they have a prescription, violating that could cause them to lose there job, which they slaved and competed for.

Phaze its generally a good idea to research something before calling it untrue,unless your 100% sure of your facts.

In certain jurisdictions, codeine is available over-the-counter in combination with guafinesian or promethazine to be sold at the pharmacist's discretion, though many pharmacists decline to do so.

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http://www.my3cents.com/showReview.cgi?id=4263

My local CVS refuses to stock and sell over-the-counter codeine cough syrup. US and Virginia regulations permit the sale of a codeine-based] formulation, but CVS won't sell it - apparently because they don't want to be bothered with the regulatory paperwork. If they have a license to dispense , I believe they have a ethical obligation to provide their customers with legally available medications.

With the codeine available in the US OTC, release forms may have to be signed, including your name and address, in order to keep track of how much codeine you are buying.

http://opioids.com/codeine/codeinefaq.html

Canada has OTC codeine products available if product has no more than 8 mg of codeine per unit dose. Some US areas may have codeine preps available OTC, but usually require release form.

http://www.druglibrary.org/gh/codeine.htm


I have yet to ever see anyone attempt to purchase OTC codeine products in the us, im only going on information ive been given/told by old school junkys and the internet.

Grandma says: I currently suffer from a very annoying cough(not joking at all) i might go try later today but i doubt i will have the motivation. it seems like my general apearence would put most pharmicits off from selling me such things and i dont feel like walking to 10 different pharmacys to find out/temporarly relive my cough.
But just maybe..

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Wow I'm impressed. Nice research. I never knew that.

[purplehaze]

I felt pretty confident on that answer without research but do apologize for not doing thorough research and providing links. I still do not believe that you can walk in a pharmacy in the U.S. and walk out with codiene promethazine(regardless of what the internet tells you), rappers have made it known people abuse it to get high and also going by this.

Codeine is Schedule II in the United States. This means it is illegal to sell without a DEA license and illegal to buy or possess without a license or prescription.

Products such as Tylenol II-IV, which contain less than 90 mg codeine per dosage unit, are Schedule III.

Plus we (u.s.) can't even get tylenol that has codiene in it without a prescription so why would we be able to get the good stuff.

The article at opiods.com was wrote in 1996

Title : Codeine FAQ
Author : mdh@debug.cuc.ab.ca
Update: Aurelius (Stuff in [] is mine.)
Newsgroup : alt.drugs
Last Revision : April 27, 1996




Sorry for the way i worded my arguement, nothing personal fnord, phaze just has a really bad hangover.

related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank

In the United States, codeine is regulated by the Controlled Substances Act. It is a Schedule II controlled substance for pain-relief products containing codeine alone or more than 90 mg per dosage unit. In combination with aspirin or acetaminophen (paracetamol/Tylenol) it is listed as Schedule III or V, depending on formula. Preparations for cough or diarrhea containing small amounts of codeine in combination with two or more other active ingredients are Schedule V in the US, and in some states may be dispensed in amounts up to 4 fl. oz. per 48 hours without a prescription. Schedule V specifically consigns the product to state and local regulation beyond certain required record-keeping requirements (a dispensary log must be maintained for two years in a ledger from which pages cannot easily be removed and/or are pre-numbered and the pharmacist must ask for a picture ID such as a driving licence) and also which maintain controlled substances in the closed system at the root of the régime intended by the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 -- e.g. the codeine in these products was a Schedule II substance when the company making the Schedule V product acquired it for mixing up the end product. In locales where dilute codeine preparations are non-prescription, anywhere from very few to perhaps a moderate percentage of pharmacists will sell these preparations without a prescription. However, many states have their own laws that do require a prescription for Schedule V drugs. Other drugs which are present in Schedule V narcotic preparations like the codeine syrups are ethylmorphine and dihydrocodeine. Paregoric and hydrocodone were transferred to Schedule III from Schedule V even if the preparation contains two or more other active ingredients, and diphenoxylate is usually covered by state prescription laws even though this relative of pethidine is a Schedule V substance when adulterated with atropine to prevent abuse.

Codeine is also available outside the United States as an over-the-counter drug in liquid cough-relief formulations. Internationally, codeine is a Schedule II drug under the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codeine

With a hell of a lot of luck you may get one dose to take infront of the pharmacist or 4fl oz, which is still questionable. Phaze has been prescribed promethazine codiene before in a big bottle, recent years when he had a cough and went to the doctor he was given one dose at the doctor of codiene promethazine and then wrote some shitty magic mouthwash BS as a prescription. One thing is sure, in my state (alabama) codiene is very hard to come by and the doctors are more willing to write anything else, alot of his friends have also gotten bs scrips containing low mg of hydrocodone combined with pseudophedrine(& other garbage), though to note his grandparents have no problem getting codiene or tussionex from there doctor.


Best bet would be to go to the doctor IMO, that is If that is an option. Either way man, hope you get to feeling better and have some luck.

[G_nome]

Ahh it's good to be in the UK, for once.

[dreamstodiffer]

swim got nurofen plus delivered from ebay, however swim can't find any in the suppliers ebay store any more. Swim just tried another online store, swim will wait and see, another site swim saw asked a bunch of questions about swims condition. As for the dea and importing swim heard that under 12.5 mg codeine in an otc product falls under the 3 month supply at a time rule. Swim could be wrong, just what swim could dig up when she was looking for codeine

[fiveleggedrat]

It does not fall under the 3 month supply rule, since it is scheduled.

Only PRESCRIPTION, not scheduled products, apply to the 3 month rule, unless Swiy has a preexisting prescription possibly.

And from eBay? I know that is, for a fact, illegal. I can't believe ebay did not figure any of that out and come down on the seller. Amazing. Ebay is usually on top of shit; Swim knows from being a seller for years.

[dreamstodiffer]

yes ebay, and thats prolly why the auction is gone, thanks for the info. swim thinks its dumb that nurofen plus is scheduled. of course swim believes all drugs should be legal and it should be left up to the user and supplier to decide and be personally responsible.

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Thanks for sharing.