Purity - Testing cocaine quality on spoon??

[qwerty22]

Hello..swim reading the thread`making crack with bicarb soda method`,and using the spoon method to test quality of the coke..Now wondered if you could help me.
Swim has heard people say that they are doin this method to test they coke to see how good it is and it came back at 40% pure??now swim wanted to know how this method works,ie how they work out the % of the coke..swim assumes you weigh before you cook and then weigh after and work out from there??is swim right??if you could shed some light and how you do it swim would be extremely grateful....thanks in advance.

swim had also used the search function and up2 now cannoit find the answer he`s looking for that why swim posted this

[fiveleggedrat]

If you weight before and after cooking, Swiy can see the purity.

Pure product cooks back to around 80%. That means, 1gram of 90+% pure coke will come back around 800mg crack.

This is from the Ammonia method, though, which I HIGHLY suggest over sodium bicarb. Easier, and better yields. Most cuts also cannot cook into product cooked in pure ammonia.

[qwerty22]

Thanks for the reply....Swim had read lots of threads baout the ammonia method..when doing this on a spoon is it the same principal??A quick how to would be great...thanks

[fiveleggedrat]

Spoon method is ONLY for baking soda; imagine ammonia cooking in a metal spoon and splattering red hot in Swiy's face; not to mention the burns to the skin, but the nasal/eye damage, jeeze.

Ammonia + glass baby food jar +coke + microwave in 30 second intervals, max. No water. Clean, non-sudsy, clear ammonia. Cocaine should melt and turn into yellow bubbles. Cooling, it hardens, sinks, and becomes rock.

[qwerty22]

ok thanks for that...

[skipatrol]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

Ammonia + glass baby food jar +coke + microwave in 30 second intervals, max. No water. Clean, non-sudsy, clear ammonia. Cocaine should melt and turn into yellow bubbles. Cooling, it hardens, sinks, and becomes rock.

What are the exact amounts of coke and ammonia used for this? Can you give more details?

[fiveleggedrat]

or similar, can be bigger. + enough to fill the jar. Don't add water. Coke, any amount can be used. Enough ammonia to dissolve the coke completely and swirl it around freely. Swim would just fill the jar about 1/2 with ammonia (he used a glass salt shaker that was like a baby food jar only really tall), dump whatever coke in (obviously, don't try to cook ounces like this, need bigger jars), and microwave the shit in 15-30 second intervals. DO NOT PUT YOUR FACE OVER THE JAR! AMMONIA VAPOR IS DANGEROUS.

So, then just stir the shit after nuking it with a glass or metal stirring rod. Expect some to bond with the rod, that's ok. You can get it off later. Stir the product until well dissolved, and yellow oil like bubbles should form at the top of the ammonia. Cut sinks usually. If no yellow, oily bubbles, then it's not coke or fake stuff. When the oil cools, it hardens and becomes crack.

If yall need more info than that, feel free to ask. I've never explained Swim's methods before, but they are tested and proven, and VERY effective if done the right way.

[skipatrol]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

So, then just stir the shit after nuking it with a glass or metal stirring rod.

Stir after each interval?

The result is not technically crack but freebase, correct?

Is this an exact method for determining sample purity? Will only cocaine (and not excess alkaloids) "rock up"? Lidocaine, etc?

[fiveleggedrat]

Yeah, after each interval until it's all oil bubbles. Then, start stirring and cooling. Swim always cools by air, takes max, a few minutes. Heard some people stick it in the freezer to speed it up.

Nah, it's crack. Crack IS freebase, but what people refer to "freebase" is the shit that was around before crack, takes an extra step.

To recover the freebase in the "traditional" manner, diethyl ether is added to the solution. Since freebase is highly soluble in ether, a vigorous shaking of the mixture results in the freebase being dissolved in the ether. As ether is practically insoluble in water, it can be siphoned off. The ether is then left to evaporate, leaving behind the nearly pure freebase.

At least this is all to the best of my knowledge.

Lidocaine's not an alkaloid, it's an anesthetic with, I believe, synthetic origins. None of the 'caines are active in the way Cocaine is. Except fancy RC's and other assorted synthetics ala 4Flourotropococaine.

In Swim's experience, shit cooked with ammonia was straight pure. All cuts would sink, and that's great, since some fucking cuts can't be Acetone extracted.

[kenbo]

So if SWIM was to use SWIY's method above to turn the coke into crack - is this a way of judging the purity of the original cocaine? Excuse SWIM's lack of experience as I'm only just learning the link between cocaine and crack. Also once done I'm sure I seen a method somewhere to then turn it back to cocaine HCL - would this then give you a much cleaner end cocaine product for snorting?

[fiveleggedrat]

It can be a way to judge purity. This method prevents most (if not all) cuts from forming into the final product (the crack) so only pure cocaine hcl is converted into cocaine freebase. Pure/exceptional product yields are about 80%. Don't know for junk, have not cooked a lot of product.

Besides purity, there is the acetone wash to purify cocaine which Swim highly recommends. Easy to do and effective for most cuts.

Yes, you can convert crack back into cocaine, but a simple acetone wash works better for cleaning product up.

[kenbo]

The reason SWIM asked is because SWIM has an imaginery old friend who's life turned upside down for him after the passing of his dad and he became enveloped in the world of drugs as an escape. He was trying heroin, crack etc which at the time in SWIM's limited perception were all tied in with dirty low life types. Now SWIM's imaginary friend has been trying to find his way back off using the substances so frequently and has packed in the brown and told SWIM he's stopped making crack from the cocaine he buys. Now on the other side of the fence SWIM has another imaginary friend, businessman with plenty expendable income and he buys 1/2 oz of cocaine at the weekend. SWIM had a little try and got nothing off it at all!! It numbed very quickly and brought on a bit of a panic attack which SWIM suffers from especially if involving caffeine. SWIM was thinking that poss his old imaginary friend was getting far better stuff than the imaginary businessman friend cause he could rock it up. SWIM doing a bit of reading on here and realising it's different strokes for different folks not a certain drug means a certain type of person or lifestyle.

[qwerty22]

The original purpose of this thread was to determine if ppl use the spoon/bicarb method to judge and see the purity of the coke byu obvisously weighing before and after...as swim has heard a lot of ppl say they use this to see if the coke is any good to turn back into crack....swim just wants to hear from ppl who have used this metod and wether it has been usefull in determining coke purity....

[kenbo]

SWIM apologises for going off topic.

[qwerty22]

Originally Posted by kenbo

SWIM apologises for going off topic.

no problems......not having a go just saying!!!