Snorting - Can you snort cannabis?

[NotImportant]

Can you snort weed, and get high?

[porchy]

Nope. THC isn't water soluble, and will not absorb into your mucus glands. Wouldn't be advisable anyway..

[NotImportant]

How about under the lip? Where my friend is from, who is wondering about this, there is like tobacco that you put under you lip. Will you get any high feelings if you mix the tobacco with weed?

[porchy]

Um, you would either want to eat the weed with some sort of oil, like butter or chips or something fried..(SWIY gets the idea) or smoke it. Eating is the most efficient.

[doggy_hat]

It was just explained that THC is not water soluble. So no, it cannot be placed under the lip and get SWIY high.

[NotImportant]

Okay, SWIM understands.

[purplehaze]

More importantly than it not working is it would be the same concept as packing a bowl except packing your nose. Nothing is gonna happen to the weed unless you grind it up alot and suck it through your nose into your mouth with snot, which is nasty just explaining.

This method is more inefficient than snorting xanax. But now that you've got it, we'll leave it at that.

[Freedom of Mind]

What if SWIM were to put marijuana in alcohol, heated it nicely, and left it in there long enough for the alcohol to activate the THC, then filter out the plant material. If you then let all the alcohol evaporate, would snorting the thc left produce any effects? Since its already active from being heated in the alcohol would it be able to absorb properly through the nose?

If you cook some marijuana with butter, once you've cooked it properly, would how much butter you have in your stomach matter? I've never heard of that making much difference, but if its not required once activated, then I would think snorting it after doing an alcohol extraction then it would work.

Even if its not as effective as smoking, if it does work, it may be worth doing just for experimentation.

[purplehaze]

Originally Posted by Freedom of Mind

What if SWIM were to put marijuana in alcohol, heated it nicely, and left it in there long enough for the alcohol to activate the THC, then filter out the plant material. If you then let all the alcohol evaporate, would snorting the thc left produce any effects? Since its already active from being heated in the alcohol would it be able to absorb properly through the nose?

If you cook some marijuana with butter, once you've cooked it properly, would how much butter you have in your stomach matter? I've never heard of that making much difference, but if its not required once activated, then I would think snorting it after doing an alcohol extraction then it would work.

Even if its not as effective as smoking, if it does work, it may be worth doing just for experimentation.

OK first of all this thread is going downhill, first you have to understand whats going on when you ingest weed and it works. Weed, nor its active cannabinoids those are the names of the active ingredients in whole, like thc cbd cbg etc. None of those are water soluble. So that means they will not dissolve into water. Most things that dissolve into water are salts, most drugs are salts or alot of them anyway like cocaine, meth etc. these things dissolve into water. Just like sugar. Well thc and active friends are oils. They do not dissolve in water. xanax is not very water soluable. Alot of things arent.

Well since they aren't water soluable how will your body break them down? They first have to be extracted into fat, or alcohol these are things that cause them to dissolve into them. You can get the same effect by eating cannabis and drinking alot of alcohol while its still in your tummy. Or eating alot of fatty foods so the oils will extract into fat inside your stomache.

There is no such thing as activating. THC doesn't need activated to cause effects, it just needs a way into your body. The things listed are known ways of adminstration/extraction. Cannabis plants have a high concentration of thc visible like white widow. Thc is present on the plant and doesn't magically appear when smoked. Although it is converted that is irrelevant, it is still very much present. Butter is used because of its fat content.

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[Euthanatos93420]

Furthermore, there is minimal Delta-9 THC in Marijuana until it is exposed to heat (200 degrees Fahrenheit) so one would not receive significant psychoactive products even if they could be ingested/lipped/snorted. This is why people cook with cannibus.

[Freedom of Mind]

Originally Posted by euthanatos93420

Furthermore, there is minimal Delta-9 THC in Marijuana until it is exposed to heat (200 degrees Fahrenheit) so one would not receive significant psychoactive products even if they could be ingested/lipped/snorted. This is why people cook with cannibus.

But what if you cook it before snorting it, kind of like how you need to cook it before eating it for it to work? If you heat it in alcohol you both activate it by cooking it and can reduce the amount to be snorted by filtering the plant matter.

If you do an alcohol extraction you could also toss something like an amphetamine in to dissolve as well, then when you evaporate the liquid you'd have a hybrid snuff of amphetamine which snorts well along with the extracted marijuana alkaloids, which might make for a fun combo to try if the THC would absorb.

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Originally Posted by purplehaze

OK first of all this thread is going downhill, first you have to understand whats going on when you ingest weed and it works. Weed, nor its active cannabinoids those are the names of the active ingredients in whole, like thc cbd cbg etc. None of those are water soluble. So that means they will not dissolve into water. Most things that dissolve into water are salts, most drugs are salts or alot of them anyway like cocaine, meth etc. these things dissolve into water. Just like sugar. Well thc and active friends are oils. They do not dissolve in water. xanax is not very water soluable. Alot of things arent.

Well since they aren't water soluable how will your body break them down? They first have to be extracted into fat, or alcohol these are things that cause them to dissolve into them. You can get the same effect by eating cannabis and drinking alot of alcohol while its still in your tummy. Or eating alot of fatty foods so the oils will extract into fat inside your stomache.

There is no such thing as activating. THC doesn't need activated to cause effects, it just needs a way into your body. The things listed are known ways of adminstration/extraction. Cannabis plants have a high concentration of thc visible like white widow. Thc is present on the plant and doesn't magically appear when smoked. Although it is converted that is irrelevant, it is still very much present. Butter is used because of its fat content.

You do need to cook it so there is some activating that you need to do before ingesting. Also as far as I know cooking it with something like water, then ingesting it after eating a bunch of butter wouldn't work all that well, as it matters what you cook it with as well for it to be active.

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[purplehaze]

Originally Posted by Freedom of Mind

You do need to cook it so there is some activating that you need to do before ingesting.

Cannabis yogurt, icecream, milk. ding ding ding, fat.

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by Freedom of Mind

You do need to cook it so there is some activating that you need to do before ingesting. Also as far as I know cooking it with something like water, then ingesting it after eating a bunch of butter wouldn't work all that well, as it matters what you cook it with as well for it to be active.

Perhaps the wise-words of pHaze havent quite sunk in. Cannabinoids do not need to be "activated" by heat for ingestion. As pHaze said, cannabinoids simply need a way into the body, meaning they need membrane solubility. This comes from increased lipid-solubility, which can be acquired if the cannabinoids are mixed with an oil. For instance placing cannabis in a bottle of olive oil and allowing to sit for some time will result in cannabinoid-infused olive-oil. Heat simply speeds up the reaction, as it does to most any reaction. If you still dont understand this, there are several threads about it, use the search engine.

[Psssst]

the latest method of injestion in the medical community is
crock potting bud in olive oil/water mix 2:1 for 6-10 hrs.straining into a tall container and putting in fridge.
Seperate the oil out and mix 50/50 with Alovera gel and putting in gelatin caps for injestion
this mix can also be used as a topical

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[Freedom of Mind]

Using Anadenanthera peregrina to make Yopo you mix a base with it, such as Calcium carbonate to make it absorb, so I figure something similar could be done with THC, such as leaving a small amount of moister in them from the alcohol, or use some other solvent.

[Psssst]

maybe an alcoholic THC extraction mixed with DMSO

could make a couch veggy out of ya in a hurry

SWIM snorted a big ol rail of male pollen years back
only did it once though

[Freedom of Mind]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

Perhaps the wise-words of pHaze havent quite sunk in. Cannabinoids do not need to be "activated" by heat for ingestion. As pHaze said, cannabinoids simply need a way into the body, meaning they need membrane solubility. This comes from increased lipid-solubility, which can be acquired if the cannabinoids are mixed with an oil. For instance placing cannabis in a bottle of olive oil and allowing to sit for some time will result in cannabinoid-infused olive-oil. Heat simply speeds up the reaction, as it does to most any reaction. If you still dont understand this, there are several threads about it, use the search engine.

It takes a very long time for the cannabinoids to be active for ingestion if you don't give it some heat, but yes I know you can do that (SWIM has done alcohol+Cannabis without heat before, and while it worked somewhat, it wasn't very effective), but I was talking about doing it faster. Just interchange cooking it with "some process to make it orally active" and my comment still stands stands. Maybe I should of been more clear on that.

In the context of this thread when I say activating I say it reference to getting into a form so it will absorb in the intended way.

If you take some raw weed not mixed with anything it won't be active when you eat it, as the THC won't absorb (or barely will).
If you cook it with butter then it will be active when you eat it, as the THC will absorb.

That's the context I'm talking about when I say "activating". Anyways back to the topic at hand...

THC could also be converted into a salt, which might make it active when snorting. Upon looking around found some info on how to make it into a salt,

THC isnt a alkaloid but it does contain a hydroxyl on the aromatic ring, the phenolic proton could be removed using a strong base thus you can form a salt, apon isolation though the salt would likely take a proton from anywhere as its going to be a strong base.

anything protic can be a salt or an acid (there is no doubt an exception).

chlorophyll isnt soluble in hydrocarbons so your alcohol/acetone/whatever extract could be dissolved in a hydrocarbon such as hexane and filtered.

The THC salt would be formed by dissolving some THC in ethanol or other water miscable solvent and adding a base, that would remove the phenolic H thus making the phenoxide anion. if you add an acid you get your THC back.

The salt would very basic, but if you cut it with something it would maybe be snortable.

[dyingtomorrow]

Even if you could make a snortable form of THC, it's not like it is going to fuck you up more than smoking it. The reason people make crack out of cocaine is because smoking things gets you more fucked up.

THC is not the kind of drug that you can get a rush off of, like heroin or something, and there'd be no point to making a worse, snortable form of it. If someone wants to snort something, there are plenty of drugs that already exist that feel a lot better than THC to snort.

[Freedom of Mind]

Originally Posted by dyingtomorrow

Even if you could make a snortable form of THC, it's not like it is going to fuck you up more than smoking it. The reason people make crack out of cocaine is because smoking things gets you more fucked up.

THC is not the kind of drug that you can get a rush off of, like heroin or something, and there'd be no point to making a worse, snortable form of it. If someone wants to snort something, there are plenty of drugs that already exist that feel a lot better than THC to snort.

SWIM agrees even if possible it still wouldn't be the preferable way to do it, but after smoking it thousands of times, sometimes it can be interesting to try different things.

Anyways SWIM don't know if it would snortable, as I was just proposing a way that could of been possible. I don't know enough about how THC and alcohol molecules interact during the heating process to know if the THC would be snortable afterward.

However if I put marijuana in alcohol, heat it up to the proper temperature, and leave it sit long enough for the THC to be fully active for the most part. If I were to let the alcohol fully evaporating, would the marijuana then become completely inactive orally again?

[quili]

Swim can't answer above questions, but swim has another question/tangent/thought to add. Say someone is french inhaling (taking the smoke into their mouth, then blowing it out slowly while simultaneously sucking it all up their nose). Swim has wondered before, would sucking the smoke through your nose make you slightly more high because you are taking the smoke/THC through your nose and into your lungs rather than just to your lungs?

[purplehaze]

This thread is about snorting, and snorting isn't a suitable route of administration for cannabis.

To answer the question, most active cannabinoids are absorbed within 3-5 seconds of being in your lungs says most research. Though this is debatable in another thread, french inhaling will not give a greater effect, but in turn lose thc as the smoke gets stale and the oil falls from the smoke, best to get it in and hold it in till done.

[purplehaze]

Your missing the point, put weed in alcohol with no heat it will extract. Setting it in a cool dark place is because sunlight destroys thc. No need to heat, no need to heat with food. It all extracts into these things. Eating ground up weed with fat works, putting weed in alcohol extracts it, thc absorbs into lipids. Oil, fat, alcohol, etc. For extraction alcohol, fat is called extraction. butane is called extraction.

Direct answer to question, evaporating the alcohol will leave you with no medium and therefor only active cannabinoids so it can only be smoked. If eaten it has to have a medium, fat lipids, alcohol something to work. No activating just getting it in your system is all.

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[Cryptic Concoction]

It would seem to be an incredibly waste of time to undergo such a laborious procedure in order to snort THC, given that inhalation is a more efficient and faster method of absorption...

[Tom Cruise]

this thread just seems to have become a waste of time, you cannot snort THC and get high from it
IT IS NOT WATER SOLUBLE.

[RaverHippie]

There aren't any ways to make cannabis "orally active" there are only methods of extraction in solvents which can then be absorbed by the body.