Experiences - Darvocets...not that bad

[Promefazyne]

SWIM looked around this forum and sees that Darvocets have a bad reputation on this forum. Many other SWIMmers say they aren't euphoric enough and that you have to take too many to get some feeling.

Well SWIM tested out two 100mg Darvocets. Now SWIM has a bit of an opiate tolerance, he isn't an everyday user but he is definitely a user, and he got a surprisingly good experience. SWIM isn't sure what all these other people were using or if they just have extremely high standards but Darvocet in SWIM's opinion is a pretty good drug and SWIM definitely looks forward to trying more in the future.

[JarvyJarvison]

SWIM tried 400mg of propoxyphene on its own and found it to be absolutely worthless on its own. However, SWIM tells me that propoxyphene works well in combination with other opiates/opioids such as codiene and hydrocodone.

[Solinari]

It is worthless especially in the Darvocet form because the paracetamol in it makes getting any recreational effect from it almost impossible and separating the paracetamol is a waste of time. It's the weakest opioid i can think of.

[Promefazyne]

SWIM tried them again and didn't get anywhere near the first high. It was kind of weird. The only thing that he think that could of boosted the high was that he had a few Hydrocodone pills the day before but SWIM doesn't think that would carry over or anything.

Still they really aren't THAT bad. They're probably a little less euphoric then maybe a Vicodin. Just SWIM's opinion.

[tryptamaster]

anyone with xp wanna compare codiene and darvocet? swim jsut wants to know wat swiys prefer and y because swim has never tried darvocet but is expirnced with codine and finds it to be his weakest opiate so far.

[JarvyJarvison]

Originally Posted by tryptamaster

anyone with xp wanna compare codiene and darvocet? swim jsut wants to know wat swiys prefer and y because swim has never tried darvocet but is expirnced with codine and finds it to be his weakest opiate so far.

SWIM would take codiene over propoxyphene any day of the week.

[fiveleggedrat]

Codeine is stronger, IMO. Would prefer, especially since you can't CWE propoxyphene.

[Solinari]

I can't find anything that rates the strength of opioids nor can i find anything that compares the strength of dextropropoxyphene to morphine (which is the benchmark). That said, i can't think of a weaker opioid than dextropropoxyphene, never the less, apparently for people that can't metabolise codeine properly, dextropropoxyphene would be more effective for analgesic purposes.

As for recreational uses, i still think dextropropoxyphene is worthless and not worth the bother of trying to extract it from the paracetamol.

[tryptamaster]

wow if codiene is better than darvs blow. also, how wud swiys compare tramadol to codeine?

[fiveleggedrat]

With no tolerance (opiate naive/newb), Tramadol blew EVERYTHING Swim has ever had out of the water, including hydrocodone, oxycodone, heroin, methadone, hydromorphone, etc. That includes serious, strong nodding doses. Amazing shit, it was.

With tolerance, codeine. Tramadol only works on sensitive people.

fiveleggedrat added 77 Minutes and 16 Seconds later...

Swim has consumed 3 65mg Darvocet N, the stupid napsylate form. That's almost 2g of APAP, spaced out over 2 hours to be safe and smart. Swim plans on adding 2 more 65mg tabs.

Interesting, Swim has massive opioid tolerance, and has very, very, very minimal effects. Swim once took 3 of these with no tolerance, comparable to low dose methadone but shorter, or low dose tramadol, or codeine. Not good as any, of course. Swim can feel a very small buzz, but it's just barely above placebo. Definately getting effects though; pinned pupils, CNS sedation, tendency to stare at objects and lose focus, slightly itchy in the nose (first place Swim gets itchies), and that familiar "opiated" feeling you get in your face. All of these are mild, Swim is sure that others could not even pick up on these mild effects. Swim is used to having few effects.

Swim's getting stomachaches after adding another pill, filtered about half the APAP in out and tossed it out.

[Solinari]

If someone gets pinned pupils on 196mg of propoxyphene napsylate then they don't have massive opioid tolerance.

It's really not worth taking that much paracetamol to get a buzz off propoxyphene, stomach pains are a sign that too much paracetamol in a short space of time is being taken. There should be at least 6 hours in between a maximum dose of 1g of paracetamol.

[fiveleggedrat]

Not true.

Swim can fucking suffocate on opioids and still have ZERO effects (euphoria, mood boost, social feelings, etc, ALL the positives). Swim still gets "body" effects, like CNS depression, constipation/urinary retention, pupil action, etc.

Swim gets pinned pupils all the time but Swim has not felt euphoria, or actually "high" for about, oh, 8 months at least.

With 5 65mg tablets, Swim ended up getting no real effects but mild pupil action, and a funny body tingling sensation which helped Swim sleep. Some CNS sedation was noted. Gastrointestinal mobility was not affected. Stomach pains/feelings were noted as well, but that could just be from the 3grams of APAP Swim took over a few hours. Mild itching, but it could have been placebo/triggered experience.

Swim won't be playing with this stuff again. It's not worth the liver damage.

[Solinari]

Body effects are the definition and measurement of tolerance, the positive or recreational effects are incidental and border on being subjective. When someone doesn't get pinned on 195mg of something like methadone, then they have massive opioid tolerance. I'm just saying someone that claims to have massive opioid tolerance, trying to get high off of propoxyphene with paracetamol is pointless and dangerous.

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim knew it was rather pointless, but Swim lets curiosity get the better of him.

I don't know if you read Swiy's post generally, but Swim is some sort of anomaly, genetically speaking, and has issues with his opioid receptors. Swim no longer gets mental effects like euphoria, but things like sedation are still present. If Swiy would like to explain that, feel free to try. Swim has taken breaks for months, come back, and had the same issues. Swim is not addicted either, to anything. Swim also does nothing else but smoke pot really.

Swim used to get mind-blowing effects from opioids, like those average people describe. Now, effects are a shallow ghost of a joke. Dosages have gone up about 5-10x what they were as well, even though effects have gone way, way down. Swim pretty much assumes this is what it's like to be an addict, tolerance-wise: total bullshit.

[duhduhduhda]

absolute garbage
swim took 5 generic darvocets to ward of wd's and while it provided very very minor comfort from wd's the stomach pains from the paracetemol were pretty horrible would never take them again unless he was absolutely desperate
swim would rather take those codeine tylenols than the darvocets

[lorzapmail]

After 2 years from a bad car accident. Swim has been prescribed norco10/325 now up to #120 and also now #120 Soma. Along with back shots "morcaine" and cortizone 3 times a year. With a few bulged disked and some blood clots in Swims legs, surgery is not an option.Davorcets would not not phase Swim. My Doctor has offered breakthrough pain meds, but swim declined. The ladder of pain meds is not safe.