Drug info - Please help

[t104]

Hi everybody I need your help in something... Ive been taking suboxone for quite a while now and need your help to answer this question. Its about ten days until I see my doctor again and I lost the next ten days worth of my suboxone, today being the last day that i took it about 14 hours ago. I cannot get ahold of my doctor or anything and well im not gonna go withdrawl for the next week or so until i see him. If i were to use say 24 hours after last dose of suboxone i know I wont feel it, but does anybody know if it will at least take care of my withdrawls. I know there is a chance I could feel it but I just want to know if doing just a little bit of H will at least cure the withdrawls. I took an 8mg last dose so I know its still going to be partly in my system so im really not sure about whats going to happen. Please and thanks guys

[jon-q]

Firstly swiy must read the site rules before posting,especially the one about "SELF INCRIMINATION",It does not matter if your drug is legal or not so please click on FAQnRULES then read site rules..
Swim is only replying to swiys question due to genuine concerns for swiys safety!
Swim knows very little about this subject so hopefuly another reply will come before swiy needs to take the H.
Suboxone has a much higher affinity for the brains opoid receptors than Heroin,thus the blocking effect.If this question is genuine then swim would tell swiy to wait as long as possable before taking Heroin,this is due to the half life of buprenophine(20-70HRS) so to repeat wait until swiy is starting going into withdrawls before taking Heroin.
ALSO REMEMBER THAT SWIYS TOLERANCE TO HEROIN WILL HAVE DROPPED (SO A SMALLER DOSE OF HEROIN MUST BE TAKEN)
Finaly also remember that if swiy goes back to H for more than 1 day,swiy will have to again wait until you are in full withdrawls before re-starting the suboxone...
Personaly swim would try to obtain more suboxone if swiy has gone this far all ready "BUT WHO IS SWIM TO PREACH"
Please ignore any bad spelling swim as just woke up......Q

[Birkill]

Instead of using gear maybe swiy should get hold of some less heavy opiates like codeine to help reduce the wd effects, if u cant get it pure u can obtain it from otc products such as nurophen plus or co-codamol(boots £1.50 a pack) and do a cold water extraction.

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by Birkill

Instead of using gear maybe swiy should get hold of some less heavy opiates like codeine to help reduce the wd effects, if u cant get it pure u can obtain it from otc products such as nurophen plus or co-codamol(boots £1.50 a pack) and do a cold water extraction.

Note swiyt104's location~otc codeine unavailable in states..

[Junkhead23]

How come codeine isn't available in the states?

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by t104

Hi everybody I need your help in something... Ive been taking suboxone for quite a while now and need your help to answer this question. Its about ten days until I see my doctor again and I lost the next ten days worth of my suboxone, today being the last day that i took it about 14 hours ago. I cannot get ahold of my doctor or anything and well im not gonna go withdrawl for the next week or so until i see him. If i were to use say 24 hours after last dose of suboxone i know I wont feel it, but does anybody know if it will at least take care of my withdrawls. I know there is a chance I could feel it but I just want to know if doing just a little bit of H will at least cure the withdrawls. I took an 8mg last dose so I know its still going to be partly in my system so im really not sure about whats going to happen. Please and thanks guys

Yes, SWIY can wait until you start getting anxiety from the suboxone withdrawals and and shoot a bit of H. It will definitely cure SWIY's withdrawals entirely. You can actually shoot H on top of suboxone (best wait like 2 hours after your suboxone dose), but if you do, just make sure you wait like 24 hours until you take suboxone again. Shooting H any time before like 48 hours after your last dose won't have the standard "heroin high" effect, but it will cure all pain, anxiety and discomfort. Towards the end of the 48 hours you will feel H like normal.

Talk to your doc about this afterwards, and tell him you really didn't want to do the H but you just can't go through withdrawals again, and that it really bothered you having to do it. That you just want to keep straight and beat your addiction, and that it was disturbing to have to risk going to jail to keep healthy. Might be able to get some extras on top of your usual amount for such an emergency.

Originally Posted by Junkhead23

How come codeine isn't available in the states?

The same reason they throw people in jail for driving their ODing friend to the hospital. Or hide the existence of condoms from teenagers and tell them just not to have sex. The same reason they won't write someone with agonizing chronic pain that prevents them from sleeping a prescription for opiod pain killers, but will pump their kids full amphetamines on a dime. The same reason they suppress information about drinking water and other simple safety information, so more people die using ecstasy and they can keep up their propaganda that it is dangerous, even though it causes maybe 1/1,000,000th of the deaths per year that alcohol does.

I could go on all day, but I'm sure you get the point.

[Junkhead23]

It seems to SWIM that over there SWIY can get much better opiates such as Fentanyl and also benzos easier? Just seemed funny to pick on codeine one of the weakest opiates

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by Junkhead23

It seems to SWIM that over there SWIY can get much better opiates such as Fentanyl and also benzos easier? Just seemed funny to pick on codeine one of the weakest opiates

Yeah you can get lots of kinds of opiates from a prescription, but nothing is OTC except for acetaminophen which of course we all know causes more deaths....it seems like the docs over here will only prescribe hydrocodone (for example: for broken arm, wisdom teeth, post surgery, etc).....to get real good stuff like fentanyl and oxy's now, one must be in chronic pain or have cancer in order to get it

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by Junkhead23

It seems to SWIM that over there SWIY can get much better opiates such as Fentanyl and also benzos easier? Just seemed funny to pick on codeine one of the weakest opiates

Fentanyl is available but it's not easy to get. H is a million times easier to find. Well, that probably depends where you live. In small towns or rural areas where H is more rare, maybe that's what they do, eating their grandma's patches and shit.

Benzos I'd have to say are easy to get. For a $50 consultation fee, it's not hard to find someone who will send you out the door 10 minutes later with a xanax script.

Yeah it's really stupid that they won't even let people get one of the lamest opiates OTC. You can load your pickup truck full of beer and hard liquor, but can't have a stupid little pussy painkiller. Our "moral" laws are ridiculously stupid here. But just when I think we have the stupidest laws in the world, I remember that people in the UK are videotaped 24/7 in public and shit, and I forgive my country a little.