Effects - Swim wishes for some advice...

[imsobored]

So- my friend, let's call him X, is looking to purchase some LSD, and has found what seems to be, a likely way to get it. X wants me to state some background information first, though.

X has no experience with phsycadellics. He has used marijuana, various opiates, as well as his new recreational favorite, methlphenidate. He has expiremented with some rather... Odd drugs to see if they were indeed phsycoactive such as nutmeg.

X has a strong mingset, in his eyes, and has been told by an experienced and well trusted friend experienced in the use of phsycoactive moreso then he, that it appeared to the friend that x was entirely ready for a phsycadellic experience if x felt that he could handle it.

X knows that LSD is not a drug to mess around with. He seeks the revered "mind-opening" powers that LSD posesses. X wants to gain perspective in which only things like LSD can accomplish. Which leads me to x's first question for all of you.

X wants to know the best way to accomplish a spiritual or largely philosophical experience. From x's research, it seems mainly hit or miss. X would like and greatly appreciate any knowledge of how he or his trip sitter(his best friend for longer than he can remember) can push his experience in said direction.

Also, since x isn't a flat out junkie and has his priorities staight, he cannot spare incredibly large sums of money for LSD, and will this be purchasing around 2 hits, since it's his first time. He wants to know if it would be irrisponsible of him to take 2 hits his first time in search of a more pround and intense experience.

All (intelligent) responses are more than appreciated.

[dutch-marshal]

for "imsobored" it would be a big mistake to take 2 hits for the first time..
SWIYS mind will have allot of information to process..
SWIM allways thinks lsd isnt tis a powerfull spychedelic, and don't forget the trip lasts several hours.. so stick with one for the first time!

and if SWIY wants a "meaningfull" trip not just for fun as stated above, SWIY should think about the things about SWIY self or SWIYS direct family/friends and how he can improve life in whole!

also read some trip reports on "erwoid experience vault" or here on D-F offcourse.. it will give you more perspective about the trip to and how to cotrol it a little bit

SWIm hoped it helpes a bit... this is everything SWIM could think of

so have fun and be carefull!

[Wierd Logic]

Whenever Monkey has been with first-timers on one tab they have enjoyed it, but always wanted to trip more..

[imsobored]

ok- so two things to say-

X has decided that he probably wont buy from the person. he says that the dealer has tried to tell him that 1 hit wint do anything. granted- X does not believe him, so that took away from his credibility, as well as makes X wonder if he would actually be getting LSD, or if it is something else. also, X says he is charging(cant post price, i know ) more than 1 hit would usually cost, so again, he questions the persons credibility AND if maybe, again, if he is actually getting LSD.

so- that being said, he will probably be researching alternate substances that a reliable person has said he has access too.

X would like me to say both LSD and "magic" mushrooms are a bit of a long shot. he said DXM("triple stacks" or "triple C's," as his reliable source refers to them) was a likely option. he would like to know any further possible alternates that may induce similar experiences as he was looking for. of course, any questions of those substances will be posted in the appropriate forum.

Originally Posted by Wierd Logic

Whenever Monkey has been with first-timers on one tab they have enjoyed it, but always wanted to trip more..

also, out of curiosity, X wants to know if you are saying he should/should not take 1 hit(in the event he IS able to get some from a reliable source).

[chillinwill]

Do NOT do triple C's....coricidin is very dangerous as it contains many other active ingredients than just the DXM....If someone that isn't you is going to do DXM, use only DXM containing products. More information can be found by using the forum search engine on this

[cra$h]

a simple pointer to find the purity is the less bitter, the better. Even ask the dealer, or when he's there ask if swiy can just tap your tounge against it, since it takes a while for the lsd to abosrb anyways. As for dose, take one, and if you got the time, have a second one just in case, but don't take that until after a couple hours. Acid should kick in in about 45 min. on average, and if it's taking hours to kick in, it's probably a DO* compound. But honestly, swim would take one hit for the first time, and not even bother dosing again or anything.

[humdroid]

Originally Posted by imsobored

So- my friend, let's call him X, is looking to purchase some LSD, and has found what seems to be, a likely way to get it. X wants me to state some background information first, though.

Dose is micrograms. Psychedelic stimulant. Perceptual changes like visuals. Everything looks nicer. Music sounds better. Thoughts are enhanced and more creative, lucid.

X has no experience with phsycadellics. He has used marijuana, various opiates, as well as his new recreational favorite, methlphenidate. He has expiremented with some rather... Odd drugs to see if they were indeed phsycoactive such as nutmeg.

Y liked mj and has had lsd like experiences off sativa strains. Allbeit shorter. LSD makes everything seem hilarious.
Its a tiny cardboard tab, and it feels light, it makes E's seem like clog hoppers.

X has a strong mingset, in his eyes, and has been told by an experienced and well trusted friend experienced in the use of phsycoactive moreso then he, that it appeared to the friend that x was entirely ready for a phsycadellic experience if x felt that he could handle it.

Y never tried acid until after forty, but when they did, Y did it carefully and loved it.

X knows that LSD is not a drug to mess around with. He seeks the revered "mind-opening" powers that LSD posesses. X wants to gain perspective in which only things like LSD can accomplish. Which leads me to x's first question for all of you.

X wants to know the best way to accomplish a spiritual or largely philosophical experience. From x's research, it seems mainly hit or miss. X would like and greatly appreciate any knowledge of how he or his trip sitter(his best friend for longer than he can remember) can push his experience in said direction.

Y gets starry experiences off pills or weed. With acid, Y 'was shown' how to draw more slowly and fliudly. It wasnt so much the art, but the way the hand was relaxed and the focus on not rushing. Y never got a spiritual experience on it, but could easily have done. Y tries to let the drug lead them, and show places of their mind.

Also, since x isn't a flat out junkie and has his priorities staight, he cannot spare incredibly large sums of money for LSD, and will this be purchasing around 2 hits, since it's his first time. He wants to know if it would be irrisponsible of him to take 2 hits his first time in search of a more pround and intense experience.

Y started with half, and shied away from taking a hardcore dose in casae it was too much. Y works up with trippys, but some may find the like diving in the deeep end.
Others who take big doses of one psych may not handle another type well.
All (intelligent) responses are more than appreciated.[/quote]

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Good post.

[purplehaze]

It would be wise to start here.

[Frond]

Do NOT use triple-c's. If SWIY intends to use DXM, he should use a product that contains only DXM and nothing else. The penalty for messing around with the wrong DXM preparation could be as simple as nausea, and can easily be as much as death from liver failure.

In general, while Sir Tokesalot has used DXM successfully in the past, he wouldn't recommend it as a starter psychoactive to anyone. Its easy availability is a very misleading representation of its power, and of its possible dangers.

If SWIY does find LSD, he should start slow. He shouldn't measure dosage in "hits" since a single "hit" can contain anything from 50ug to 500ug, and two hits could be a mild trip, or it could blow SWIY into outer space.

SWIY shouldn't get into any kind of psychedelic experience, especially one with LSD, with any kind of expectations. Psychedelic experiences vary a lot from one time to the next, and expecting something from it could lead to trouble when the experience goes in a different direction. The best bet is to be completely free for the next 24-36 hours, be in a safe environment with some sober ground control, and then relax into the experience and let whatever happens happen. Fighting it, or trying to steer it into some kind of direction without knowing what it's like firsthand is a recipe for disaster.

LSD is quite manageable in the 200ug range, but of course for SWIY things could be different. Ego death and the like doesn't generally happen until 500mics or so, but when it does, it is a very intense experience. It can be frightening or blissful, depending entirely on how SWIY deals with it.

Possible legally-available alternatives to LSD would be Ayahuasca, which is very much not recommended as a first-time psychedelic (LSD is a Tonka toy next to Ayahuasca's 18 wheeler, and SWIY can easily kill himself with MAOI/RIMA interaction problems), or San Pedro/Peruvian Torch cacti, which, if properly prepared, will probably work brilliantly.