Effects - Any herbal highs with effects like Cocaine?

[obSXENE]

Are there any herbal highs out there that give you the same or similier effects as Cocaine???

[KomodoMK]

This question has been asked countless times - use the forum search engine and find the other threads.

The answer is basically no. No herbal highs have been found that come remotely close. As for research chemicals (which are in a legal grey area in some country's due to analogue laws) there is possibly one, although it is very debatable:

3-(p-Fluorobenzoyl)tropane, more commonly referred to as 4-fluorotropacocaine.

3-(p-Fluorobenzoyl)tropane, (4-fluorotropacocaine, 3-pseudotropyl-4-fluorobenzoate) is a tropane derivative drug which acts as a stimulant and local anaesthetic, having around 30% the stimulant potency of cocaine but around the same potency as a local anaesthetic.[citation needed] It has been investigated as a potential radiolabelled agent for studying receptor binding,[1] and as a potential neuroleptic drug,[2] but was not adopted for either of these applications.

I would suggest researching this if you intend to pursue it, would be wise to read these 2 threads:

The truth about FTC - http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66216
Drug Info - FTC - http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65149

[fiveleggedrat]

As stated in previous threads, OP, there are NO COCAINE SUBSTITUTES that are worth mentioning even.

4-fluorotropacocaines not like cocaine, according to a few threads we have here.

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

4-fluorotropacocaines not like cocaine, according to a few threads we have here.

I find very conflicting reports on this, both here and else where. However, little fishy has no experience on which to comment himself. It would be worth a shot, as chemicals affect everyone differently. Just look at how many reports of MDMA like compounds there are out there - none of which little fishy thinks come even close...

[fiveleggedrat]

Compounds similar to MDMA and compounds similar to cocaine are two different things, chemically speaking, IMO.

Swim decided it was not worth attempting to get any after the difficulties involved and so many negative reports on it. There is nothing that really approaches cocaine, and Swim has looked hard in the amphetamine family, as well as elsewhere.

Only found things stronger than cocaine, sadly, too strong to do and relax, like meth derivatives.'

Swiy is going in the right direction though, +1 to Swiy for mentioning that =]!

[Mint boi]

Herbal highs section, please keep discussion herbal.

[joe]

a herbal powder called "charge" it a little like it

[Alfa]

Please add a new thread for Charge.

[Mint boi]

Thread for charge is in the research chemical section already. No chance its hearbal, my guess is its mephedrone, or something in the -caine family.

[PsychoActivist]

SWIM has found that the only thing that comes even close is the initial feeling he gets from Kratom (Mostly in the lower dose range). I have also heard other people to compare the stimulant effect of Kratom to a LOW dose of Cocaine.