Dose - Large dose of Molly?

[raid517]

Hi, from people who know (not just half baked weekend pill poppers), what would be the outcome of taking a fairly large dose of Molly? (I mean pure crystal MDMA).

I ask as although my friend SWIM is not a very regular user (about once every month or two) he did kind of 'loose the magic' after the second time he took MDMA. (About 18 months ago).

However he has quite a big event coming up - at which he would like to get as fucked off his face as possible - and he was wondering what the largest safe dose he could take might be, so that he could see if it might be possible to get some of that old magic back?

He is aware of the law of diminishing returns with MDMA - however he wonder if a dose was sufficiently large enough - surely it would have some kind of additional effect or other (other than the potential for overdose/death etc. - which naturally SWIM is keen to avoid).

Of course SWIM is aware of the kind of precautions he should take (although reminding him of these might prove reassuring), but he is interested in what the maximum safe dosage for an experienced adult male might be?

[fnord]

Erowid lists 200+mg as a high dose with increase in side effects, but ive heard of people doseing half grams,i have no idea if this is safe but seeing as the expected ld50 of mdma is quite high so grandma would assume so if one is healthy and has no heart problems.

[Pietttaimf]

Swim just found information on the max. dose of mdma for a male adult which is 1.5mg/kg (body weight) for women 1.3mg/kg (without mdma tolerance)

body weight MDMA
50 Kg 75 mg
60 Kg 90 mg
70 Kg 105 mg
80 Kg 120 mg
90 Kg 135 mg
100 Kg 150 mg

(source: drugscouts.de)

[KomodoMK]

Depends on what you think a large dose is? Most people reports the best effects from 110-125mg range, so a large dose would be around 250mg. A dose that size appears to severely increase anxiety and/or cause panic attacks and dysphoria. My little fishy has had no trouble with these higher dosages though.

Really it's all about knowing your mind and body, if you have to question yourself or are seriously unsure about it then the best advice is no - don't do it. Start low and dose up slowly, you can always up the dose, never reduce.

KomodoMK added 2 Minutes and 3 Seconds later...

LD50 (mice) 97 mg/kg i.p.
LD50 (rats) 49 mg/kg i.p.
LD50 (guinea pigs) 98 mg/kg i.p.

[jabbie]

250mg os not a large dose, I was dropping around 1/2 a gram and maybe sniffing 150/200mg on a night out! I will say one thing, i worked myself up over many years starting with a 100mg dose. You should not just fly into a large dose. i have a large mdma tolerance.

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[KomodoMK]

A 250mg is a fairly large single dose... and I get the impression that's what the original poster is talking about.

Little fishy did almost 1.5g over a fairly small time period once and his eyes rolled back in his head and people could only see the white. They found it quite worrying but little fishy felt fine, best night of his life in fact, wish he could loop it over and over. However, it was stupid and dangerous. Certainly no recommended.

[Aar0n]

SWIM knows several people who do half a gram of MDMA every now and again. A couple of weeks ago these people did half a gram of MDMA each dropping at about 11:30pm and continued to feel the effects until 7am.

SWIM has done a half gram in a night - but only in 100-150mg bombs, whereas some of SWIMs friends do 250mg bombs or lines (A waste in SWIMs opinion).

[doppey]

MDMA peaks pretty quick so you could try taking about 150mg or so and seeing how it peaks. If you dont get where you wanna be after an hour and a bit dose higher.

[chaos69]

read the regaining the magic thread. it might not help you sfor the big event but it could help for future events

[WhiteIsland]

Swim is not an extremely experienced used (20+ times) a few weeks back he sniffed about 650mg in one go. Felt incredibly well already after 5-6 minutes, but in all hounesty not that much better than doing a normal dose. It lasted quite a lot longer which was a bit suprising.

However, he looked like compete shit according to others there, to the point is was a bit imbarresing thinking back. Also the brain had definately taken some pain and a lot more than for example 6 good pills over a long night.
Pretty standard things such as work was impossible to work out. Also, first time ever, after having the same code for years swim could not remember his pincode for love nor cash....

Swim regrets doing this and would never do it again.

[Panthers007]

Originally Posted by WhiteIsland

Swim regrets doing this and would never do it again.

That's good. 650mg is an overdose and is likely to cause toxic effects. It's doing things like this that get MDMA into newspapers. And not in a positive light.

[Frond]

When the magic stops, the best move is to take a break, and not to take even more drugs to try and get the magic back. It is, of course, possible to take something else for a different experience, but Sir Tokesalot has found that if you take an amazing experience and attempt to milk it for all it's worth, it stops being amazing and becomes routine.

Some things are best left mysterious. Don't demystify the magical, and don't suck all life out of it for no better reason than "well it was really great the first time!"

The highest dose of pure MDMA ever consumed around Sir Tokesalot in a single sitting has been 1 gram. Our brave knight doesn't have a fondness for said chemical, but one of his fellow warriors did (especially in combination with K).

It took some doing to get all of that gunk down the sniffer, and this noble warrior sounded a lot like a vacuum cleaner for the better part of an hour. Then, he got up, somehow, and with a grunt of "yeah... we're messy" went off to dance for 5 consecutive hours.

In the morning, he found that he chewed off 10% of his tongue and severely skinned his feet. His sandals changed color for rather obvious reasons, and it was rather clear where, on the dance floor, he had been. He was severely mentally drained and shuffled around like a zombie for the first half of the day (where's a necromancer when you need one?). He doesn't remember drinking much, and how he survived the exertion and dehydration is anyone's guess.

I should say that said noble warrior is a very strange man. The Good Knight has never seen anyone consume such heroic (or perhaps "idiotic" is a better term) quantities of chemicals with such an alarming regularity and still be able to function in society, and rather well at that.

Don't try this at home, kids. Or anywhere else for that matter. Because the kids in the papers probably though that it was a good idea at the time, too.

[max dude ya]

250mg is about 1 doublestacked pill if swiys dealer/manufacturer knows what he/she is doing. that being said, a gram isn't life threatening, especially if its spaced out. but nobody quote me on that if someone ods on a gram, i just doubt it would happen.

[tinytom]

swim and his buddies used to do 400-500mg a time but swim was going through 2.5g in 2 days.